2 questions 21:50 - Sep 28 with 5896 views | AguycalledJack | That you would like to ask coleman/ levine? Keep it respectful as they apparently read this site and may in some way respond. We can only hope. | | | | |
2 questions on 21:46 - Sep 29 with 1314 views | QJumpingJack | The next fans forum should have Ken, Kaplan, Jason and Andy all on stage together to take questions alongside the Trust and Luke. | | | |
2 questions on 10:31 - Sep 30 with 1202 views | johnlangy | One question will do for me. Steve Cooper is the best example having taken us to the play offs and play off final in two seasons. That proved what a good manager he was and showed that with some backing he could have gone one step further the following season. So my question would be, why do you have no faith in your own decisions ? | | | |
2 questions on 10:41 - Sep 30 with 1191 views | jack247 |
2 questions on 10:31 - Sep 30 by johnlangy | One question will do for me. Steve Cooper is the best example having taken us to the play offs and play off final in two seasons. That proved what a good manager he was and showed that with some backing he could have gone one step further the following season. So my question would be, why do you have no faith in your own decisions ? |
Great question I’d guess it’s because it’s run as a business not a football club and budgets don’t vary with circumstances | | | |
2 questions on 12:43 - Sep 30 with 1132 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions on 10:31 - Sep 30 by johnlangy | One question will do for me. Steve Cooper is the best example having taken us to the play offs and play off final in two seasons. That proved what a good manager he was and showed that with some backing he could have gone one step further the following season. So my question would be, why do you have no faith in your own decisions ? |
Cooper had Gyorkeres as a centre forward to be developed. All he needed was care and game time. He wanted Keinan Davis instead. The owners told he had Big Vic and they could not afford Davis. He claimed no backing. Levien was right Cooper was wrong. Fans wi never have it even with high sight. They support Copper by saying no fans overrated him either which is besides the point. | |
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2 questions on 14:03 - Sep 30 with 1098 views | QJumpingJack |
2 questions on 12:43 - Sep 30 by ReslovenSwan1 | Cooper had Gyorkeres as a centre forward to be developed. All he needed was care and game time. He wanted Keinan Davis instead. The owners told he had Big Vic and they could not afford Davis. He claimed no backing. Levien was right Cooper was wrong. Fans wi never have it even with high sight. They support Copper by saying no fans overrated him either which is besides the point. |
do you know the full story? do you know Victor's agent? | | | |
2 questions on 18:26 - Sep 30 with 1033 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions on 14:03 - Sep 30 by QJumpingJack | do you know the full story? do you know Victor's agent? |
No I have no inside track. It is a narrative. The forum has a narrative Cooper was not backed. He started the second season with two of Europe's great talents. Gyorkeres and Gibbs-White. G-W got injured but Levien still had to pay the bills and get him fit. If he was American fans would have called him a crock. Jordan Morris is having a great season in USA. Cooper was backed but failed. He is a manager and writes his own narrative. "I was not backed" [Post edited 30 Sep 18:26]
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2 questions on 18:38 - Sep 30 with 1008 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions on 21:46 - Sep 29 by QJumpingJack | The next fans forum should have Ken, Kaplan, Jason and Andy all on stage together to take questions alongside the Trust and Luke. |
Do the Trust turn up for these things? . The fourth guy at the last one was the commercial director who made a good fist of it. I suspect they will not be available for questions. They write their own history and no one dare contradict them. They represent the fans or the paying customers so have a free pass. When they look for a strategy instead of employing a consultant they ask the fans who are clueless. This is why they are shrinking to the 5% core and missed the boat when buyer were circling a Premier league success story. | |
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2 questions on 18:51 - Sep 30 with 977 views | Whiterockin |
2 questions on 18:38 - Sep 30 by ReslovenSwan1 | Do the Trust turn up for these things? . The fourth guy at the last one was the commercial director who made a good fist of it. I suspect they will not be available for questions. They write their own history and no one dare contradict them. They represent the fans or the paying customers so have a free pass. When they look for a strategy instead of employing a consultant they ask the fans who are clueless. This is why they are shrinking to the 5% core and missed the boat when buyer were circling a Premier league success story. |
I wonder if the incoming new owners do the decent thing and offer to buy the trusts shares, unlike the slimy last lot. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
2 questions on 19:52 - Sep 30 with 895 views | RhonddaSwans | Do you know any Saudi billionaires? If so can you let them know we are up for sale Where are Harry,Ben and Liams contracts? 😤 | |
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2 questions on 20:17 - Sep 30 with 881 views | QJumpingJack |
2 questions on 19:05 - Sep 30 by ReslovenSwan1 | The US people offered to buy the Trust shares. The Trust shares were not up for sale which suited the other owners perfectly. The Trust had not arranged their ducks after the 2015 approach because the smarter members were asleep. They had another go in 2017 but could not agree terms. The buyer lost patience and walked. All shareholders sold their shares except the Trust. [Post edited 30 Sep 22:10]
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source please? and you listened to the Trust fans forum with Mr Levien and Mr Kaplan where the former claimed that he was instructed not to engage with the Trust. It's on YouTube. [Post edited 30 Sep 20:20]
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2 questions on 21:21 - Sep 30 with 838 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions on 20:17 - Sep 30 by QJumpingJack | source please? and you listened to the Trust fans forum with Mr Levien and Mr Kaplan where the former claimed that he was instructed not to engage with the Trust. It's on YouTube. [Post edited 30 Sep 20:20]
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That was common sense. The Trust had stated their shares were not up for sale and never would be. That has no mandate from the members which they needed and that would take about a year. The Trust wanted the status quo. They needed to act but did not. The information is all available in contemporary press reports and he Trusts own statements. I have followed this matter and have come the the conclusion that committee's like this just drift aimlessly.becuase driving logical people are absent. Such people would be visible and positive. | |
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2 questions (n/t) on 21:33 - Sep 30 with 827 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions (n/t) on 21:08 - Sep 29 by jack247 | It’s a make believe world where Coleman and Levein bimble along merrily without discussing work. |
I can only speculate but this conversation is not wildly unrealistic. Jason. "Andy there are things going on over here with regards to new faces in the LLC. We do not want you to put you in the loop over this and we want your to focus on Welsh matters. We can assure you these changes will have no bearing on your of Kens position". | |
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2 questions (n/t) on 21:39 - Sep 30 with 810 views | Whiterockin |
2 questions (n/t) on 21:33 - Sep 30 by ReslovenSwan1 | I can only speculate but this conversation is not wildly unrealistic. Jason. "Andy there are things going on over here with regards to new faces in the LLC. We do not want you to put you in the loop over this and we want your to focus on Welsh matters. We can assure you these changes will have no bearing on your of Kens position". |
Except that the new faces will not be part of the LLC. | | | |
2 questions (n/t) on 22:20 - Sep 30 with 744 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions (n/t) on 21:39 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin | Except that the new faces will not be part of the LLC. |
It was a notional conversation. There has been debate about if the club has new owners would the new owners buy the club itself or buy the parent company the LLC. A new owner might want to take a majority holding and invest say £40m for 51%money the club could use. The LLC is based in Delaware which has secrecy laws similar to Switzerland. (I am not an expert on this). DC are friendly with some Saudis. They did a pre season tour | |
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2 questions on 07:17 - Oct 1 with 642 views | SullutaCreturned |
2 questions on 18:51 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin | I wonder if the incoming new owners do the decent thing and offer to buy the trusts shares, unlike the slimy last lot. |
Oh you naughty person you. I suspect a certain narrative will be wheeled out about the trust and fans and that more absolute nonsense will have been posted. | | | |
2 questions on 08:06 - Oct 1 with 615 views | QJumpingJack | perhaps someone can collate the best questions on this thread and then take it to the chairman in one of those one-to-one sessions he does with the fans? | | | |
2 questions (n/t) on 08:22 - Oct 1 with 604 views | jack247 |
2 questions (n/t) on 21:33 - Sep 30 by ReslovenSwan1 | I can only speculate but this conversation is not wildly unrealistic. Jason. "Andy there are things going on over here with regards to new faces in the LLC. We do not want you to put you in the loop over this and we want your to focus on Welsh matters. We can assure you these changes will have no bearing on your of Kens position". |
Yes, that is wildly unrealistic. He’s the chairman, their man on the ground in Swansea and you’re ’speculating’ they wouldn’t inform him of a potential sale. That would be absurd if he wasn’t an LLC shareholder. | | | |
2 questions on 08:40 - Oct 1 with 573 views | Fireboy2 | Wtf do people keep replying to him ffs 🙄 | | | |
2 questions on 09:07 - Oct 1 with 544 views | Whiterockin |
2 questions on 07:17 - Oct 1 by SullutaCreturned | Oh you naughty person you. I suspect a certain narrative will be wheeled out about the trust and fans and that more absolute nonsense will have been posted. |
Apparently when the new owners come in our first signing is going to be Viktor Gyokeres, he says he can't wait to come back and should never have left. The fact remains that if the recruitment team of the current owners were on the ball we could of had him for peanuts and a future sale would have recouped most of their initial investment. With the benefit of hindsight i wonder if there are other things the current owners would have done differently. [Post edited 1 Oct 9:09]
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2 questions on 09:08 - Oct 1 with 543 views | Whiterockin |
2 questions on 08:40 - Oct 1 by Fireboy2 | Wtf do people keep replying to him ffs 🙄 |
Let us play, it's like a kitten with a mouse. | | | |
2 questions on 09:40 - Oct 1 with 496 views | Fireboy2 |
2 questions on 09:08 - Oct 1 by Whiterockin | Let us play, it's like a kitten with a mouse. |
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah a senile old one. | | | |
2 questions on 09:52 - Oct 1 with 488 views | onehunglow | Senility is no laughing matter . Alzheimer’s too nasty a word Poor Think [Post edited 1 Oct 9:52]
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2 questions on 15:36 - Oct 1 with 354 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
2 questions on 08:40 - Oct 1 by Fireboy2 | Wtf do people keep replying to him ffs 🙄 |
Why do you not mind your own business? I am a decent person and would never attempt to block free speech. I disagreed with a number of people but am prepared to debate. We did this in my secondary school. In democracies different view are not only tolerated but encouraged. A lack of debate failed the Trust. Back in 2015 none of the 1000 members demanded they consider selling at least some of their shares. [Post edited 1 Oct 15:38]
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