| ssn ...olly gone from palace 17:20 - Oct 23 with 6567 views | themodfather |
seems he is leaving palace..not sure if "mutual!?? |  | | |  |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 20:44 - Oct 23 with 2050 views | rsonist |
Bless him, but the longer Ollie's career goes on the more credit you have to give to Kenny Jackett and Mel Johnson. He was lucky to get Palace up in the first place IMO and his work in the transfer market since has been shambolic. And while people will claim Blackpool never had a chance of staying up in their season in the Prem Ollie's tactics were suicidal for the most part.
He seems so crabby and negative these days compared to how he was with us. |  | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 20:53 - Oct 23 with 2030 views | kensalriser |
Why are people so convinced that Redknapp wants out at the first opportunity? He's got a great gig right now - backed by the board and an excellent chance of promotion. Why would he swap that for another relegation scrap.
Palace are mental, by the way. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 21:24 - Oct 23 with 1957 views | cjc |
Jesus, what a contrast between Olly and Hughes.
Class act. Both he and the board have made mistakes aka QPR and he has held his hands up and left. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 22:09 - Oct 23 with 1907 views | DylanP |
Olly came in with a third of the season to go. Nobody can turn a club around in that time. It just isn't possible. Managers need time to build raport with the players, get them playing to his philosophy, etc. He did fine that season and after that he did a lot better than just fine. He brought joy back to Loftus Road in our very darkest moment.
Having said that, I didn't view the earlier posts as blaming Olly, just stating the fact that our relegation is on his resume. That is obviously true as he was in charge when we were actually relegated.
It is a shame for him but it does appear that his level is just one step down from the Prem. He has enough in his tank to get a team promoted, but not enough to keep them there. I always want good things for Olly after what he did for us. But you don't always get what you want, right? |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 22:23 - Oct 23 with 1882 views | Stanisgod |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 22:09 - Oct 23 by DylanP |
Olly came in with a third of the season to go. Nobody can turn a club around in that time. It just isn't possible. Managers need time to build raport with the players, get them playing to his philosophy, etc. He did fine that season and after that he did a lot better than just fine. He brought joy back to Loftus Road in our very darkest moment.
Having said that, I didn't view the earlier posts as blaming Olly, just stating the fact that our relegation is on his resume. That is obviously true as he was in charge when we were actually relegated.
It is a shame for him but it does appear that his level is just one step down from the Prem. He has enough in his tank to get a team promoted, but not enough to keep them there. I always want good things for Olly after what he did for us. But you don't always get what you want, right? |
Good post. People have very short memories. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 23:44 - Oct 23 with 1818 views | daveB |
the interview with him and Steve Parish on Sky was heartbreaking. Basically the media circus including articles slating him for taking his wife to games along with the attitude of the experienced prem players he has signed (sound familiar) has broken him and he felt it was best for the club if he walked now and gave them a chance.
A horrible but very honest interview well worth watching and shows what pricks we have playing at the highest level.
He's become a very good manager over the years, he just fell for the same trick as Warnock thinking he needed premier league players when he went up, he'd have been better off giving it a go with what he had. I hope he re charges the batteries and comes back to enjoy his career again |  | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 00:18 - Oct 24 with 1792 views | smegma |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 18:57 - Oct 23 by Antti_Heinola |
I think people are getting their knickers in a twist. No one is blaming Olly for that relegation. We certainly weren't playing 'pretty well', however - just slightly better than in that Wimbledon game, which is not hard. Olly got 8 points from 13 games and I think even he would say he could have done better than that.
and of course he did a good job after that.
But, the point was he has that relegation on his CV. That was the point being made. It's not an attack on Olly. |
Have you got a split personality AND a bad memory ??
"That was the worst QPR team I've ever seen, but it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that he could have saved us". | | | |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 05:42 - Oct 24 with 1731 views | qprcanadabc |
when you read his comments, he made exactly the same mistakes we did - in terms of not taking into account team spirit as a large component into making a successful team. |  | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 07:58 - Oct 24 with 1635 views | BerkoRanger |
Holloway "We changed too much too quickly"
That sounds familiar...... | | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 07:59 - Oct 24 with 1635 views | ElHoop |
They were a bit lucky to go up and then they lost their best player and have had a few injuries. It's no surprise that they're struggling when the players that they have brought in have been pretty poor too.
We did it, we bought what we could get rather than what we needed, but what do you do? It's a lot easier to criticise someone else than to do this particular job yourself. |  | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 08:51 - Oct 24 with 1589 views | simmo |
You bring in too many new 'better' players and make too many changes too quickly, you run the risk of losing the spirit you created to get promoted. That spirit will carry you a long way, even against 'superior' opposition. Somebody like Olly would rely as much on spirit in the camp as any level of technical ability.
A shame but at least he is man enough to realise and walk away before more damage is done rather than continue to feed fans bullshit and wait until you have secured the worst start in history. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 09:04 - Oct 24 with 1586 views | padstow |
He's looking drained and tired. Perhaps he needs to drop management for a bit and get back to a bit of coaching and bolstering team morale?
Now, I wonder if there's a team out there in a division he knows well that might be looking for a short term replacement for a recently departed first team coach where team spirit is key....
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 09:06 - Oct 24 with 1575 views | simmo |
Pulis looks firm favourite. I wouldnt wish that on anybody. | |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 10:23 - Oct 24 with 1406 views | HollowayRanger |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 20:44 - Oct 23 by rsonist |
Bless him, but the longer Ollie's career goes on the more credit you have to give to Kenny Jackett and Mel Johnson. He was lucky to get Palace up in the first place IMO and his work in the transfer market since has been shambolic. And while people will claim Blackpool never had a chance of staying up in their season in the Prem Ollie's tactics were suicidal for the most part.
He seems so crabby and negative these days compared to how he was with us. |
blackpool were doing fine till they lost dj just after christmas
the QPR team holloway took down was a disgrace he had no money to change things but got in bignut and thompson
the following season he had 7 players only left at club two of which were keepers and two langley carlise still injured he totally rebuilt the team on freebies forbes padula day parmer ben aska ect brought back gallen and then likes of ainsworth rowland cookie bircham
guy did a brilliant job for us
just watch the bbc doc they did in 2004 about holloways stress levels it tells you all you need to know about how much he cared |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 10:31 - Oct 24 with 1407 views | newgolddream |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 17:57 - Oct 23 by Northernr |
L Harper, T Breacker, J Darlington, M Perry, S Morrow (P Crouch, 67), M Rose, C Carlisle, R Langley, K Connolly yellow card (P Bruce, 77), S Koejoe, C Kiwomya
Subs not used: K Rowland, L Miklosko, C Plummer
Never mind keep them up, if this as boxing that fight would never have taken place. |
Was that the team in Huddersfield??? |  | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 10:54 - Oct 24 with 1385 views | Antti_Heinola |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 23:44 - Oct 23 by daveB |
the interview with him and Steve Parish on Sky was heartbreaking. Basically the media circus including articles slating him for taking his wife to games along with the attitude of the experienced prem players he has signed (sound familiar) has broken him and he felt it was best for the club if he walked now and gave them a chance.
A horrible but very honest interview well worth watching and shows what pricks we have playing at the highest level.
He's become a very good manager over the years, he just fell for the same trick as Warnock thinking he needed premier league players when he went up, he'd have been better off giving it a go with what he had. I hope he re charges the batteries and comes back to enjoy his career again |
Well Warnock didn't buy too many players, and actually had very little choice due to the takeover. In fact, Ferdinand did pretty well for the first 3 months, as did Traore. Barton started slowly, and SWP was, people forget, really very good for the first couple of months. We were on a par with about what Hull are doing now. Unfortunately, things did start to go wrong. I think what Olly did this summer was more comparable, on a smaller scale, to what Hughes did.
We'll have to agree to disagree on Olly being a 'very good' manager. Decent I'd give you. But that's it. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 11:03 - Oct 24 with 1377 views | Antti_Heinola |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 00:18 - Oct 24 by smegma |
Have you got a split personality AND a bad memory ??
"That was the worst QPR team I've ever seen, but it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that he could have saved us". |
I know that sounds contradictory, but as I said in that post, it's not like we were dead and buried:
'(he) Had 13 games. We won one of them. We had 35 points when he took over, so needed 5 wins in 13, or 4 wins and 2 or 3 draws.'
I think 14 points from 13 games would have kept us up. Now, regardless of how bad a team is, I think most managers would back themselves to get those points if they're worth their salt. Now it's absolutely not his fault we went down and the rebuilding job he did was tremendous. no one is saying it wasn't, but certainly survival was possible when he came, regardless of how poor we were.
But before he came, and even after, that was the worst QPR team I have ever seen in nearly 30 years as an ST holder. Can you think of a worse one? Last season's was bad, but it had some ability. That season there was no ability and a terrible attitude. The worst performance also came under Ollie with the Vauxhall Motors debacle (although the 0-5 reverse at Wimbledon comes a close second), although again I give him enormous credit for picking himself and the team up from that.
And I was one of Ollie's biggest backers on message boards. I stuck with him pretty much until the end, arguing furiously with people who wanted him fired for years. But he's not a God. Warnock, IMO, was a far superior manager for us, for example.
And it seems even Ollie agrees with some of us on here - he's not a PL manager. | |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 11:45 - Oct 24 with 1358 views | toboboly |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 18:00 - Oct 23 by CamberleyR |
This.
Massively unfair to pin the 2000/01 relegation on him. That relegation had Gerry Francis's name all over it. |
Those were the odds on us staying up. Christ people are picky. He was on a hiding to nothing that first season, and the season he took Blackpool up (favourites for relegation I seem to remember) and now a crappy Palace squad he got up have not done very well and people are slating him? He hadn't spunked as much as Hughes and 'Arry did. |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 12:27 - Oct 24 with 1338 views | Antti_Heinola |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 11:45 - Oct 24 by toboboly |
Those were the odds on us staying up. Christ people are picky. He was on a hiding to nothing that first season, and the season he took Blackpool up (favourites for relegation I seem to remember) and now a crappy Palace squad he got up have not done very well and people are slating him? He hadn't spunked as much as Hughes and 'Arry did. |
who's slated him on here? Who? | |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 12:36 - Oct 24 with 1332 views | dolcelatte |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 11:45 - Oct 24 by toboboly |
Those were the odds on us staying up. Christ people are picky. He was on a hiding to nothing that first season, and the season he took Blackpool up (favourites for relegation I seem to remember) and now a crappy Palace squad he got up have not done very well and people are slating him? He hadn't spunked as much as Hughes and 'Arry did. |
Well the crappy Palace squad were doing pretty well before he joined them and given the volume of players they signed using the Zaha money then overall he did spunk up as much if not more than Hughes(maybe not on wages but defo on fees) - 'Arry got back what he spent in the window or at least will have done by the time Remy signs for Newcastle in the window.
Just being picky like.... |  |
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| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 12:41 - Oct 24 with 1327 views | daveB |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 12:36 - Oct 24 by dolcelatte |
Well the crappy Palace squad were doing pretty well before he joined them and given the volume of players they signed using the Zaha money then overall he did spunk up as much if not more than Hughes(maybe not on wages but defo on fees) - 'Arry got back what he spent in the window or at least will have done by the time Remy signs for Newcastle in the window.
Just being picky like.... |
Problem at Palace was he lost 2 of his front 3 so had to start again. Zaha went to man Utd and Murray got injured, he already needed to make changes to the squad and losing those two forced him to panic buy in the summer | | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 12:48 - Oct 24 with 1317 views | themodfather |
well olly has taken 3 teams up, 2 that were in/near admin!
some record and he has honour too. | | | |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 15:11 - Oct 24 with 1275 views | Match82 |
| ssn ...olly gone from palace on 11:45 - Oct 24 by toboboly |
Those were the odds on us staying up. Christ people are picky. He was on a hiding to nothing that first season, and the season he took Blackpool up (favourites for relegation I seem to remember) and now a crappy Palace squad he got up have not done very well and people are slating him? He hadn't spunked as much as Hughes and 'Arry did. |
I'm a big Olly fan, but credit for the Palace promotion should go to Dougie Freedman |  | | |
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