| Mansion Tax 19:40 - Mar 28 with 9962 views | union_jack |
Not sure how much sympathy i will get here, but Labour's proposal of a mansion tax is a cheap shot IMO.
Have they not heard of 'asset rich, cash poor?' |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 20:02 - Mar 28 with 2985 views | Private_Partz |
Indeed there are such people and I hope they are dealt with sympathetically. Unlike the the asset poor and cash poor who have been hammered by the Tories. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 20:26 - Mar 28 with 2962 views | union_jack |
| Mansion Tax on 20:02 - Mar 28 by Private_Partz |
Indeed there are such people and I hope they are dealt with sympathetically. Unlike the the asset poor and cash poor who have been hammered by the Tories. |
That's the point. There'll be no sympathy. To keep administration costs down it will be applied universally.
I get what you are saying about the other group. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 20:50 - Mar 28 with 2929 views | WarwickHunt |
| Mansion Tax on 20:26 - Mar 28 by union_jack |
That's the point. There'll be no sympathy. To keep administration costs down it will be applied universally.
I get what you are saying about the other group. |
Sounds like something a bunch of earnest sixth formers would come up with after a few cans of 'Bow and some skunk.
Votes for 16 year olds is another cracker. F*ck me gently.
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| Mansion Tax on 21:00 - Mar 28 with 2905 views | union_jack |
Let's be honest, it's a vote catcher. Appeal to the porer by shoeing they are fleecing the 'rich'. However, those with valuable property are not necessarily rich. In fact, quite the opposite outside of London - and even then! | |
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| Mansion Tax on 21:30 - Mar 28 with 2874 views | dgt73 |
| Mansion Tax on 21:25 - Mar 28 by WarwickHunt |
You edited that and still couldn't get it right?
F*ckwit. |
How someone who just admitted voting labour all his life has the gall to call someone else a fcukwit is beyond me......  |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 21:33 - Mar 28 with 2864 views | WarwickHunt |
| Mansion Tax on 21:30 - Mar 28 by dgt73 |
How someone who just admitted voting labour all his life has the gall to call someone else a fcukwit is beyond me...... |
Colour me surprised.
Most things seem to be beyond you. | | | |
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| Mansion Tax on 21:35 - Mar 28 with 2862 views | Lohengrin |
What immediately struck me as unfair about the proposal is that people have little control over the value of their home. Take for instance an elderly couple who have lived in the same house for sixty years that just happens to be in a part of east London undergoing a process of gentrification. Chances are their house value will have sky-rocketed and could land them with monthly bills they are ill-prepared to meet.
It's Students Union politics with jealousy and bitterness at the root of it. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 21:36 - Mar 28 with 2861 views | dgt73 |
| Mansion Tax on 21:33 - Mar 28 by WarwickHunt |
Colour me surprised.
Most things seem to be beyond you. |
Never mind you keep on voting labour......ba..ba.. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 21:51 - Mar 28 with 2842 views | Dr_Winston |
| Mansion Tax on 21:35 - Mar 28 by Lohengrin |
What immediately struck me as unfair about the proposal is that people have little control over the value of their home. Take for instance an elderly couple who have lived in the same house for sixty years that just happens to be in a part of east London undergoing a process of gentrification. Chances are their house value will have sky-rocketed and could land them with monthly bills they are ill-prepared to meet.
It's Students Union politics with jealousy and bitterness at the root of it. |
It's Socialist politics. Jealousy and bitterness are essential factors. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:08 - Mar 28 with 2792 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mansion Tax on 21:51 - Mar 28 by Dr_Winston |
It's Socialist politics. Jealousy and bitterness are essential factors. |
As opposed to Tory policies where demonising the less fortunate and trite cliches about socialism are all the rage? Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss.
The mansion tax is fine by me. It's symbolic and will affect few. I'm not about to shed tears for the asset rich/cash poor. As Private Partz has already pointed out, no ne has given a sh*t about the cash poor/asset poor over this past five years. So I'm not about to shed any tears for anyone who may be eligible to pay this gimmicky tax
I'd also extend the franchise to 16 year olds. If you want up engage kids in their own futures, let them have a say. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:19 - Mar 28 with 2781 views | Lohengrin |
| Mansion Tax on 23:08 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
As opposed to Tory policies where demonising the less fortunate and trite cliches about socialism are all the rage? Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss.
The mansion tax is fine by me. It's symbolic and will affect few. I'm not about to shed tears for the asset rich/cash poor. As Private Partz has already pointed out, no ne has given a sh*t about the cash poor/asset poor over this past five years. So I'm not about to shed any tears for anyone who may be eligible to pay this gimmicky tax
I'd also extend the franchise to 16 year olds. If you want up engage kids in their own futures, let them have a say. |
Sixteen's too young, Clase. Most at that age haven't experienced the working world, haven't seen enough of life to attain informed opinion.
...of course the same could be said of some far older, I suppose. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:22 - Mar 28 with 2777 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Mansion Tax on 23:08 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
As opposed to Tory policies where demonising the less fortunate and trite cliches about socialism are all the rage? Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss.
The mansion tax is fine by me. It's symbolic and will affect few. I'm not about to shed tears for the asset rich/cash poor. As Private Partz has already pointed out, no ne has given a sh*t about the cash poor/asset poor over this past five years. So I'm not about to shed any tears for anyone who may be eligible to pay this gimmicky tax
I'd also extend the franchise to 16 year olds. If you want up engage kids in their own futures, let them have a say. |
As opposed to the Socialist policies whereby 'anyone earning more than me is a theiving b@stard and must be taxed to the hilt so they can pay for everyone elses shortcomings'.
The mansion tax willl affect more than a few.
And most 16 yr olds cant even tie their own shoelaces. Give them a vote? Theyll think Simon fcking Cowell is up for election. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:25 - Mar 28 with 2772 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mansion Tax on 23:22 - Mar 28 by PozuelosSideys |
As opposed to the Socialist policies whereby 'anyone earning more than me is a theiving b@stard and must be taxed to the hilt so they can pay for everyone elses shortcomings'.
The mansion tax willl affect more than a few.
And most 16 yr olds cant even tie their own shoelaces. Give them a vote? Theyll think Simon fcking Cowell is up for election. |
Your first sentence says more about your world view than it does about modern "socialism". Such as it is these days. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:28 - Mar 28 with 2767 views | Lohengrin |
| Mansion Tax on 23:25 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
Your first sentence says more about your world view than it does about modern "socialism". Such as it is these days. |
"Modern" socialism? Don't tell me the leopard is thinking of changing spots, Clase.  | |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:34 - Mar 28 with 2763 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mansion Tax on 23:28 - Mar 28 by Lohengrin |
"Modern" socialism? Don't tell me the leopard is thinking of changing spots, Clase. |
I doubt it. Socialism is and always has been about fair distribution of wealth. I doubt you object to that principle. Modern socialism for me at least is trying to raise that principle above the low denomimator that is modern political discourse. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 23:51 - Mar 28 with 2749 views | Lohengrin |
| Mansion Tax on 23:34 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
I doubt it. Socialism is and always has been about fair distribution of wealth. I doubt you object to that principle. Modern socialism for me at least is trying to raise that principle above the low denomimator that is modern political discourse. |
I don't object to that principle in the slightest, Clase. In fact I'm prepared to bet I've probably got more of the classic tracts of Distributism sat here on my bookshelves than the rest of the board put together but that, to my and countless other minds, isn't what Socialism is about. It has never been about social justice or any of the other wishfully thought claims made on its behalf. It's a totalitarian ideology that seeks to replace freedom of thought, conscience and action with the drudgery of ant-heap collectivism.
I doubt you'd have enjoyed life very much behind the old iron curtain. You like arguing too much. The People's Commissars would have taken a dim view of that, Comrade...  | |
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| Mansion Tax on 00:33 - Mar 29 with 2729 views | skippyjack |
The Conservatives are not targeting the poor anymore.. It's a myth.. |  |
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| Mansion Tax on 07:42 - Mar 29 with 2704 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mansion Tax on 00:33 - Mar 29 by skippyjack |
The Conservatives are not targeting the poor anymore.. It's a myth.. |
You're a myth and your schtick is boring. Needs more work, no one cares anymore and you're not getting the reactions you want/need. | |
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| Mansion Tax on 08:41 - Mar 29 with 2690 views | exiledclaseboy |
I see Starsky was on the babycham shandies last night.  | |
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| Mansion Tax on 08:46 - Mar 29 with 2686 views | 3swan |
| Mansion Tax on 23:08 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
As opposed to Tory policies where demonising the less fortunate and trite cliches about socialism are all the rage? Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss.
The mansion tax is fine by me. It's symbolic and will affect few. I'm not about to shed tears for the asset rich/cash poor. As Private Partz has already pointed out, no ne has given a sh*t about the cash poor/asset poor over this past five years. So I'm not about to shed any tears for anyone who may be eligible to pay this gimmicky tax
I'd also extend the franchise to 16 year olds. If you want up engage kids in their own futures, let them have a say. |
"Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss. "
Sorry A I think that's a slightly biased view, bitterness comes from both end s of the political spectrum. Also 16yr olds deciding on the future? Some will be switched on but many ( I think most) will either not vote or just follow the views of parents |  | | |
| Mansion Tax on 08:50 - Mar 29 with 2674 views | acejack3065 |
| Mansion Tax on 00:33 - Mar 29 by skippyjack |
The Conservatives are not targeting the poor anymore.. It's a myth.. |
What the f**k is the bedroom tax all about then? |  | | |
| Mansion Tax on 08:51 - Mar 29 with 2670 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mansion Tax on 08:46 - Mar 29 by 3swan |
"Most of the bitterness in British politics lies on the right who remain convinced that everyone on benefits is taking the piss. "
Sorry A I think that's a slightly biased view, bitterness comes from both end s of the political spectrum. Also 16yr olds deciding on the future? Some will be switched on but many ( I think most) will either not vote or just follow the views of parents |
I don't deny it's biased. All opinions are biased. Don't agree about 16 year olds either.
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| Mansion Tax on 08:53 - Mar 29 with 2659 views | Dr_Winston |
| Mansion Tax on 08:50 - Mar 29 by acejack3065 |
What the f**k is the bedroom tax all about then? |
There is no such thing as a bedroom tax. There is however an end to people receiving a rent subsidy for a larger property than they need.
Happy to clear that up for you. | |
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