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Take this for an example. The USA is being prevented from rolling out a $1.8 trillion COVID bailout package by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. This happened today. It is big news in America, even CNN is taking this story seriously, I just watched Wolf Blitzer giving Nancy Pelosi a good going over on the subject (imagine the Guardian were demanding answers from Corbyn for using the system to block a bailout in this country...that's what this is).
...that last page is hilariously one sided. If you want a laugh scroll down and check out the BBC's spin on what Biden said in the video under 'Did Joe Biden really say he was running for the Senate?'.
These people aren't journalists. They are not reporting the news. They have an agenda and are trying to confuse people with lies (see Biden video). ...and they are all paid very well indeed, paid by us.
Don't trust the BBC on 15:07 - Oct 18 by A_Fans_Dad
I have absolutely no problem in apogising for picking the wrong quote by you. Happy now?
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When Jay Danielson was murdered in cold blood just for simply walking down the street. I reported it on here very clearly.
The murderer was on film lying in wait until Jay and his friend walked past then ambushed them and murdered Jay. He then shouted “yeah we got one!!” before the murder was celebrated en masse by BLM and ANTIFA as well as online.
When the act and also that behaviour was called out on here... FieryJack made up a fantasy scenario in order to defend the murder and said the following false scenario of victim blaming in a disgusting false smear attempt:-
“Er, I don't think so. He wasn't some "innocent", random, local dog-walker.
He was a far right supporter from out of town. Up for a brawl, I imagine, with the BLM/far left idiots.”
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
What you actually did was quote from the BBC a quote from the killer himself that it was self defense. When, if you had watched the video you would have see that it was just outright murder. You then compounded it by suggesting the killer was telling the the truth and that maybe he had been threatened with a knife anything up to half an hour before. As if it was justification for cold blooded murder.
All without watching the video that was readily available.
" Oh well, shot for being the suspect shotter 😂 at 15:52 4 Sep 2020
The quotation above is from the alleged killer (who was shot today) not his mate.
I haven't seen the video, and even if I had I doubt it would be conclusive.
What angle was it taken from? What was the lead up to it? Were they threatened with knives during the footage? 30 seconds before the footage? Maybe even half an hour before it? Is the footage edited? If so, in what way and by whom? "
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Don't trust the BBC on 15:31 - Oct 18 with 1312 views
Don't trust the BBC on 15:22 - Oct 18 by A_Fans_Dad
What you actually did was quote from the BBC a quote from the killer himself that it was self defense. When, if you had watched the video you would have see that it was just outright murder. You then compounded it by suggesting the killer was telling the the truth and that maybe he had been threatened with a knife anything up to half an hour before. As if it was justification for cold blooded murder.
All without watching the video that was readily available.
" Oh well, shot for being the suspect shotter 😂 at 15:52 4 Sep 2020
The quotation above is from the alleged killer (who was shot today) not his mate.
I haven't seen the video, and even if I had I doubt it would be conclusive.
What angle was it taken from? What was the lead up to it? Were they threatened with knives during the footage? 30 seconds before the footage? Maybe even half an hour before it? Is the footage edited? If so, in what way and by whom? "
Indeed. Unbelievable really.
We had similar when the poor man the other day got murdered in Denver. People just would not accept it was cold blooded murder and even wanted me to change the title to something more palatable to their preferred narrative.
Tried to come up with every scenario in order to justify it. “He slapped him first” was one of them. Just shocking.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Don't trust the BBC on 15:17 - Oct 18 by Dr_Parnassus
When Jay Danielson was murdered in cold blood just for simply walking down the street. I reported it on here very clearly.
The murderer was on film lying in wait until Jay and his friend walked past then ambushed them and murdered Jay. He then shouted “yeah we got one!!” before the murder was celebrated en masse by BLM and ANTIFA as well as online.
When the act and also that behaviour was called out on here... FieryJack made up a fantasy scenario in order to defend the murder and said the following false scenario of victim blaming in a disgusting false smear attempt:-
“Er, I don't think so. He wasn't some "innocent", random, local dog-walker.
He was a far right supporter from out of town. Up for a brawl, I imagine, with the BLM/far left idiots.”
I stand by those comments, which were written in response to the suggestion that Danielson was unconnected with either set of protestors. That in itself does not constitute a justification for murder on my part.
I very much doubt you'd be tying yourself up in knots if the victim had been BLM/Antifa.
And, ironically, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I refer to "BLM/far Left idiots" and describe the suspect, shot dead by police in Washington, as "receiving his just desserts".
Hardly the words, you'll agree, of an apologist for BLM/far Left murderers.
I'm left with the clear impression that your main aim here is not to sympathise with the victims, but to use their deaths as an excuse to besmirch my character, score cheap political points, and hoist yourself up onto your high horse of assumed superior morality.
The victims are merely grist to the mill for you, and I've little doubt you sit around breathlessly waiting for the next atrocity so that you can grab your computer and start ranting and pointing the finger online again.
Utterly repellent behaviour.
(Apologies for mistakenly naming you as the OP of the thread under discussion - but at least I provided you with what seems to be the highlight of your day.)
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Don't trust the BBC on 20:58 - Oct 18 with 1245 views
Don't trust the BBC on 16:48 - Oct 18 by FieryJack
I stand by those comments, which were written in response to the suggestion that Danielson was unconnected with either set of protestors. That in itself does not constitute a justification for murder on my part.
I very much doubt you'd be tying yourself up in knots if the victim had been BLM/Antifa.
And, ironically, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I refer to "BLM/far Left idiots" and describe the suspect, shot dead by police in Washington, as "receiving his just desserts".
Hardly the words, you'll agree, of an apologist for BLM/far Left murderers.
I'm left with the clear impression that your main aim here is not to sympathise with the victims, but to use their deaths as an excuse to besmirch my character, score cheap political points, and hoist yourself up onto your high horse of assumed superior morality.
The victims are merely grist to the mill for you, and I've little doubt you sit around breathlessly waiting for the next atrocity so that you can grab your computer and start ranting and pointing the finger online again.
Utterly repellent behaviour.
(Apologies for mistakenly naming you as the OP of the thread under discussion - but at least I provided you with what seems to be the highlight of your day.)
If the victim was not being aggressive I would call it out for what it was every single time regardless of affiliation or political views.
Jay Danielson was killed for his political views, not his actions. You justified his murder by painting him as a violent thug. It remains abhorrent and the fact you stand by those comments even though it’s proven false and the videos are widely available says it all.
Point proven.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Not sure if she would have a grudge to bear but she seems to think as many others do
I used to watch the Beeb like most people but realised they were biased for the union state, the Queen, business over workers, for the Conservative and unionist party etc It was obvious to me, then a Welsh university was commissioned by the Beeb to look to see if they were biased or not and of course they found that they were right wing biased. The way they covered the Scottish referendum, the air time they give Cons over Labour, same with bosses over workers, the way the cover the Palestinian, Israeli conflict etc etc, no surprise, people with an agenda know they are right wing biased but will deliberately say they are left wing biased to try and keep things as they are, it's as much of a game as friends of a foreign power blackening a party leaders name to prevent him from being Prime Minister fearing he might have an understanding of the Palestinians cause.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
I used to watch the Beeb like most people but realised they were biased for the union state, the Queen, business over workers, for the Conservative and unionist party etc It was obvious to me, then a Welsh university was commissioned by the Beeb to look to see if they were biased or not and of course they found that they were right wing biased. The way they covered the Scottish referendum, the air time they give Cons over Labour, same with bosses over workers, the way the cover the Palestinian, Israeli conflict etc etc, no surprise, people with an agenda know they are right wing biased but will deliberately say they are left wing biased to try and keep things as they are, it's as much of a game as friends of a foreign power blackening a party leaders name to prevent him from being Prime Minister fearing he might have an understanding of the Palestinians cause.
What you say just proves the point I made. The left say the beeb is baised to the right. The right say it is biased to the left. The truth is it sways back and forth, moving with the current and is less biased than many other media outlets, such as the Express, Daily Mail or Guardian.
As for blackening names, when I saw Boris Johnson going to hide in a fridge, it was on the BBC. I think it say a lot about Corbyn that eventually even Owen Jones turned on him. Corbyn, the great socialist who's wife profits from low paid Mexican workers...and that is completely true. Corbyn blackened his own name as Bojo blackens his own name with all the lies, bluster and cock ups.
There is a growing movement which would like to defund the BBC, which imo wouldn't exist if the move from an impartial stance when reporting to what we have today a very much left of centre view on politics with an undertone of open dislike towards anyone with a right of centre viewpoint. Its "comedy " output is erring towards a basis against white people and thats been recognised by the DG of the BBC .getting the balance right has always been difficult but the left have had their say for far too long
What you say just proves the point I made. The left say the beeb is baised to the right. The right say it is biased to the left. The truth is it sways back and forth, moving with the current and is less biased than many other media outlets, such as the Express, Daily Mail or Guardian.
As for blackening names, when I saw Boris Johnson going to hide in a fridge, it was on the BBC. I think it say a lot about Corbyn that eventually even Owen Jones turned on him. Corbyn, the great socialist who's wife profits from low paid Mexican workers...and that is completely true. Corbyn blackened his own name as Bojo blackens his own name with all the lies, bluster and cock ups.
No I doesn't move back and forth it's a right wing biased organisation, the experts found it to be right wing, right wingers are playing a game saying it's left wing as they want to keep it as it is.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
No I doesn't move back and forth it's a right wing biased organisation, the experts found it to be right wing, right wingers are playing a game saying it's left wing as they want to keep it as it is.
Some experts found it right wing some experts found it left wing depends which experts you listen to. An in depth survey of all their programmes found that in balance the news programmes were left wing biased, citing programmes like questions time with left wing loaded panelist and left wingoaded audience.
It also found most current event comedy panel shows were overwhelmingly left wing with on average 10 anti right wing jokes to 1 anti left wing jokes.
Other programmes were found to be slightly right wing biased.
Some experts found it right wing some experts found it left wing depends which experts you listen to. An in depth survey of all their programmes found that in balance the news programmes were left wing biased, citing programmes like questions time with left wing loaded panelist and left wingoaded audience.
It also found most current event comedy panel shows were overwhelmingly left wing with on average 10 anti right wing jokes to 1 anti left wing jokes.
Other programmes were found to be slightly right wing biased.
These people working for a Welsh university were recognised experts commissioned by the BBC themselves and the Beeb were found to be right wing biased, but there again that was obvious to any fair minded and unbiased person.
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Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
These people working for a Welsh university were recognised experts commissioned by the BBC themselves and the Beeb were found to be right wing biased, but there again that was obvious to any fair minded and unbiased person.
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I would not trust any research commissioned by the BBC especially if asked a welsh university to do it. Most university are left wing biased anyway.
You really do need to find some independent body to judge the BBC.
After all the labour party's investigation into antisemitism found there was no antisemitism in the labour party.
No I doesn't move back and forth it's a right wing biased organisation, the experts found it to be right wing, right wingers are playing a game saying it's left wing as they want to keep it as it is.
Ok, and right wingers say the left are playing that same game.
These expert at the university, what are their politics?
You can always find an expert with an opposing point of view. When you have 2 experts giving you opposing arguments, who do you believe? The one you agree with of course. Such is life, Youare a leftie and you want to believe the beeb is right wing.
Tell me, is "Mock the Week" right wing? It's one of many clearly left leaning programmes. HIGNFY tries to stay neutral, it rips into everyone but otherwise, can you name a panel show that is clearly right wing?
I would not trust any research commissioned by the BBC especially if asked a welsh university to do it. Most university are left wing biased anyway.
You really do need to find some independent body to judge the BBC.
After all the labour party's investigation into antisemitism found there was no antisemitism in the labour party.
The evidence was undisputable, the Beeb gave twice as much coverage to the Conservatives as compared to Labour, I think it was Labour got twice the amount of coverage as the Conservatives when Labour was in power but when the Conservatives were in power they got 4 times the amount of coverage that Labour did.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
Ok, and right wingers say the left are playing that same game.
These expert at the university, what are their politics?
You can always find an expert with an opposing point of view. When you have 2 experts giving you opposing arguments, who do you believe? The one you agree with of course. Such is life, Youare a leftie and you want to believe the beeb is right wing.
Tell me, is "Mock the Week" right wing? It's one of many clearly left leaning programmes. HIGNFY tries to stay neutral, it rips into everyone but otherwise, can you name a panel show that is clearly right wing?
They are not playing the same game because the Beeb are right wing, it's only the right playing the game to keep their advantage. From my interaction I would say they are Tories, they are recognised as experts and one of their current number is always on TV as an expert analysis.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
The evidence was undisputable, the Beeb gave twice as much coverage to the Conservatives as compared to Labour, I think it was Labour got twice the amount of coverage as the Conservatives when Labour was in power but when the Conservatives were in power they got 4 times the amount of coverage that Labour did.
Can you provide a link, any evidence to back this up? Where is this study posted?
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