| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links 14:53 - Aug 4 with 47192 views | Kerouac |
So here's the idea, I'll update the squad as the transfer window progresses regarding ins and outs, I'll also add all players that we have been linked with at the bottom.
We could use this one thread to discuss transfer targets as we go along and watch the squad for next season take shape.
SQUAD
Manager
Steve Cooper
Goalkeeper
13) Steven Benda
1) Freddie Woodman - LOAN (Newcastle)
Right-Back
23) Connor Roberts
26) Kyle Naughton
Left-Back
24) Jake Bidwell
??) Ryan Manning - £250k (QPR)
Centre-Back
5) Marc Guehi - LOAN (Chelsea)
2) Ryan Bennett - £Free? (Wolves)
44) Ben Cabango
22) Joel Latibeaudiere - £Free (Man City)
Defensive Midfield
6) Jay Fulton
7) Korey Smith - £Free (Bristol City)
30) Tiv Rushesha
Centre Midfield
8) Matt Grimes
11) Morgan Gibbs-White - LOAN (Wolves)
Attacking Midfield
45) Kasey Palmer - LOAN (Bristol City)
28) George Byers
21) Yan Dhanda
Right-Wing
10) Andre Ayew
41) Jordan Garrick
Left-Wing
9) Jamal Lowe - £800k (Wigan)
15) Wayne Routledge
Striker
14) Viktor Gyokeres - LOAN (Brighton)
20) Liam Cullen
Most promising youngsters that haven't had a go yet...
27) James Searle (Goalkeeper)
31) Oli Cooper (Attacking midfield)
37) Daniel Williams (Midfielder)
38) Cameron Evans (Defender)
42) Lewis Webb (Goalkeeper)
??) Joe Lewis (Right back)
??) Jordi Govea (Left back)
Players Definitely going, either released or loaned...
Declan John
TRANSFERS IN - £1.05m - and 6 senior wages + 4 young loan player's wages (or a % of their wage at least) + 1 U23 player's wages.
1) Freddie Woodman - Loan (17/8/2020)
2) Korey Smith - Free (17/8/2020)
3) Marc Guehi - LOAN (25/8/2020)
4) Morgan Gibbs-White - LOAN (25/8/2020)
5) Jamal Lowe - £800k + add ons (26/8/2020)
6) James Searle - Free (GK for the U23s)
7) Viktor Gyokeres - LOAN (2/10/2020)
8) Joel Latibeaudiere - £Free Transfer (Man City)
9) Kasey Palmer - LOAN (16/10/20)
10) Ryan Bennett - £Free(?) (16/10/20)
11) Ryan Manning - £250k (16/10/20)
TRANSFERS OUT/RELEASED - £18.4m and 8 senior wages + 1 smaller wage off the books
1) Erwin Mulder - Free (Joined Heerenveen)
2) Mike Van der Hoorn - Free (Joined Arminia Bielefeld in the Bundesliga)
3) Courtney Baker-Richardson - Free
4) Tom Carroll - Free (Joined QPR)
5) Nathan Dyer - Released?
6) Bersant Celina - £3m ish (Joined Dijon)
7) Barrie McKay - Loaned to Fleetwood (not coming back)
8) Kristoffer Peterson - £400K (Joined Fortuna Dusseldorf)
9) Joe Rodon - £15m - (Joined Spurs)
OUT ON LOAN
1) Brandon Cooper - Loaned to Newport County (League 2)
2) Jack Evans - Loaned to Pafos FC (Cypriot top flight)
3) Joel Asoro - Loaned to Genoa (Serie A)
4) Barrie McKay - Loaned to Fleetwood (League 1)
5) Josh Gould - Loaned to Barry Town (Cymru Premier)
Players we have been linked with in the press
Centre-back - Derrick Williams - £?????
Centre-back - Nathaniel Phillips - £1m
Centre-back - Mathieu Peybernes - £1m-ish (Almeria)
Centre-back - Cameron Carter-Vickers - LOAN / Low transfer fee (Spurs)
Right-back - Kieron Freeman - £Free
Right-back - Gabriel Osho - £Free
Left-back - Brad Smith - £Free
Centre-Midfield - Kevin Stewart - £Free
Attacking Midfield/Winger/Centre-Midfield - Harry Wilson - £Loan (Liverpool)
Winger - Corey Blackett-Taylor - under £100k (Tranmere)
Striker - Leon Dajaku - LOAN (Bayern Munich)
Striker - Joe Piggott - £200k (Wimbledon)
Striker - Fabio Borini - £Free Agent
Transfers we were linked with in the press but didn't sign
Grant Hall (Centre-back) - Signed for 'Boro on a free
Gethin Jones (Right-back) - Signed for Bolton Wanderers on a free
Jonathan Bond (Goalkeeper) - Signed a 1yr extension with WBA
David Cornell (Goalkeeper) - Signed for Ipswich Town on a free
George Friend (Left-back) - Signed for Birmingham City on a free
Jordan Ibe (Winger) - Signed for Derby County on a free
Samuel Grandsir (Winger) - Signed for Real Valladolid for £2.3m
James Garner (Centre-Midfield) - Loaned to Watford
Charlie Kelman (Striker) - Signed for QPR £850k?
Daniel Ayala (Centre-back) - Signed on Free for Blackburn Rovers(3yr deal)
Macauley Bonne (Striker) - Signed for QPR - £Undisclosed
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:21 - Aug 23 with 2830 views | Gwyn737 |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:08 - Aug 23 by Kerouac |
As the squad begins to take shape it strikes me that we should release or sell the following 4/5 players;
- Declan John
- Nathan Dyer
- Barrie McKay
- Joel Asoro
- I'd also consider selling Peterson as I don't believe he is good enough (would love to be proved wrong though) and should be replaced by Jamal Lowe.
...and bring in the following;
- 2 x Centre-backs, 1 permanent and experienced, plus 1 youngster on loan (Guehi if possible)
- 1 x Left-back (ideally somebody on a free that can give Bidwell a run for his money)
- 1 x Winger/Utility Forward - Jamal Lowe
- 1 x Striker (An exciting young talent on loan)
I know, wishful thinking, but if we could do something like this I believe we will have a good chance next season. |
Reckon you’re pretty close there. Bit bit of work to do with not much time though... |  | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:50 - Aug 23 with 2808 views | Kerouac |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:21 - Aug 23 by Gwyn737 |
Reckon you’re pretty close there. Bit bit of work to do with not much time though... |
Would like to see the first team look something like this;
--------------------------------- Benda --------------------------
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-------- Exp. Signing ------ Cabango ------ Rodon --------
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Roberts -------- Gibbs-White ---- Grimes ------- Bidwell
-------------------------------- Celina ----------------------------
--------------- Ayew -------------------------- Lowe -----------
Bench: Woodman, Guehi, Naughton, Smith, Routledge, Kalulu, Loan Striker/Cullen. | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:53 - Aug 23 with 2803 views | Gwyn737 |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:50 - Aug 23 by Kerouac |
Would like to see the first team look something like this;
--------------------------------- Benda --------------------------
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-------- Exp. Signing ------ Cabango ------ Rodon --------
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Roberts -------- Gibbs-White ---- Grimes ------- Bidwell
-------------------------------- Celina ----------------------------
--------------- Ayew -------------------------- Lowe -----------
Bench: Woodman, Guehi, Naughton, Smith, Routledge, Kalulu, Loan Striker/Cullen. |
It’ll be Woodman in goal I’d expect.
Love to see Celina back in that role though. | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 00:19 - Aug 24 with 2782 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:50 - Aug 23 by Kerouac |
Would like to see the first team look something like this;
--------------------------------- Benda --------------------------
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-------- Exp. Signing ------ Cabango ------ Rodon --------
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Roberts -------- Gibbs-White ---- Grimes ------- Bidwell
-------------------------------- Celina ----------------------------
--------------- Ayew -------------------------- Lowe -----------
Bench: Woodman, Guehi, Naughton, Smith, Routledge, Kalulu, Loan Striker/Cullen. |
Corey Smith may well get the captaincy. I doubt he’ll be on the bench whatever cooper decides |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 01:41 - Aug 24 with 2771 views | hobo |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:50 - Aug 23 by Kerouac |
Would like to see the first team look something like this;
--------------------------------- Benda --------------------------
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-------- Exp. Signing ------ Cabango ------ Rodon --------
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Roberts -------- Gibbs-White ---- Grimes ------- Bidwell
-------------------------------- Celina ----------------------------
--------------- Ayew -------------------------- Lowe -----------
Bench: Woodman, Guehi, Naughton, Smith, Routledge, Kalulu, Loan Striker/Cullen. |
Really can't see us wanting to re-sign Kalulu. Shown nothing all season |  | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 11:23 - Aug 24 with 2596 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 18:57 - Aug 23 by Badlands |
To me it suggests Cooper has little self belief that he can work with adults. |
Perhaps that is because they can see through his reputation and understand how limited he is as a game manager. | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:06 - Aug 24 with 2565 views | Whiterockin |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 18:57 - Aug 23 by Badlands |
To me it suggests Cooper has little self belief that he can work with adults. |
Or the club are not prepared to buy experienced players and we have to loan good quality youngsters. [Post edited 24 Aug 2020 12:24]
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:33 - Aug 24 with 2529 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Im a little bit concerned (as my old boss used to say) that almost all transfer rumours have the stamp of Mr Cooper on them and not Mr Scott. I was hoping Mr Scott would be bringing in 3 or 4 unknown Europeans and lower league diamonds in. |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 18:41 - Aug 24 with 2379 views | Chief |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:33 - Aug 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Im a little bit concerned (as my old boss used to say) that almost all transfer rumours have the stamp of Mr Cooper on them and not Mr Scott. I was hoping Mr Scott would be bringing in 3 or 4 unknown Europeans and lower league diamonds in. |
Yea, are there any players we've signed that could have Scott's fingerprints on them? Kalulu?
Sweet job that, suggest players now and again that you know the club won't spend the money to sign. Very little pressure or accountability. |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 23:51 - Aug 24 with 2231 views | AndyCole |
McKay will now be doing his perennial flatter to deceive show, looking as shiny and sleek as his new Supercharged silver Range Rover. (Silver fox in the box is what we need though).
The coaching team will be falling for this, and with only 1 more year on his contract, he will feature, for a bit.
Peterson is here to stay, will be given a fair crack. Could be a long termer. Needs to get up to speed quickly post-quarantine, which ends in a few days for him.
Smith and Grimes pairing could be unrivalled in this league. Mouthwatering. | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 01:22 - Aug 25 with 2203 views | jasper_T |
Not sure how a player who Bristol City let go because he wasn't in their first team plans could be part of an "unrivalled" partnership in this division. Stranger things have happened I suppose. | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 01:26 - Aug 25 with 2202 views | Kerouac |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 01:22 - Aug 25 by jasper_T |
Not sure how a player who Bristol City let go because he wasn't in their first team plans could be part of an "unrivalled" partnership in this division. Stranger things have happened I suppose. |
I was thinking the exact same thing 
Hope he does well (when he plays) and stays fit though. | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 06:44 - Aug 25 with 2184 views | NotLoyal |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 01:22 - Aug 25 by jasper_T |
Not sure how a player who Bristol City let go because he wasn't in their first team plans could be part of an "unrivalled" partnership in this division. Stranger things have happened I suppose. |
I do remember a mate saying ( Bristol City fan ) that Smith tried to play too much football at times, maybe he has found a side with people who can also pass the ball. |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 08:53 - Aug 25 with 2126 views | Badlands |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:33 - Aug 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Im a little bit concerned (as my old boss used to say) that almost all transfer rumours have the stamp of Mr Cooper on them and not Mr Scott. I was hoping Mr Scott would be bringing in 3 or 4 unknown Europeans and lower league diamonds in. |
Don't forget his background is with players of school age and it seems he is more comfortable but not necessarily good at working with less players with less experience of the game and life. |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 10:34 - Aug 25 with 2067 views | dobjack2 |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:33 - Aug 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Im a little bit concerned (as my old boss used to say) that almost all transfer rumours have the stamp of Mr Cooper on them and not Mr Scott. I was hoping Mr Scott would be bringing in 3 or 4 unknown Europeans and lower league diamonds in. |
It would appear to be the short term part of the plan to get players that Cooper knows in on loan. Bristol City appear to be going down a similar route with their assistant manager appointments.
When the players Cooper knows runs out then we will be relying more heavily on scouting young talent from top clubs. As long as loanees have been successfully developed then clubs will be happy to send us more.
A lot also depends on what we are doing with our own youngsters and are they good enough for the division we are in.
The strategy appears to be a blend of youth, ours and others, along with not spending more on transfers and wages than we can afford in order to keep the club financially sustainable and competitive.
Presumably Scott has a role in all of thIs; it may not be the one that you expected/hoped for though and would be dependant on finances. | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 12:49 - Aug 25 with 1983 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 08:53 - Aug 25 by Badlands |
Don't forget his background is with players of school age and it seems he is more comfortable but not necessarily good at working with less players with less experience of the game and life. |
Seems he worked okay with ayew, mcnaughton, routledge all adults. | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:08 - Aug 25 with 1949 views | Brynmill_Jack |
We could start with Smith playing CDM and Captain, Morgan Gibbs White ahead of him and Celina at number ten. A solid spine with the options of adding Grimes , Fulton and Dhanda.
Defensively yes maybe one more full back (preferably a wing back if we’re sticking to 3-5-2) may do it. With Naughton able to cover if Guehi/Rodon/Cabango get injured .
We should go balls out for Brewster. His class is undeniable and if played for the whole season avoiding injuries he’s got 25 plus goals in him. If Ayew stays all the better but if we get some coin for him we should be able to buy decent support for Brewster. I bet Routledge playing around him would also work if needs be. | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:23 - Aug 25 with 1915 views | theloneranger |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 18:57 - Aug 23 by Badlands |
To me it suggests Cooper has little self belief that he can work with adults. |
Any player he signs 18+, is an adult. |  |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:32 - Aug 25 with 1905 views | jasper_T |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:08 - Aug 25 by Brynmill_Jack |
We could start with Smith playing CDM and Captain, Morgan Gibbs White ahead of him and Celina at number ten. A solid spine with the options of adding Grimes , Fulton and Dhanda.
Defensively yes maybe one more full back (preferably a wing back if we’re sticking to 3-5-2) may do it. With Naughton able to cover if Guehi/Rodon/Cabango get injured .
We should go balls out for Brewster. His class is undeniable and if played for the whole season avoiding injuries he’s got 25 plus goals in him. If Ayew stays all the better but if we get some coin for him we should be able to buy decent support for Brewster. I bet Routledge playing around him would also work if needs be. |
Why would dropping Grimes for Smith improve us? How does Gibbs-White in centre midfield make us solid? Why not play McKay in goal while we're at it? | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:45 - Aug 25 with 1885 views | Martyrman57 |
Why isn’t Jasoer T our manager. We would be Champions League material then. | | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:52 - Aug 25 with 1873 views | jasper_T |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:45 - Aug 25 by Martyrman57 |
Why isn’t Jasoer T our manager. We would be Champions League material then. |
If Cooper drops Grimes I'll gladly accept the job when he's sacked in November.
Gibbs-White has a reputation as a bit of a Celina/McKay-type not fulfilling defensive responsibilities. [Post edited 25 Aug 2020 13:53]
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 15:24 - Aug 25 with 1822 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:52 - Aug 25 by jasper_T |
If Cooper drops Grimes I'll gladly accept the job when he's sacked in November.
Gibbs-White has a reputation as a bit of a Celina/McKay-type not fulfilling defensive responsibilities. [Post edited 25 Aug 2020 13:53]
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So perhaps you need a stronger player than Grimes behind him then ?? | |
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| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 15:25 - Aug 25 with 1818 views | KGriz16 |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:08 - Aug 25 by Brynmill_Jack |
We could start with Smith playing CDM and Captain, Morgan Gibbs White ahead of him and Celina at number ten. A solid spine with the options of adding Grimes , Fulton and Dhanda.
Defensively yes maybe one more full back (preferably a wing back if we’re sticking to 3-5-2) may do it. With Naughton able to cover if Guehi/Rodon/Cabango get injured .
We should go balls out for Brewster. His class is undeniable and if played for the whole season avoiding injuries he’s got 25 plus goals in him. If Ayew stays all the better but if we get some coin for him we should be able to buy decent support for Brewster. I bet Routledge playing around him would also work if needs be. |
Grimes is one of, if not, the best footballer at the club. |  | | |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 15:27 - Aug 25 with 1816 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ins & Outs + Squad Updates and Transfer links on 13:32 - Aug 25 by jasper_T |
Why would dropping Grimes for Smith improve us? How does Gibbs-White in centre midfield make us solid? Why not play McKay in goal while we're at it? |
That’s an idiotic post to be fair. How do you possibly say playing McKay (a winger) in goals to replacing Grimes (a non CDM) with Smith (a bona fife CDM)?
Have a word with yourself mun | |
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