| Don't trust the BBC 23:04 - Oct 13 with 15947 views | Kerouac |
...it is merely a propaganda machine for Lefties.
Take this for an example.
The USA is being prevented from rolling out a $1.8 trillion COVID bailout package by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. This happened today. It is big news in America, even CNN is taking this story seriously, I just watched Wolf Blitzer giving Nancy Pelosi a good going over on the subject (imagine the Guardian were demanding answers from Corbyn for using the system to block a bailout in this country...that's what this is).
Now, the BBC has been taking a pretty keen interest in US politics lately, every day there is a multitude of anti-Trump articles.
How do they report this story?
Nothing on the main page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/
Nothing in the 'News' section: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Nothing under 'World' (several attack jobs on Trump's Supreme Court Judge pick though): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world
Nothing under 'US and Canada': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada
...that last page is hilariously one sided.
If you want a laugh scroll down and check out the BBC's spin on what Biden said in the video under 'Did Joe Biden really say he was running for the Senate?'.
These people aren't journalists.
They are not reporting the news.
They have an agenda and are trying to confuse people with lies (see Biden video).
...and they are all paid very well indeed, paid by us.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:40 - Oct 16 with 1251 views | ItchySphincter |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:34 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you wish to be able to state as many untruths as you like about me without me having the right to reply... have I got that right?
Yeah, not happening. If that upsets you and Itch then you will just have to buy some more tissues I suggest.
Whether Itch was referring to me or not is irrelevant, he has a history of making silly remarks to me that don’t align with his words.
The fact is the content of what he said is actually geared to the people who go out of their way to turn an on topic discussion that they can garner no traction within - to a personal slanging match because if they cannot win a debate they try and win a personal battle, it is the epitome of an attempt to dominate.
But you know that, don’t you. |
I think I’m reasonably pleasant towards you in general. 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:43 - Oct 16 with 1218 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:25 - Oct 16 by FieryJack |
Thanks, Gradgrind.
😂 For giving me a good laugh before going to bed - as you know, it's getting late over in Blighty, so I'm off to Bedfordshire (my home county, as it happens - but I shouldn't really be divulging that sort of info to you, should I?) very shortly.
Me, having a full-on mental breakdown!? 😂
Carry on, mate.
You're starting to behave like a cornered rat, lashing out all over the place.
Enjoy your cornflakes and OJ 👠|
You can tell me anything you like. I haven’t shown support for political murder or become enraged by someone’s political beliefs without the intelligence to state why - so the threat levels aren’t the same. I tend to steer toward common sense, fact and logic as I have taught you previously - something you have openly said you push away from as you prefer to side with emotion over logic.
It explains a lot.
Cornered? Nothing cornered about me. You would have to make even the slightest semblance of a point before wishing to corner someone, something you have failed to do on countless occasions. Including failing the obfuscating and dishonesty test I set for you in my last post, funny that. I have exposed you for what you are and it’s sent you utterly mad.
By all means, I urge you again, try and counter a point I make. We both know you can’t however which is why you have now resorted to your current behaviour.
Quit while you are substantially behind is my advice.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:45 - Oct 16 with 1215 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:35 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
I’m off to bed soon so don’t want to get caught up in the details, but Catt is a pretty balanced fella and I object to him being called mad or illogical.
Enjoy your evening 👠|
You can object to whatever you like, it won’t change anything though.
Anyone who calls a spade a doughnut is not acting logical, whether you believe they have been logical or not in the past is irrelevant.
You don’t want to get caught up in the details because you know I am spot on. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:46 - Oct 16 with 1227 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:45 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
You can object to whatever you like, it won’t change anything though.
Anyone who calls a spade a doughnut is not acting logical, whether you believe they have been logical or not in the past is irrelevant.
You don’t want to get caught up in the details because you know I am spot on. |
Nope. It’s not that.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:47 - Oct 16 with 1207 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:35 - Oct 16 by ItchySphincter |
Did you get one?
Only joking! |
Of course not.
You don’t get warnings for replying to people in a sensible manner. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:50 - Oct 16 with 1217 views | ItchySphincter |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:47 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Of course not.
You don’t get warnings for replying to people in a sensible manner. |
I wonder who got told off?
Rhetorical. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:52 - Oct 16 with 1192 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:46 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
Nope. It’s not that.
Night 👠|
So you think it’s logical to deny clear facts then?
Sounds a hint of bias in that. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 23:53]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 00:49 - Oct 17 with 1190 views | NotLoyal |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:19 - Oct 15 by Darran |
I’ve promised Keith I won’t be replying to the forum destroyer anymore.
Goodbye. |
This forum and website isn't about your personal issues, it's about positivity and debate, you are no longer the centre of attention, and long may that remain. |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 19:35 - Oct 17 with 1121 views | Catullus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:23 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
No it isn’t. Not even close.
You have become as mad as the people you have associated yourselves with.
As I have explained, I don’t work for a chain. I work for a countries global wing, there is only one. Although I don’t think I would reveal it even if there were 10 to someone who defended the murder of two Republicans and is clearly unhinged regarding myself also aligning with them politically - hence the question.
Get with the programme Cat and stop sucking up to the idiots, you are better than that.
While you are at it you can tell me why the headline “Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver” implied that it was by a Biden supporter. You seemed to run away after I asked you to show me. |
That is complete and utter nonsense and o amount of double talk on your part will change that.
I haven't aligned with anyone to start with. My opnions are my own and as such, my madness is my own.
Does this countries global wing only have one office then? After all you couldn't describe the NHS or Royal Mail as a chain...or do you? Now that really would be mad.
I don't recall who defended the murder of two Republicans though I know it wsn't myself, wjo was it?
Which programme should I get with? The sucking up to Trump programme? No thanks, that would be a sidiotic as sucking up to Biden because they are absolutely nothing to do with me. I don't support either.
One last thing, I didn't run awy from anything. The headline was misleading in that it wasn't accurate and could be percieved in different ways. You always post things in a way that allows you to speak kindly of Trump and nadly of Biden, it's your bias. You culd have put "Trump supporter shot by security guard" which I believe (though not 100% sure and really can't be bothered to go looking) I said similar too at the time.
The problem with you Dr P is that no matter what people post you keep coming back with the same question, even when it's been answered more than once. Then, when people lose patience with your obsession you accuse them of running away. Or you start with insults like calling people mad.
Once more to dispel any doubt, I don't support Biden nor do I align myself with any Biden supporter, my opinion of you in entirely my own and is formed after reading your posts and not after reading other people's opinions of you.
My political compass has me slightly left of centre, nowhere near you and Trump and not close to any far left loony either. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 20:12 - Oct 17 with 1114 views | LeonWasGod |
| Don't trust the BBC on 19:35 - Oct 17 by Catullus |
That is complete and utter nonsense and o amount of double talk on your part will change that.
I haven't aligned with anyone to start with. My opnions are my own and as such, my madness is my own.
Does this countries global wing only have one office then? After all you couldn't describe the NHS or Royal Mail as a chain...or do you? Now that really would be mad.
I don't recall who defended the murder of two Republicans though I know it wsn't myself, wjo was it?
Which programme should I get with? The sucking up to Trump programme? No thanks, that would be a sidiotic as sucking up to Biden because they are absolutely nothing to do with me. I don't support either.
One last thing, I didn't run awy from anything. The headline was misleading in that it wasn't accurate and could be percieved in different ways. You always post things in a way that allows you to speak kindly of Trump and nadly of Biden, it's your bias. You culd have put "Trump supporter shot by security guard" which I believe (though not 100% sure and really can't be bothered to go looking) I said similar too at the time.
The problem with you Dr P is that no matter what people post you keep coming back with the same question, even when it's been answered more than once. Then, when people lose patience with your obsession you accuse them of running away. Or you start with insults like calling people mad.
Once more to dispel any doubt, I don't support Biden nor do I align myself with any Biden supporter, my opinion of you in entirely my own and is formed after reading your posts and not after reading other people's opinions of you.
My political compass has me slightly left of centre, nowhere near you and Trump and not close to any far left loony either. |
Can you now see what we've had to deal with over Brexit? It's exactly the same one-eyedness. I'm not having a go at you here btw, the patience you've shown against this nonsence since the sites split apart is far beyond anything I could manage. I can't post here these days becasue of this sort of rubbish. But how you're feeling now is exactly how non-believers (= non-cultists) of Brext have felt for years. Trump, Brexit, anti-BBC, anti-vax, etc., adoration are so similar - none are grounded in facts or sense. [Post edited 17 Oct 2020 20:13]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 20:41 - Oct 17 with 1095 views | trampie |
| Don't trust the BBC on 19:35 - Oct 17 by Catullus |
That is complete and utter nonsense and o amount of double talk on your part will change that.
I haven't aligned with anyone to start with. My opnions are my own and as such, my madness is my own.
Does this countries global wing only have one office then? After all you couldn't describe the NHS or Royal Mail as a chain...or do you? Now that really would be mad.
I don't recall who defended the murder of two Republicans though I know it wsn't myself, wjo was it?
Which programme should I get with? The sucking up to Trump programme? No thanks, that would be a sidiotic as sucking up to Biden because they are absolutely nothing to do with me. I don't support either.
One last thing, I didn't run awy from anything. The headline was misleading in that it wasn't accurate and could be percieved in different ways. You always post things in a way that allows you to speak kindly of Trump and nadly of Biden, it's your bias. You culd have put "Trump supporter shot by security guard" which I believe (though not 100% sure and really can't be bothered to go looking) I said similar too at the time.
The problem with you Dr P is that no matter what people post you keep coming back with the same question, even when it's been answered more than once. Then, when people lose patience with your obsession you accuse them of running away. Or you start with insults like calling people mad.
Once more to dispel any doubt, I don't support Biden nor do I align myself with any Biden supporter, my opinion of you in entirely my own and is formed after reading your posts and not after reading other people's opinions of you.
My political compass has me slightly left of centre, nowhere near you and Trump and not close to any far left loony either. |
Slightly left of centre is Plaid (Labour all over the place, Cons right, Lib-Dems centre right), didn't realise you are a Plaid Cymru voter ? |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 20:44 - Oct 17 with 1094 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Don't trust the BBC on 20:12 - Oct 17 by LeonWasGod |
Can you now see what we've had to deal with over Brexit? It's exactly the same one-eyedness. I'm not having a go at you here btw, the patience you've shown against this nonsence since the sites split apart is far beyond anything I could manage. I can't post here these days becasue of this sort of rubbish. But how you're feeling now is exactly how non-believers (= non-cultists) of Brext have felt for years. Trump, Brexit, anti-BBC, anti-vax, etc., adoration are so similar - none are grounded in facts or sense. [Post edited 17 Oct 2020 20:13]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 20:49 - Oct 17 with 1085 views | 1462jack |
| Don't trust the BBC on 20:12 - Oct 17 by LeonWasGod |
Can you now see what we've had to deal with over Brexit? It's exactly the same one-eyedness. I'm not having a go at you here btw, the patience you've shown against this nonsence since the sites split apart is far beyond anything I could manage. I can't post here these days becasue of this sort of rubbish. But how you're feeling now is exactly how non-believers (= non-cultists) of Brext have felt for years. Trump, Brexit, anti-BBC, anti-vax, etc., adoration are so similar - none are grounded in facts or sense. [Post edited 17 Oct 2020 20:13]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 21:33 - Oct 17 with 1054 views | KeithHaynes |
| Don't trust the BBC on 20:12 - Oct 17 by LeonWasGod |
Can you now see what we've had to deal with over Brexit? It's exactly the same one-eyedness. I'm not having a go at you here btw, the patience you've shown against this nonsence since the sites split apart is far beyond anything I could manage. I can't post here these days becasue of this sort of rubbish. But how you're feeling now is exactly how non-believers (= non-cultists) of Brext have felt for years. Trump, Brexit, anti-BBC, anti-vax, etc., adoration are so similar - none are grounded in facts or sense. [Post edited 17 Oct 2020 20:13]
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Debate is what it’s all about, being able to discuss and talk through a variety of topics, some of which surprisingly you don’t have to agree with. You are always welcome on here if you can add value or just peruse the football board. I assume you didn’t experience yesterday’s deadline day with us ? As I said always welcome.
BTW, the sites didn’t split, this never stopped going but had no leadership, now it has, after one month myself and Phil are extremely happy with the content, and agreement that there’s no us and them. |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 01:45 - Oct 18 with 970 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 19:35 - Oct 17 by Catullus |
That is complete and utter nonsense and o amount of double talk on your part will change that.
I haven't aligned with anyone to start with. My opnions are my own and as such, my madness is my own.
Does this countries global wing only have one office then? After all you couldn't describe the NHS or Royal Mail as a chain...or do you? Now that really would be mad.
I don't recall who defended the murder of two Republicans though I know it wsn't myself, wjo was it?
Which programme should I get with? The sucking up to Trump programme? No thanks, that would be a sidiotic as sucking up to Biden because they are absolutely nothing to do with me. I don't support either.
One last thing, I didn't run awy from anything. The headline was misleading in that it wasn't accurate and could be percieved in different ways. You always post things in a way that allows you to speak kindly of Trump and nadly of Biden, it's your bias. You culd have put "Trump supporter shot by security guard" which I believe (though not 100% sure and really can't be bothered to go looking) I said similar too at the time.
The problem with you Dr P is that no matter what people post you keep coming back with the same question, even when it's been answered more than once. Then, when people lose patience with your obsession you accuse them of running away. Or you start with insults like calling people mad.
Once more to dispel any doubt, I don't support Biden nor do I align myself with any Biden supporter, my opinion of you in entirely my own and is formed after reading your posts and not after reading other people's opinions of you.
My political compass has me slightly left of centre, nowhere near you and Trump and not close to any far left loony either. |
Okay there is a lot to unpack there, lots you have intentionally failed to answer too, so here we go.
1) Does this countries global wing have only one office too then? Of course, London. In the States it’s in New Jersey. This really isn’t difficult to comprehend.
2) Fieryjack defended the murder of two Republicans, simply because they are Republicans.
3) You should get with the programme of understanding the conversation you are putting yourself into and also understand what it is people are saying to you specifically.
4) Again, you have said my thread topic wasn’t accurate. Where is the inaccuracy? “Supporter of the President (fact) shot dead (fact) in Denver (fact)”. What on earth has that got to do with Biden? What on earth has that got to do with Biden Supporters (he was a Bernie supporter) and why does his profession matter? You aren’t asking me to name the murder victims profession. The guy has been charged with murder, this has nothing to do with his duties (he wasn’t even a qualified one).
Do you see why your view is nonsense now?
5) I do not ever repeat questions that have been answered. Take point 4 for example, I have asked you several times where is the inaccuracy in the heading, you are now over a week later and haven’t been able to show me once.
What you mean is you would rather my heading portray a different reality by pretending the murderer did nothing wrong and was protecting people.... which would be a false narrative. He’s been charged with second degree murder. “Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver” is absolutely spot on with what a headline should be to portray the events.
6) We will have to agree to disagree on your political allegiances, unless your irrational opinions are because of me (which is actually possible) I will choose to believe the evidence in your posting that it is due to political leanings as opposed to irrational behaviour based on the poster you are responding to. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 10:10 - Oct 18 with 926 views | FieryJack |
" Fieryjack defended the murder of two Republicans, simply because they are Republicans."
I'd be surprised if this is true, and would like to see the evidence.
Thread titles will do, rather than selective quotes removed from their context.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 11:04 - Oct 18 with 907 views | chad |
| Don't trust the BBC on 20:12 - Oct 17 by LeonWasGod |
Can you now see what we've had to deal with over Brexit? It's exactly the same one-eyedness. I'm not having a go at you here btw, the patience you've shown against this nonsence since the sites split apart is far beyond anything I could manage. I can't post here these days becasue of this sort of rubbish. But how you're feeling now is exactly how non-believers (= non-cultists) of Brext have felt for years. Trump, Brexit, anti-BBC, anti-vax, etc., adoration are so similar - none are grounded in facts or sense. [Post edited 17 Oct 2020 20:13]
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Hilarious trying to show your balance whilst calling Brexit a cult. When the majority Of those that voted (and on a high turnout because for once every vote counted) voted for it.
The abuse on that Brexit thread was awful and the majority from anti brexiteers, and insults based on skin colour most especially ironic.
If you see the advantages greater than the disadvantages of remaining in an organisation that has been described as clueless and incompetent by its own anti Brexit UK member. that is pushing for more and more globalisation, world control and has stated from the top it wants to build the world in its own image, and wants to build a ‘real true’ European (EU) army to further its aims, that is fine, your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it.
Not learning from the issues of Empire does not make a great deal of sense to me, nor being so arrogant as the EU, to think the world should be built in their image, but that is just my opinion, I would hope it is an opinion pretty far removed from cult. Not to mention the fears of where more and more globalisation is taking us, or large block army building
Fortunately a lot of remain voters were willing to accept the decision of the majority. Unfortunately others sided / colluded with an EU desperate to retain power over our country and were willing to do everything to make this process more difficult and costly for our country. Whilst I understand their disappointment and fear of change I think such behaviour was counterproductive and damaging to our country.
Obviously Keith is correct. This Fansnetwork site merely continued with all its existing posts and data. |  | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 12:28 - Oct 18 with 876 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 10:10 - Oct 18 by FieryJack |
" Fieryjack defended the murder of two Republicans, simply because they are Republicans."
I'd be surprised if this is true, and would like to see the evidence.
Thread titles will do, rather than selective quotes removed from their context.
Thanks. |
So you spend months ignoring my questions and you expect me to jump when asked. We both know you did it as others have also noted. But be my guest if you wish to pretend otherwise. You aren’t fooling anybody. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 12:40 - Oct 18 with 876 views | FieryJack |
| Don't trust the BBC on 12:28 - Oct 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you spend months ignoring my questions and you expect me to jump when asked. We both know you did it as others have also noted. But be my guest if you wish to pretend otherwise. You aren’t fooling anybody. |
No, I don't know I did it.
Because I didn't.
I asked you for evidence. And, tellingly, for once, you can come up with nothing.
Show me where others have noted my support for such murders.
But no, don't bother, I can't be ars*d on the Sabbath to put up with your lies and arrogance.
And I'm sure you too have got better things to do today than trawl through all my previous posts looking for something which doesn't exist. | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 12:48 - Oct 18 with 865 views | Dr_Parnassus |
What you mean I come up with nothing? Most will know here you tried to make out the murder victims had a part to play in their deaths simply for their political views. I’m not the only only to call you out for it.
But I’m not playing your games, if you want me to show you exactly where you did this then you start playing by the rules. I have asked you question upon question which you have ignored (because you can’t answer) - answer them and I’ll show you your comments.
Can’t say fairer than that. You can start with how people are being oppressed today in America. Ta. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 14:02 - Oct 18 with 856 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Don't trust the BBC on 12:40 - Oct 18 by FieryJack |
No, I don't know I did it.
Because I didn't.
I asked you for evidence. And, tellingly, for once, you can come up with nothing.
Show me where others have noted my support for such murders.
But no, don't bother, I can't be ars*d on the Sabbath to put up with your lies and arrogance.
And I'm sure you too have got better things to do today than trawl through all my previous posts looking for something which doesn't exist. |
Oh, allow me.
Oh well, shot for being the suspect shotter 😂
at 20:42 4 Sep 2020
"If that's the case, Loh, then he got his just desserts today."
"Just Deserts" for being a "suspect", judge jury and executioner. | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:34 - Oct 18 with 839 views | FieryJack |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:02 - Oct 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
Oh, allow me.
Oh well, shot for being the suspect shotter 😂
at 20:42 4 Sep 2020
"If that's the case, Loh, then he got his just desserts today."
"Just Deserts" for being a "suspect", judge jury and executioner. |
"Oh, allow me"
What a disgustingly smarmy opening. You are Gradgrind's chief lieutenant, and an obsequious lackey of the first order.
You've gone to all this trouble to do Grad's dirty work for him and have come up with the square root of naff all.
Your boss accused me of defending the murder of 2 Trump-supporting Republicans, one of whom bore the surname Danielson, something which I strongly deny.
Ironically, the person I refer to as "getting his just desserts" - and note I use the qualifying phrase "if that's the case" (meaning if he was responsible for Danielson's murder) - is the man suspected of killing a Trump supporter.
This Antifa/BLM suspect was shot dead by police in a suburb of Washington on the night of September 3rd, and it was him I was referring to.
Even Gradgrind would agree with my sentiments on his demise.
You have, very foolishly, rushed in to ar*e-lick your pal on the other side of the globe, and only succeeded in making a complete idiot of yourself.
Apologise.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 14:40 - Oct 18 with 832 views | FieryJack |
Also, please note the author of that particular thread (Gradgrind), and, in particular, the mocking tone of its title.
The sarcasm in it is aimed squarely at the suspect shot by the Washington police.
Am I to take it that you are taking aim at your boss here too? or just me? | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:52 - Oct 18 with 820 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:40 - Oct 18 by FieryJack |
Also, please note the author of that particular thread (Gradgrind), and, in particular, the mocking tone of its title.
The sarcasm in it is aimed squarely at the suspect shot by the Washington police.
Am I to take it that you are taking aim at your boss here too? or just me? |
Another lie, I was not the author of that thread. Get your facts right before trying to take on the Doctor.
Apologise.
Now.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 15:07 - Oct 18 with 816 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Don't trust the BBC on 14:34 - Oct 18 by FieryJack |
"Oh, allow me"
What a disgustingly smarmy opening. You are Gradgrind's chief lieutenant, and an obsequious lackey of the first order.
You've gone to all this trouble to do Grad's dirty work for him and have come up with the square root of naff all.
Your boss accused me of defending the murder of 2 Trump-supporting Republicans, one of whom bore the surname Danielson, something which I strongly deny.
Ironically, the person I refer to as "getting his just desserts" - and note I use the qualifying phrase "if that's the case" (meaning if he was responsible for Danielson's murder) - is the man suspected of killing a Trump supporter.
This Antifa/BLM suspect was shot dead by police in a suburb of Washington on the night of September 3rd, and it was him I was referring to.
Even Gradgrind would agree with my sentiments on his demise.
You have, very foolishly, rushed in to ar*e-lick your pal on the other side of the globe, and only succeeded in making a complete idiot of yourself.
Apologise.
Now. |
I have absolutely no problem in apogising for picking the wrong quote by you.
Happy now? [Post edited 18 Oct 2020 15:16]
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