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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 09:27 - Jun 7 by jackrmee
No mate, it hasn’t always been like that. Hamas weren’t even around until the 80s and never killed a civilian until 1994. Israel have been doing so since 1948.
Who was before Hamas, Have you ever heard of the PLO? and Hamas brutally put down Fatah to gain control of Gaza, ordinary Palestinians aren't backing Hamas they are ruled by fear
You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 11:13 - Jun 7 by raynor94
Who was before Hamas, Have you ever heard of the PLO? and Hamas brutally put down Fatah to gain control of Gaza, ordinary Palestinians aren't backing Hamas they are ruled by fear
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 11:22 - Jun 7 by jackrmee
No they were voted in democratically.
In which case the Palestinians are reaping the sour harvest They voted to obliterate Israel in doing so Now, what to do about Israel I read about not wanting to invade them or to wipe them out of the area BUT they are going nowhere
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 11:28 - Jun 7 by onehunglow
In which case the Palestinians are reaping the sour harvest They voted to obliterate Israel in doing so Now, what to do about Israel I read about not wanting to invade them or to wipe them out of the area BUT they are going nowhere
No they didn’t vote for that.
And no, they don’t need to go anywhere, just stop being pricks basically.simple.
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 11:28 - Jun 7 by onehunglow
In which case the Palestinians are reaping the sour harvest They voted to obliterate Israel in doing so Now, what to do about Israel I read about not wanting to invade them or to wipe them out of the area BUT they are going nowhere
Hamas is a legit organisation. yes, they have an armed wing just like any govt
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 12:55 - Jun 7 with 701 views
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:03 - Jun 7 by raynor94
Give it a rest, they are a Terrorist organisation, regonized by all governments throughout the World
Israel has just been condemned by the International court. They have also had more UN judgments against them than all the world put together. Tell me, who are the terrorists here?
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:18 - Jun 7 with 690 views
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 09:42 - Jun 7 by jackrmee
Wow. And also with respect…this is not about religion. Not from the Muslim side. Yes the Jews believe it’s their god given right to the land. But the Muslims aren’t saying anything about Allah , but simply that we were living here and it’s our land, which is fair.
No I don’t advocate wiping out Israel. I do advocate armed resistance and I would fight myself for Hamas if I could and if they went back to pre 1994 methods of only targeting military targets.
Israel doesn’t have to go away. They have to stop the occupation of Palestinian land, stop extending settlements and agree to let the Palestinian people be free in their own land. That’s all.
Hamas (which also is an Arabic word meaning “zeal”) was established by members of the Muslim Brotherhood and religious factions of the PLO, and the new organization quickly acquired a broad following. In its 1988 charter, Hamas maintained that Palestine is an Islamic homeland that can never be surrendered to non-Muslims and that waging holy war to wrest control of Palestine from Israel is a religious duty for Palestinian Muslims.
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 20:12 - Jun 7 with 612 views
Hamas (which also is an Arabic word meaning “zeal”) was established by members of the Muslim Brotherhood and religious factions of the PLO, and the new organization quickly acquired a broad following. In its 1988 charter, Hamas maintained that Palestine is an Islamic homeland that can never be surrendered to non-Muslims and that waging holy war to wrest control of Palestine from Israel is a religious duty for Palestinian Muslims.
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 09:33 - Jun 7 by onehunglow
Morning. With respect,this has and goes back to Biblical times and how the land is promised to Jews by God. The Muslim God version and his prophet Mohammed ensures that the dispute lives today. The three main Islam version can’t agree with pin themselves as to how Gods laws are passed down and how adherents are to live . . Now, do you advocate a war against Israel,where the country is virtually wiped out as Hamas and many others want. Few have the guts to admit this. Israel is not going away willingly,so what is to done with them if they won’t move. And they won’t,and they won’t as they are doing what their God told them . It’s all in the Bible or Quran
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Do you know before 1948 the last time that a state called Israel existed? Try 800BC.
You, an atheist (along with the majority on this thread being atheists) bang on about how God gave the land to Abraham, then Moses et all (whose words you don’t believe in).
And to correct you, the land was assumed by the Christians after the final expulsion of the Jews after the destruction of the second temple. Christianity is the fulfillment of Mosaic law as instituted by Jesus Christ and the abolition thereof of the Leviticsl priesthood in favor of the Liturgical temple worship carried into the Church by the Apostles by Christ’s command.Islam is a made up religion (surprised you now haven’t I) which plagiarizes Jewish and Christian apocryphal writings .
It might interest you to know that the founder of the modern state of Israel was a man named Theodore Herzl - an Austrian atheistic “cultural Jew”.
The modern religion of Talmudic Judaism is one to two hundred years younger than Orthodox Christianity and bears little resemblance to the faith of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christianity were the continuation of Mosaic Judaism but as Isaiah prophesied was taken to the gentiles. Talmudic Judaism (which modern Jews adhere to bears no relation to Mosaic Judaism and could be termed as a reactionary faith specifically invented to combat Christianity .
Even with that in mind, and pretending they are a religious sect the modern Israelis have broken EVERY commandment they pay lip service to - it is the epitome of hypocrisy to suggest they are in any way related to the faith of those patriarchs.
Which kind of negates their claim of Patriarchal inheritance over the land which they’d been expelled from three times now. If you are going to use the God angle at least get some understanding about Abrahamic religion before commenting.
To answer your earlier question I wouldn’t want to see anyone killed ,Israeli or Palestinian.
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 23:14 - Jun 7 with 562 views
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 21:43 - Jun 7 by sons_of_omri
Do you know before 1948 the last time that a state called Israel existed? Try 800BC.
You, an atheist (along with the majority on this thread being atheists) bang on about how God gave the land to Abraham, then Moses et all (whose words you don’t believe in).
And to correct you, the land was assumed by the Christians after the final expulsion of the Jews after the destruction of the second temple. Christianity is the fulfillment of Mosaic law as instituted by Jesus Christ and the abolition thereof of the Leviticsl priesthood in favor of the Liturgical temple worship carried into the Church by the Apostles by Christ’s command.Islam is a made up religion (surprised you now haven’t I) which plagiarizes Jewish and Christian apocryphal writings .
It might interest you to know that the founder of the modern state of Israel was a man named Theodore Herzl - an Austrian atheistic “cultural Jew”.
The modern religion of Talmudic Judaism is one to two hundred years younger than Orthodox Christianity and bears little resemblance to the faith of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christianity were the continuation of Mosaic Judaism but as Isaiah prophesied was taken to the gentiles. Talmudic Judaism (which modern Jews adhere to bears no relation to Mosaic Judaism and could be termed as a reactionary faith specifically invented to combat Christianity .
Even with that in mind, and pretending they are a religious sect the modern Israelis have broken EVERY commandment they pay lip service to - it is the epitome of hypocrisy to suggest they are in any way related to the faith of those patriarchs.
Which kind of negates their claim of Patriarchal inheritance over the land which they’d been expelled from three times now. If you are going to use the God angle at least get some understanding about Abrahamic religion before commenting.
To answer your earlier question I wouldn’t want to see anyone killed ,Israeli or Palestinian.
I ll make it more succinct than that Try Genesis The book not the band of posh , public school oiks which you loathe
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:29 - Jun 7 by raynor94
So you actually support Hamas?
I’ve already said, if they stopped their targeting of civilians and went back to how they used to work, yes. I don’t agree that they wanted to wipe out Israel. Maybe they do now, if the quotes are true.
But I still maintain, Israel are way worse than Hamas.
Just found out that Israel is the grape capital of the Middle East. Yes, Israel. And they allow pedos from US and around the world to move there, to continue their crimes against Palestinians.
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 21:43 - Jun 7 by sons_of_omri
Do you know before 1948 the last time that a state called Israel existed? Try 800BC.
You, an atheist (along with the majority on this thread being atheists) bang on about how God gave the land to Abraham, then Moses et all (whose words you don’t believe in).
And to correct you, the land was assumed by the Christians after the final expulsion of the Jews after the destruction of the second temple. Christianity is the fulfillment of Mosaic law as instituted by Jesus Christ and the abolition thereof of the Leviticsl priesthood in favor of the Liturgical temple worship carried into the Church by the Apostles by Christ’s command.Islam is a made up religion (surprised you now haven’t I) which plagiarizes Jewish and Christian apocryphal writings .
It might interest you to know that the founder of the modern state of Israel was a man named Theodore Herzl - an Austrian atheistic “cultural Jew”.
The modern religion of Talmudic Judaism is one to two hundred years younger than Orthodox Christianity and bears little resemblance to the faith of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christianity were the continuation of Mosaic Judaism but as Isaiah prophesied was taken to the gentiles. Talmudic Judaism (which modern Jews adhere to bears no relation to Mosaic Judaism and could be termed as a reactionary faith specifically invented to combat Christianity .
Even with that in mind, and pretending they are a religious sect the modern Israelis have broken EVERY commandment they pay lip service to - it is the epitome of hypocrisy to suggest they are in any way related to the faith of those patriarchs.
Which kind of negates their claim of Patriarchal inheritance over the land which they’d been expelled from three times now. If you are going to use the God angle at least get some understanding about Abrahamic religion before commenting.
To answer your earlier question I wouldn’t want to see anyone killed ,Israeli or Palestinian.
How do you know exactly who are atheists on here?That post is interesting if not 100% accurate.
Herzl proposed the idea of Israel, he didn't found it, that was more or less the UN general assembly after they voted to initiate the partition of Palestine. The Arabs rejected the idea then as now.
ALL religions are made up. Christianity itself didn't exist until the first century and was, back then, a sect of the Jewish religion. Jesus' followers were "apocalyptic" Jews.
PS, I like the irony of your username as you argue against Israel. Are you of Issachar?
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Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 13:53 - Jun 8 with 442 views
How do you know exactly who are atheists on here?That post is interesting if not 100% accurate.
Herzl proposed the idea of Israel, he didn't found it, that was more or less the UN general assembly after they voted to initiate the partition of Palestine. The Arabs rejected the idea then as now.
ALL religions are made up. Christianity itself didn't exist until the first century and was, back then, a sect of the Jewish religion. Jesus' followers were "apocalyptic" Jews.
PS, I like the irony of your username as you argue against Israel. Are you of Issachar?
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Every religious adgreht believes his is right . Omri should speak to a Mormon or a JW as they are models of fanaticism that kills lives twice
Israel/Hamas ceasefire on 07:17 - Jun 8 by jackrmee
I’ve already said, if they stopped their targeting of civilians and went back to how they used to work, yes. I don’t agree that they wanted to wipe out Israel. Maybe they do now, if the quotes are true.
But I still maintain, Israel are way worse than Hamas.
Just found out that Israel is the grape capital of the Middle East. Yes, Israel. And they allow pedos from US and around the world to move there, to continue their crimes against Palestinians.
Good to see the IDF found and rescued 4 hostages taken by Hamas last October.
Hamas complaing that civilians were killed on the rescue operation. Rather ironic that civilians were killed by forces trying to rescue civilians held hostage by terrorist.
If only Hamas terrorists had not attacked Israel and taken civilians hostages then there would be no conflict and thousands of lives would have not been lost.
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