| Welsh Team a joke 21:12 - Sep 6 with 34576 views | SgorioFruit |
ok well i can't blame the welsh team itself but something isnt right.
The whole situation is a joke.
*worlds most expensive player sits on the bench for his national team. unfit?? pfffttt
* the FAW is a complete joke and no manager/team/club has anything good to say about them
*we lose 2-1 to Macedonia
This is the greatest season there could ever be for Welsh football to start growing. The FAW should really start capitalizing on the fact that Wales has two major teams in the premier league and get everyone together to sort out the WPL. Make it into a league which people can be proud of.
as for the national team? why play top players? Give the national team positions to players in the WPL. why not? we may get thumped 8-0, but who cares, because we wont qualify for anything as it stands anyway.
time to shake things up.
and not once did i mention Coleman, no need!!
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| Welsh Team a joke on 22:19 - Sep 6 with 5395 views | max936 |
| Welsh Team a joke on 22:12 - Sep 6 by SomethingRandom |
I always hate our players going off on international duty. When Ash comes back he always plays badly for the first couple of games. |
Got himsef wound up tonite, with his own players and Macedonia's, do him good to miss Tuesdays game, apart from training which he'd do anyway, he' have a nice rest unti the LFC game, happy days.
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| Welsh Team a joke on 23:46 - Sep 6 with 5322 views | treboethjack |
Always followed Wales no mater what as a proud Welshman, but its becoming harder to to remain optimistic as we start to improve them fail once again! thank f*ck for the swans! |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 01:39 - Sep 7 with 5267 views | Highjack |
Is it just my brain playing tricks on me but do our players look a shadow of theirselves when playing for Wales? They seem to struggle playing alongside lesser players like Gunter, Ricketts, Bellamy and Vokes. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 02:51 - Sep 7 with 5253 views | joswan17 |
Forgive me for being against the general consensus on this thread, and I understand the frustration when you consider the talent we have. Sometimes don't believe we're the 40th best nation in the World. And after the heartbreak we all suffered after Speedo's passing and how he'd brought up a team that was a winning team against some tricky opposition, it's understandable that we all be disappointed with poor performances. We were decent tonight but not clinical when it mattered. Positives to take, but another disappointing result and no points - which is all that matters in Qualifiers.
But I don't agree with people saying they've "had it" with their National Team. We're Welsh (mostly!) and we should support our players through anything. Good, bad, etc. makes me worry if/when the Swans' bubbles burst and we fall down the divisions again, how many would still be around. Whether it start this season, next or in fifty years.
Bale should have played tonight. Yes, Madrid probably were the reason behind his benching but Bale himself should have stood up and said nothing stops me playing for Wales. They've no problem with Ronaldo playing 90 minutes every game for Portugal, as well as Pepe and Coantrao, so why Bale? Disappointed in him and in the FAW for not forcing through game time tonight - having him on the pitch could easily have meant we got the third goal.
I dunno. Something's not right with our National Team, but I'll proudly sing the national anthem before every game they play and support them just as avidly as I do the Swans. Got to take the good, with the bad. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 07:56 - Sep 7 with 5222 views | QuakerJack |
| Welsh Team a joke on 02:51 - Sep 7 by joswan17 |
Forgive me for being against the general consensus on this thread, and I understand the frustration when you consider the talent we have. Sometimes don't believe we're the 40th best nation in the World. And after the heartbreak we all suffered after Speedo's passing and how he'd brought up a team that was a winning team against some tricky opposition, it's understandable that we all be disappointed with poor performances. We were decent tonight but not clinical when it mattered. Positives to take, but another disappointing result and no points - which is all that matters in Qualifiers.
But I don't agree with people saying they've "had it" with their National Team. We're Welsh (mostly!) and we should support our players through anything. Good, bad, etc. makes me worry if/when the Swans' bubbles burst and we fall down the divisions again, how many would still be around. Whether it start this season, next or in fifty years.
Bale should have played tonight. Yes, Madrid probably were the reason behind his benching but Bale himself should have stood up and said nothing stops me playing for Wales. They've no problem with Ronaldo playing 90 minutes every game for Portugal, as well as Pepe and Coantrao, so why Bale? Disappointed in him and in the FAW for not forcing through game time tonight - having him on the pitch could easily have meant we got the third goal.
I dunno. Something's not right with our National Team, but I'll proudly sing the national anthem before every game they play and support them just as avidly as I do the Swans. Got to take the good, with the bad. |
I fully agree with that, let's not forget that like Wales, we've had nitwits running us, even bigger nitwits managing us, but I still went, supported Swansea City.
I'll never stop supporting my country, but I do think the difference is that with the swans, ok we had crap players but they went out, tried their hardest and when fit they wanted to play.
It understandably irks people when your best players fake injury as Ryan giggs has admitted doing, or don't get on because their club manager tells you not to. It really devalues and takes away all credibility from international football. I do believe Coleman is the biggest problem, and the morons at the FAW, but it is always going to turn people away when they go along in the hope of qualifying and players like Gareth Bale almost admit they don't care by not bothering to play, I agree that if Bale really wanted to play he'd have said so and Coleman isn't daft enough to cut off his nose to spite his face, but the actions of Bale and giggs are telling you we don't care about qualifying, so why should fans care about supporting. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 09:43 - Sep 7 with 5167 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Welsh Team a joke on 07:56 - Sep 7 by QuakerJack |
I fully agree with that, let's not forget that like Wales, we've had nitwits running us, even bigger nitwits managing us, but I still went, supported Swansea City.
I'll never stop supporting my country, but I do think the difference is that with the swans, ok we had crap players but they went out, tried their hardest and when fit they wanted to play.
It understandably irks people when your best players fake injury as Ryan giggs has admitted doing, or don't get on because their club manager tells you not to. It really devalues and takes away all credibility from international football. I do believe Coleman is the biggest problem, and the morons at the FAW, but it is always going to turn people away when they go along in the hope of qualifying and players like Gareth Bale almost admit they don't care by not bothering to play, I agree that if Bale really wanted to play he'd have said so and Coleman isn't daft enough to cut off his nose to spite his face, but the actions of Bale and giggs are telling you we don't care about qualifying, so why should fans care about supporting. |
Unfair on Bale I think - Giggs wouldn't have even gone.
How match fit was Bale? In his position he could have played and been injured for lack of match fitness. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 09:45 - Sep 7 with 5166 views | tomdickharry |
| Welsh Team a joke on 07:56 - Sep 7 by QuakerJack |
I fully agree with that, let's not forget that like Wales, we've had nitwits running us, even bigger nitwits managing us, but I still went, supported Swansea City.
I'll never stop supporting my country, but I do think the difference is that with the swans, ok we had crap players but they went out, tried their hardest and when fit they wanted to play.
It understandably irks people when your best players fake injury as Ryan giggs has admitted doing, or don't get on because their club manager tells you not to. It really devalues and takes away all credibility from international football. I do believe Coleman is the biggest problem, and the morons at the FAW, but it is always going to turn people away when they go along in the hope of qualifying and players like Gareth Bale almost admit they don't care by not bothering to play, I agree that if Bale really wanted to play he'd have said so and Coleman isn't daft enough to cut off his nose to spite his face, but the actions of Bale and giggs are telling you we don't care about qualifying, so why should fans care about supporting. |
According to Coleman(wish he would stop that ridiculous chewing) Bale was not fit to play,therefore,one must believe the Manager.As regards the FAW,as I have said many times before the majority of the council are elected by the member clubs of which we are one and they(the clubs)do nothing about it,even the Barry/Llanelli outcry has disappeared,if the clubs do nothing the FAW will continue as usual. | | | |
| Welsh Team a joke on 10:17 - Sep 7 with 5139 views | grabsplatter |
| Welsh Team a joke on 09:45 - Sep 7 by tomdickharry |
According to Coleman(wish he would stop that ridiculous chewing) Bale was not fit to play,therefore,one must believe the Manager.As regards the FAW,as I have said many times before the majority of the council are elected by the member clubs of which we are one and they(the clubs)do nothing about it,even the Barry/Llanelli outcry has disappeared,if the clubs do nothing the FAW will continue as usual. |
Like some others on here I do care about the Welsh team & I've been to all the games we've had at the Liberty but I'm struggling to summon up any enthusiasm for Wales games atm.
With the likes of Bale, Ramsey, Bellend & Ash we really should be better - that is down to the manager. We're playing like a collection of individuals & not a team.
The FAW are a long running joke unfortunately - how many years have we all been saying it with nothing changing ? |  | | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 10:29 - Sep 7 with 5124 views | turkontour |
I just love the lets all slag off our country thread!!!
I'm not denying things are not right on/off the pitch at the moment and perhaps there is not the correct manager in charge, but wow, we lost, get over it, roll on the next game.
Wales lose, Swans lose, Wales win a game, Swans win a game, its what its all about!!!
Get out there and support your Country.
Hey - where's the Welsh flag smiley gone??!!! | | | |
| Welsh Team a joke on 10:34 - Sep 7 with 5119 views | shingle |
| Welsh Team a joke on 10:29 - Sep 7 by turkontour |
I just love the lets all slag off our country thread!!!
I'm not denying things are not right on/off the pitch at the moment and perhaps there is not the correct manager in charge, but wow, we lost, get over it, roll on the next game.
Wales lose, Swans lose, Wales win a game, Swans win a game, its what its all about!!!
Get out there and support your Country.
Hey - where's the Welsh flag smiley gone??!!! |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 10:41 - Sep 7 with 5109 views | shingle |
I think most of us had a good idea things would go even more downhill once Coleman was appointed, the muppets who run the FAW have no ambition and as long us there ok they are quite happy in having a yes man puppet like Coleman who will not rock there boat. | | | |
| Welsh Team a joke on 10:42 - Sep 7 with 5106 views | jacabertawe |
| Welsh Team a joke on 10:34 - Sep 7 by shingle |
What a stupid comment. |
What a stupid response.
I support my country, win or lose. I support the Swans, win or lose. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 10:52 - Sep 7 with 5101 views | 1983 |
The whole Welsh FA set up is a joke, Ever since I was told to take down a Welsh flag at a Wales game because it had "Swansea" written on it and they were scared it might cause trouble with Cardiff fans I couldn't care if they got stuffed 10-0 every game!
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:08 - Sep 7 with 5085 views | reddythered |
Giggs only missed friendlies though, from memory - and I don't necessarily have a problem with that. When we've so few quality players, it's the rest of the team aroud them that needs working on.
The fact remains, the FAW are f***wits with their insistance on a Welsh manager. Coleman from memory nearly got Fulham relegated, was crap at Coventry, mediocre at Real Sociedad(?) and ended up with a Greek 2nd division side, claiming no "British side wanted to play the style he wanted to use".
And then appointing Hartson... someone who got his coaching qualifications somehow and then has spectaclarly avoided any real roles using them domestically. Jobs for the boyos mentality prevalent within the FAW.
Going to get slated for this, but quite frankly, we've got talent in Bale and Rambo going forward. The rest of the side needs to be well organised. I'd go with Pulis if the FAW only want a Welsh manager. Like his style or not, his Stoke teams were always well organised, tough to break down which is precisely what we need right now. Things have got to be stabilised before being taken forward o we waste yet another generation of talent. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:10 - Sep 7 with 5084 views | max936 |
I love it reading peoples opinion's that we were "decent" last night, we had brief moments of decency nothing more and that was against a p:ss poor outfit ike Macedonia, never mind Serbia next.
Im passionate about my Country and I get frustrated watching (I wil still watch us, but last night wound me right up) us more often than not, things have to change, how we do it I don't know, but changes have to be made, we as clubs have to inforce change at the top, notsure if Cardiff will try and infuence change though as they are under foriegn ownership. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:22 - Sep 7 with 4868 views | max936 |
| Welsh Team a joke on 11:08 - Sep 7 by reddythered |
Giggs only missed friendlies though, from memory - and I don't necessarily have a problem with that. When we've so few quality players, it's the rest of the team aroud them that needs working on.
The fact remains, the FAW are f***wits with their insistance on a Welsh manager. Coleman from memory nearly got Fulham relegated, was crap at Coventry, mediocre at Real Sociedad(?) and ended up with a Greek 2nd division side, claiming no "British side wanted to play the style he wanted to use".
And then appointing Hartson... someone who got his coaching qualifications somehow and then has spectaclarly avoided any real roles using them domestically. Jobs for the boyos mentality prevalent within the FAW.
Going to get slated for this, but quite frankly, we've got talent in Bale and Rambo going forward. The rest of the side needs to be well organised. I'd go with Pulis if the FAW only want a Welsh manager. Like his style or not, his Stoke teams were always well organised, tough to break down which is precisely what we need right now. Things have got to be stabilised before being taken forward o we waste yet another generation of talent. |
You don't have a probem with Giggs missing friendlies, strange comment that mate, what he's more important than the rest is he, also what about team spirit and deveoping game plans?
The fact that he's admitted faking injury to miss Wales games is enough for me and just inforces my opinion that he should never be let anywhere near the Welsh team, he coudn't give a fuk, although if he finds he's no longer wanted at "Utd" he'll probably profess is undying love for Wales. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:22 - Sep 7 with 4864 views | centrestandswan |
One consolation is we never took Coleman on as manager, in Hugh we trust.  |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:24 - Sep 7 with 4859 views | reddythered |
| Welsh Team a joke on 11:22 - Sep 7 by max936 |
You don't have a probem with Giggs missing friendlies, strange comment that mate, what he's more important than the rest is he, also what about team spirit and deveoping game plans?
The fact that he's admitted faking injury to miss Wales games is enough for me and just inforces my opinion that he should never be let anywhere near the Welsh team, he coudn't give a fuk, although if he finds he's no longer wanted at "Utd" he'll probably profess is undying love for Wales. |
Friendlies are used to try different things out. You knew Giggs would play meaningful games, how and where he'd play. The rest of the team around him needed sorting out. I'd say the priority for me would be trying different players in different positions because that was the greater need. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 11:32 - Sep 7 with 4851 views | max936 |
| Welsh Team a joke on 11:24 - Sep 7 by reddythered |
Friendlies are used to try different things out. You knew Giggs would play meaningful games, how and where he'd play. The rest of the team around him needed sorting out. I'd say the priority for me would be trying different players in different positions because that was the greater need. |
To be fair you're sticking up for him because he's a Cardiff boy, just like you said about Rambo and bale 
I noticed you haven't mentioned Ash Allen or Ben who for his age has been outstanding.
Or am I being cynical 
I agree on both Bale and Rambo's importance though, but others shoud be included in the mainstay or the side like Williams, Allen, Davies and Taylor, also you can't take way the importance of Bellamys contibution, who I'd call a real passionate Welshman, I'd take him allday long over Giggs. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 12:05 - Sep 7 with 4825 views | reddythered |
| Welsh Team a joke on 11:32 - Sep 7 by max936 |
To be fair you're sticking up for him because he's a Cardiff boy, just like you said about Rambo and bale
I noticed you haven't mentioned Ash Allen or Ben who for his age has been outstanding.
Or am I being cynical
I agree on both Bale and Rambo's importance though, but others shoud be included in the mainstay or the side like Williams, Allen, Davies and Taylor, also you can't take way the importance of Bellamys contibution, who I'd call a real passionate Welshman, I'd take him allday long over Giggs. |
You're being cynical.
EDIT: Giggs a Cardiff boy? For all of how many years? Bale was with Southampton from 12 iirc...
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My point was about the attacking quality going forward, nothing more. If you look at the squad, then attack wise it's going to be based around Rambo and Bale. Nobody can deny that irrespective of where they are from.
The Welsh side is too prone to defensive switch offs, both defenders and midfielders - that needs to be tightened up which is why Pulis would be my preference over Coleman anyday.
Bellamy, can't fault his commitment but his legs are going. His game was based on pace, now it's going he's either got to adapt his game or retire. I'd be amazed if he was a regular for us next season or possible even this.
The problem also is the Welsh u21s were screwed by Flynn being fired. Youngsters coming through... ehh... [Post edited 7 Sep 2013 12:06]
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| Welsh Team a joke on 12:17 - Sep 7 with 4812 views | max936 |
| Welsh Team a joke on 12:05 - Sep 7 by reddythered |
You're being cynical.
EDIT: Giggs a Cardiff boy? For all of how many years? Bale was with Southampton from 12 iirc...
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My point was about the attacking quality going forward, nothing more. If you look at the squad, then attack wise it's going to be based around Rambo and Bale. Nobody can deny that irrespective of where they are from.
The Welsh side is too prone to defensive switch offs, both defenders and midfielders - that needs to be tightened up which is why Pulis would be my preference over Coleman anyday.
Bellamy, can't fault his commitment but his legs are going. His game was based on pace, now it's going he's either got to adapt his game or retire. I'd be amazed if he was a regular for us next season or possible even this.
The problem also is the Welsh u21s were screwed by Flynn being fired. Youngsters coming through... ehh... [Post edited 7 Sep 2013 12:06]
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Good points mate fair do's no arguement from me, when I mentioned Bellars, I should have said that I would keep him in some capacity, he was a plus last night for me also. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 12:18 - Sep 7 with 4809 views | Belfast |
| Welsh Team a joke on 21:41 - Sep 6 by Azzuriswan |
unfortunately Wales National team has been on a downward spiral for years now and one can only think that it starts from the top not just on the pitch. Wales were a game from qualifying for a tournament under Mark Hughes when we played Russia in a play off match conceded an early goal and we never looked forward again literally from that night on.
From playing matches in front of 40000 plus crowds at the Milennium Stadium we are now reduced to playing poorly in front of crowds of at most 10000 at more often than not the Cardiff City Stadium where the support is not exactly positive.
Time for a change I think...the FAW Council as a whole needs to resign and we need to start again as it seem blatantly obvious that the whole system is about what they can get out of the system for nothing ie trips abroad free tickets etc
Sorry to be so negative but it is getting embarrassing to say that you don't care about the national team. We should be proud of them |
The FAW intiative back in the late 90's saw Wales with the biggest attendances in Europe, £10 entry and Wales nearly, yes, nearly qualified for a tournament.
There is no chance now,FAW run by backward people based in a backwash city that rates itself so highly they dont see the brown stain running through their whole football system. |  |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 13:22 - Sep 7 with 4773 views | reddythered |
| Welsh Team a joke on 12:17 - Sep 7 by max936 |
Good points mate fair do's no arguement from me, when I mentioned Bellars, I should have said that I would keep him in some capacity, he was a plus last night for me also. |
Like I said, Bellamy is now at the point where he has to adapt his game. If he can or not, well, we'll find out this season in the Prem. I'd say there's a fairly good chance he'll get into coaching after retiring. From things he's said probably at a youth level.
Would be a massive step up from Geraint Williams for the u21 role certainly. | |
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| Welsh Team a joke on 13:24 - Sep 7 with 4770 views | reddythered |
| Welsh Team a joke on 12:18 - Sep 7 by Belfast |
The FAW intiative back in the late 90's saw Wales with the biggest attendances in Europe, £10 entry and Wales nearly, yes, nearly qualified for a tournament.
There is no chance now,FAW run by backward people based in a backwash city that rates itself so highly they dont see the brown stain running through their whole football system. |
Your points are valid aside from the fact the city of it's HQ is irrelevant.
Too many incompetent insular amateurs playing at managing professionals. | |
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