| Corbyn's jealousy shines 11:27 - Jan 10 with 9284 views | blueytheblue |
Hey folks, lets have a maximum income limit!
Yeah, great idea that one.
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 21:31 - Jan 10 with 1015 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 17:14 - Jan 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
In the 1980's there were opportunities for people to earn well but nowadays it's all become a bit of a closed shop. Global capitalism ruining the planet as well as pitting neighbour against neighbour. Also stirring up xenophobia in this country as well as Europewide.
You're coming across as exactly what you are Bluey, a middle aged (not far from retirement I'd hazard a guess)" I'm alright jack".
You try applying for, working on and living on the minimum wage mate. It's because of people like you that social mobility is nowadays nigh on impossible with your defence of the ultra rich, people ironically who would look at you as if they'd just trodden in some terrier turds if you ever had the displeasure of meeting them.
The greatest trick the tories ever pulled off was convincing people like you that you are well off, when in real terms your just above the tide mark. |
Magnificent post Bryn |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:06 - Jan 10 with 1001 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 19:13 - Jan 10 by Private_Partz |
You do realise the richer are getting richer and the poorer are getting poorer don't you?
A politician the wants to bring in a limit to stop the gap getting wider. Pretty rare I would say.
Politicians saying what the big wig's don't like are bound to be shot down.
Cap doffers like you and bluey will only extentouate it. |
Unfortunately they never had to work minimum wage so they are completely and willfully ignorant of other people trying to scrape a living and pay for accommodation in the uk right now. |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:09 - Jan 10 with 994 views | blueytheblue |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:06 - Jan 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Unfortunately they never had to work minimum wage so they are completely and willfully ignorant of other people trying to scrape a living and pay for accommodation in the uk right now. |
Is that a fact, fella?
By that question, I of course mean you're utterly wrong. I've worked minimum wage in the past. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:17 - Jan 10 with 991 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:09 - Jan 10 by blueytheblue |
Is that a fact, fella?
By that question, I of course mean you're utterly wrong. I've worked minimum wage in the past. |
When was that then bluey? | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:43 - Jan 10 with 975 views | pikeypaul |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 20:16 - Jan 10 by londonlisa2001 |
I agree with you that the gap between the rich and the poor is obscene. The problem is that the suggestion of a maximum wage is utterly stupid.
Firstly, you are, in effect, introducing a 100% tax rate. If a job is 'worth' say £1m a year at the moment, and a maximum salary is introduced of, say £400k (as an example, but based on a quick fag packet calculation of 20 times £20k since there are proposals for it to be calculated in such a way), then what you are really doing is taxing the amount above £400k at 100%. Would you bother?
Secondly all that would happen would be a restructuring of executive packages because of the first point. From salary to share awards. Because more profits would exist in the companies and they would pay them out as dividends. And they would give their execs more shares so paying them via dividends and also capital appreciation on the shares.
Thirdly companies would simply relocate their head office function, and employ their executives in a different country for tax purposes. They could keep their staff here, so no effect, but move their senior people if necessary. Or they would just relocate depending on the business, and lose lots of jobs.
Corbyn doesn't understand all this, which is a genuine problem. He has no ability to go from an idea, in this case, "we need to begin to close the gap in earnings" to actual ways to about it in the real world. [Post edited 10 Jan 2017 20:21]
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So after the 1st £400k we pay our players in club shares?
That would be funny seeing the yanks and the selllouts shares being diluted.
So funny in fact I am now for Corbyns stupid plan. |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 23:12 - Jan 10 with 960 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 22:43 - Jan 10 by pikeypaul |
So after the 1st £400k we pay our players in club shares?
That would be funny seeing the yanks and the selllouts shares being diluted.
So funny in fact I am now for Corbyns stupid plan. |
We're not a public company, so no.
Our players would simply leave.
I was fairly transparently (I thought) talking in response to Tommy's point re major corporations. A significant portion of executive bonuses are currently paid in shares, not cash. When you see headlines about £5m bonuses or similar, most of that will be in shares at the moment.
An easy trial of the plan would be the introduction of a maximum wage in football. Let's all see how long it takes for the majority of premier league teams to lose all their players, or see them being paid in off shore image rights contracts instead. Much as the top earners are at the moment. | | | |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 23:32 - Jan 10 with 951 views | pikeypaul |
I was only joking love. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 00:18 - Jan 11 with 919 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 20:16 - Jan 10 by londonlisa2001 |
I agree with you that the gap between the rich and the poor is obscene. The problem is that the suggestion of a maximum wage is utterly stupid.
Firstly, you are, in effect, introducing a 100% tax rate. If a job is 'worth' say £1m a year at the moment, and a maximum salary is introduced of, say £400k (as an example, but based on a quick fag packet calculation of 20 times £20k since there are proposals for it to be calculated in such a way), then what you are really doing is taxing the amount above £400k at 100%. Would you bother?
Secondly all that would happen would be a restructuring of executive packages because of the first point. From salary to share awards. Because more profits would exist in the companies and they would pay them out as dividends. And they would give their execs more shares so paying them via dividends and also capital appreciation on the shares.
Thirdly companies would simply relocate their head office function, and employ their executives in a different country for tax purposes. They could keep their staff here, so no effect, but move their senior people if necessary. Or they would just relocate depending on the business, and lose lots of jobs.
Corbyn doesn't understand all this, which is a genuine problem. He has no ability to go from an idea, in this case, "we need to begin to close the gap in earnings" to actual ways to about it in the real world. [Post edited 10 Jan 2017 20:21]
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Exactly. Set up multiple entities globally, effectively negating the issue and screwing the UK tax coffers
Would sink this country overnight, unworkable. |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:36 - Jan 11 with 862 views | trampie |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 20:16 - Jan 10 by londonlisa2001 |
I agree with you that the gap between the rich and the poor is obscene. The problem is that the suggestion of a maximum wage is utterly stupid.
Firstly, you are, in effect, introducing a 100% tax rate. If a job is 'worth' say £1m a year at the moment, and a maximum salary is introduced of, say £400k (as an example, but based on a quick fag packet calculation of 20 times £20k since there are proposals for it to be calculated in such a way), then what you are really doing is taxing the amount above £400k at 100%. Would you bother?
Secondly all that would happen would be a restructuring of executive packages because of the first point. From salary to share awards. Because more profits would exist in the companies and they would pay them out as dividends. And they would give their execs more shares so paying them via dividends and also capital appreciation on the shares.
Thirdly companies would simply relocate their head office function, and employ their executives in a different country for tax purposes. They could keep their staff here, so no effect, but move their senior people if necessary. Or they would just relocate depending on the business, and lose lots of jobs.
Corbyn doesn't understand all this, which is a genuine problem. He has no ability to go from an idea, in this case, "we need to begin to close the gap in earnings" to actual ways to about it in the real world. [Post edited 10 Jan 2017 20:21]
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The pay that some people get like top bankers, police, teachers, doctors, footballers etc is an affront to humanity, its debauchery, its greed over need, high wages should be taxed very heavily. [Post edited 11 Jan 2017 13:37]
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:58 - Jan 11 with 849 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:36 - Jan 11 by trampie |
The pay that some people get like top bankers, police, teachers, doctors, footballers etc is an affront to humanity, its debauchery, its greed over need, high wages should be taxed very heavily. [Post edited 11 Jan 2017 13:37]
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If you raise the tax rate too high Trampie your tax take reduces. It has been proven time and time again.
If you raise the tax rate knowing that your tax take will reduce, then you are doing so not for the good of the country, public services etc, you are doing so as a symbol, to punish if you like. That's simply petulant, spiteful politics, and people will not vote for it unless they feel similarly inclined to punish. | | | |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:58 - Jan 11 with 845 views | rock1n |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 21:31 - Jan 10 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Magnificent post Bryn |
It's not a good post at all, in measurable terms the poorest in this Country are far more affluent than they've ever been. People on minimum wage in this Country are in the top 10% in the World in terms of wealth.
There are a wealth of opportunities out there, you just have to get off your backside and look for them and train.
The problem is with socialists is they want to bring everyone down to their level because they don't have any ambition and have pessimistic notion of what people can achieve.
This idea that it's global capitalism to blame for changes in the economy is laughable. It's automation, other Countries becoming more prosperous (as a result of capitalism) which means there is more competition.
You can't set the clock back, machines are doing much of the work these days that's the nature of the beast in 100 years time we might all be paid for doing nothing it's technology. The trick is to find something to replace what has since gone.
Socialists are the ultimate conservatives, they want to stop time but you can't things change, societal changes take place. People want to go on foreign holidays now, they want the luxuries in life, they want to eat out. We have become a lot richer and you just don't see it.
The bottom line is you can't stop time and unless you want Britain to start up an Empire again you can't stop other Countries like China developing. |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:01 - Jan 11 with 841 views | blueytheblue |
So a financial company with turnover, profits of how much exactly should award bosses bonuses akin to a packet of crisps and a can of coke. Gotcha. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:02 - Jan 11 with 839 views | rock1n |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:58 - Jan 11 by londonlisa2001 |
If you raise the tax rate too high Trampie your tax take reduces. It has been proven time and time again.
If you raise the tax rate knowing that your tax take will reduce, then you are doing so not for the good of the country, public services etc, you are doing so as a symbol, to punish if you like. That's simply petulant, spiteful politics, and people will not vote for it unless they feel similarly inclined to punish. |
Yep, it doesn't matter how many times this is highlighted people still believe this nonsense. If you're going to raise taxes on the rich it would have to be global. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:05 - Jan 11 with 833 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:01 - Jan 11 by blueytheblue |
So a financial company with turnover, profits of how much exactly should award bosses bonuses akin to a packet of crisps and a can of coke. Gotcha. |
How much Blue
how much do they really need
how much? | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:07 - Jan 11 with 831 views | blueytheblue |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 13:58 - Jan 11 by rock1n |
It's not a good post at all, in measurable terms the poorest in this Country are far more affluent than they've ever been. People on minimum wage in this Country are in the top 10% in the World in terms of wealth.
There are a wealth of opportunities out there, you just have to get off your backside and look for them and train.
The problem is with socialists is they want to bring everyone down to their level because they don't have any ambition and have pessimistic notion of what people can achieve.
This idea that it's global capitalism to blame for changes in the economy is laughable. It's automation, other Countries becoming more prosperous (as a result of capitalism) which means there is more competition.
You can't set the clock back, machines are doing much of the work these days that's the nature of the beast in 100 years time we might all be paid for doing nothing it's technology. The trick is to find something to replace what has since gone.
Socialists are the ultimate conservatives, they want to stop time but you can't things change, societal changes take place. People want to go on foreign holidays now, they want the luxuries in life, they want to eat out. We have become a lot richer and you just don't see it.
The bottom line is you can't stop time and unless you want Britain to start up an Empire again you can't stop other Countries like China developing. |
It's ironic this is magically an issue for Labour at a time when income inequality is at it's lowest in 30 years.
Which includes periods of Labour governments.
It's as though Corbyn is stuck in some bizarro 70s/80s parody of traditional Labour... "it's all the fault of the rich! burn them at the stake"... "errm, Jezza, you can't do that"... "ok, tax them at the stake!"
He's literally got zero clue whatsoever. No ideas, nothing more than soundbites and rhetoric with no substance behind whatsoever. Presumes the mass population of Britain is as dumb as his core followers. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:08 - Jan 11 with 831 views | rock1n |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:05 - Jan 11 by oh_tommy_tommy |
How much Blue
how much do they really need
how much? |
Why does it offend you what someone earns?
If someone earns more, they pay more tax which is more revenue for the treasury. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:11 - Jan 11 with 826 views | rock1n |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:07 - Jan 11 by blueytheblue |
It's ironic this is magically an issue for Labour at a time when income inequality is at it's lowest in 30 years.
Which includes periods of Labour governments.
It's as though Corbyn is stuck in some bizarro 70s/80s parody of traditional Labour... "it's all the fault of the rich! burn them at the stake"... "errm, Jezza, you can't do that"... "ok, tax them at the stake!"
He's literally got zero clue whatsoever. No ideas, nothing more than soundbites and rhetoric with no substance behind whatsoever. Presumes the mass population of Britain is as dumb as his core followers. |
Yep under the tories/coalition the rich are paying more - the facts are there for all to see but prejudice prevents people from seeing this.
Labour are talkers, always have been.
Sometimes I despair of this Country, we are a very strong, successful Country with a rich history and all you ever have is moaners because someone else is earning more than them.
Envy. I hate it. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:11 - Jan 11 with 826 views | blueytheblue |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:05 - Jan 11 by oh_tommy_tommy |
How much Blue
how much do they really need
how much? |
So renumeration should solely be based upon need then tommy?
Oh dear. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:13 - Jan 11 with 822 views | blueytheblue |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:11 - Jan 11 by rock1n |
Yep under the tories/coalition the rich are paying more - the facts are there for all to see but prejudice prevents people from seeing this.
Labour are talkers, always have been.
Sometimes I despair of this Country, we are a very strong, successful Country with a rich history and all you ever have is moaners because someone else is earning more than them.
Envy. I hate it. |
Indeed, I loved Owen Jones ages ago ranting about the income tax cuts benefitting the millionaires in the cabinet.
Andrew Neil asked him how many were earning a million a year.
Jones seemed flummoxed, diverted from his prepared rant. Didn't quite seem to grasp income tax is a tax upon, errm, income.
Empty rhetoric, never any real workable answers. | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:16 - Jan 11 with 818 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:08 - Jan 11 by rock1n |
Why does it offend you what someone earns?
If someone earns more, they pay more tax which is more revenue for the treasury. |
offended ?
Nah.
i dont give a f@ck how much you earn to be honest | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:17 - Jan 11 with 818 views | rock1n |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:13 - Jan 11 by blueytheblue |
Indeed, I loved Owen Jones ages ago ranting about the income tax cuts benefitting the millionaires in the cabinet.
Andrew Neil asked him how many were earning a million a year.
Jones seemed flummoxed, diverted from his prepared rant. Didn't quite seem to grasp income tax is a tax upon, errm, income.
Empty rhetoric, never any real workable answers. |
Yep, not even a simple understanding of how it works.
There are some millionaires in Cabinet, self made. I mean what an awful person, working hard getting an education setting up a business paying lots of tax.
Terrible, disgusting toffs | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:21 - Jan 11 with 814 views | jojaca |
Jeremy means well, just come out all wrong. There will be a revolution soon if the gap betwern rich and poor keeps growing. The company I work for are only employing new staff on 8 hour flexi contract, while the CEO is having seven figure shares bonus. |  |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:22 - Jan 11 with 813 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:11 - Jan 11 by blueytheblue |
So renumeration should solely be based upon need then tommy?
Oh dear. |
How much blue
how much ?? | |
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| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:23 - Jan 11 with 808 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Corbyn's jealousy shines on 14:21 - Jan 11 by jojaca |
Jeremy means well, just come out all wrong. There will be a revolution soon if the gap betwern rich and poor keeps growing. The company I work for are only employing new staff on 8 hour flexi contract, while the CEO is having seven figure shares bonus. |
Thats not a problem to the C'nts out there it doesnt matter. | |
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