| The Tories Are Bonkers! 08:51 - Dec 12 with 45777 views | BostonR |
Have been in the US since the summer and arrived back this week and going to the game on Sat.
I have watched the carnage in the US political system, but that was evened-out in the mid-term elections. Watching the madness this morning, it looks like a Tory coup by the ERG and other right-wing nut-cases.
I am no Tory, but May has to see them off before they throw this country under the bus! |  | | |  |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:05 - Dec 17 with 2377 views | daveB |
I just want it over with, i don't care if we leave or remain anymore, i just don't want to hear the word brexit when i put the news on in the morning |  | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:14 - Dec 17 with 2355 views | loftboy |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:05 - Dec 17 by daveB |
I just want it over with, i don't care if we leave or remain anymore, i just don't want to hear the word brexit when i put the news on in the morning |
Being highly suspicious of anyone in Westminster a large part of me is thinking that this chaos has been engineered between Brussels and Westminster to make leaving nigh on impossible thus returning to the status quo as it’s the only viable option. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 14:05]
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:37 - Dec 17 with 2330 views | kensalriser |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 21:44 - Dec 17 by PunteR |
Ive still no idea whats best. Stay or leave. I really dont think things will be as bad as the remainers say but i also think things wasnt that bad to justify leaving. This is just turning into some sort of bitter divorce. There's going to be no winners here. Wars start for less. The uk is getting more and more divided. Its horrible to witness.
Ive got zero confidence in any political party. They're all a shambles. I wont be voting. |
No winners = nail on head. |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 23:29 - Dec 17 with 2290 views | traininvain |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:14 - Dec 17 by loftboy |
Being highly suspicious of anyone in Westminster a large part of me is thinking that this chaos has been engineered between Brussels and Westminster to make leaving nigh on impossible thus returning to the status quo as it’s the only viable option. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 14:05]
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Nothing to do with it being a very complicated issue which is almost impossible to make more than 25% of voters happy.
I’ve seen leavers saying they want to remain in the single market whilst some remainers want tighter control on immigration.
The good news for you is the majority seem unhappy with the current situation so we can all be miserable together. |  | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 23:59 - Dec 17 with 2266 views | PunteR |
Ha.. Except i've made a decision to remain neutral. |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 10:15 - Dec 18 with 2162 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:14 - Dec 17 by loftboy |
Being highly suspicious of anyone in Westminster a large part of me is thinking that this chaos has been engineered between Brussels and Westminster to make leaving nigh on impossible thus returning to the status quo as it’s the only viable option. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 14:05]
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Yes they have, as I said before done everything to derail |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 12:05 - Dec 18 with 2136 views | QPR_John |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 22:14 - Dec 17 by loftboy |
Being highly suspicious of anyone in Westminster a large part of me is thinking that this chaos has been engineered between Brussels and Westminster to make leaving nigh on impossible thus returning to the status quo as it’s the only viable option. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 14:05]
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It's the only scenario that makes sense. |  | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 12:13 - Dec 18 with 2121 views | QPR_Jim |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 12:05 - Dec 18 by QPR_John |
It's the only scenario that makes sense. |
It makes sense but only if you completely ignore the possibility that Brexit more complicated than prominent leavers were making out. |  | | |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 13:26 - Dec 18 with 2048 views | BasingstokeR |
Ockham's razor;
1. Conspiracy theory type explanation
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2. Hugely complex task; questionable competency politicians driving the process |  | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 14:04 - Dec 18 with 2016 views | derbyhoop |
If anybody wants to know how we got to this place try reading this from Sir Ivan Rogers, formerly the UK ambassador to the EU. Until he resigned because politicians couldn't accept diplomats talking truth to power.
https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/ |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 15:06 - Dec 18 with 1974 views | PinnerPaul |
OK after nearly 400 posts and 15,000 views can we all at least agree on the fact that THE most ridiculous slogan that can still be seen is 'No deal, no problem' !!!!!!!!!!!! | | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 15:16 - Dec 18 with 1960 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:00 - Dec 18 with 1911 views | johncharles |
After more than two years bickering and billions of pounds spent it looks like we’re heading for a
“No Deal”. How Bloody Marvellous.
The only thing we’ve made so far is enemies |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:24 - Dec 18 with 1873 views | runningman75 |
Looking forward to this no deal scenario with It It Ain't Half Hot Mum and Dad's Army played on a repeated loop. | | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:24 - Dec 18 with 1872 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:00 - Dec 18 by johncharles |
After more than two years bickering and billions of pounds spent it looks like we’re heading for a
“No Deal”. How Bloody Marvellous.
The only thing we’ve made so far is enemies |
Not wanting to be part of a "club" makes you enemies.
Then maybe those so-called "friends" are not the right sort of friends.
As far as I can see it's the EU that has been hostile about us leaving, they are the ones making all the threats. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 16:24]
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:27 - Dec 18 with 1859 views | Cliff |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 16:24 - Dec 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Not wanting to be part of a "club" makes you enemies.
Then maybe those so-called "friends" are not the right sort of friends.
As far as I can see it's the EU that has been hostile about us leaving, they are the ones making all the threats. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 16:24]
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What threats are they?
The most problems I see are the divides opening up in our own society |  | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:03 - Dec 18 with 1814 views | hopphoops |
He states the obvious with brutal clarity. It can only be l'appel du vide which drives even the most slightly objective leaver. |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:26 - Dec 18 with 1779 views | Sharpy36 |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:11 - Dec 18 by Cliff |
I take it you feel the country has all pulled together on this one then  |
One side has. |  |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:35 - Dec 18 with 1746 views | loftboy |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:11 - Dec 18 by Cliff |
I take it you feel the country has all pulled together on this one then |
Maybe if the remain camp backed the result then May would have had the upper hand in the negotiations instead of going into them trying to please both sides and ending up pleasing neither. | |
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| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:48 - Dec 18 with 1716 views | traininvain |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:35 - Dec 18 by loftboy |
Maybe if the remain camp backed the result then May would have had the upper hand in the negotiations instead of going into them trying to please both sides and ending up pleasing neither. |
It’s always someone else’s fault. Unhappy with your life- blame the EU. Not getting the Brexit deal you wanted- blame Theresa May or better yet those who didn’t want any part of this mess in the first place.
Pointing the finger of blame seems to be a common theme amongst leave voters. | | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:57 - Dec 18 with 1700 views | Cliff |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:26 - Dec 18 by Sharpy36 |
One side has. |
I take it this is an attempt at humour? | | | |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:58 - Dec 18 with 1696 views | Cliff |
| The Tories Are Bonkers! on 17:28 - Dec 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
No, the remainers are still crying over the result. [Post edited 18 Dec 2018 17:29]
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... and all you leavers are fully behind the deal we have been offered? | | | |
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