| Public sector pay 09:10 - Dec 11 with 9058 views | raynor94 |
Government recommending 2.8% rise, with inflation running at 2.6 %.
Will be interesting to see what the pay review body say, but this looks like a collision course for the government | |
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| Public sector pay on 22:33 - Dec 11 with 947 views | Scotia |
That's not what I do, I'm in environmental impact assessment.
But it's the same old story. Less money from government to prosecute people.
That extra £10 billion plus could go a long way. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 22:43 - Dec 11 with 921 views | raynor94 |
So a couple living together or married? come on far to many today want things put on a plate for them.
I'm like Flashberry started off in a very modest property and worked our way up.
I gave an excellent example earlier 95k perhaps you could get it cheaper Pentregethin Road in lovely condition, perfect for a couple starting out on life | |
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| Public sector pay on 07:01 - Dec 12 with 838 views | Scotia |
Plenty of people on this forum and the media. Directly from this forum:-
"Most people would love the 8.8% pay rises they had in April plus the 3% they have been offered as well. Nearly 12% in a year. Most people would be glad with that generous offer" | | | |
| Public sector pay on 08:21 - Dec 12 with 814 views | felixstowe_jack |
Interest aside in Drakeford's budget.
The Senedd have awarded local councils an average increase in their funding of 4.3%. All the labour run councils have been award funding increases above 4.3% including Cardiff and Newport at 5.3% and 5.7% getting the most.
All other councils run by PC, Conservative , independents or no overall control got the least with Vale of Glamorgan , Monmouthshire, Powys and Gwynedd getting 3.2% or less.
Almost as if the funding was based on the colour of the party rather than actual needs.
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| Public sector pay on 09:01 - Dec 12 with 762 views | Whiterockin |
Wasn't that by Gwyn in relation to the doctors pay rise and bares no relation to the 2.8% public sector rise that is being discussed. Try again. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 09:04 - Dec 12 with 759 views | Whiterockin |
How much of this increase is going straight back to Westminster through the increase in NI. Labour are just moving money around trying look good, its not working. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 09:05 - Dec 12 with 757 views | Scotia |
I'm discussing public sector pay rises in general, as was the second post in this thread:-
"I wonder what the junior doctors and train drivers could possibly have done to get such favourable pay awards?" | | | |
| Public sector pay on 10:34 - Dec 12 with 711 views | controversial_jack |
Train drivers are paid by private train companies not the taxpayer. Why do footballers get paid so much? | | | |
| Public sector pay on 12:23 - Dec 12 with 678 views | Scotia |
It's not my quote.
You're right to certain extent I believe, but the companies are government franchises so pay awards need government sign off. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 12:28 - Dec 12 with 674 views | felixstowe_jack |
Because football is a highly skilled game. Less than 0.01 of the UK population are good enough to be professional football players.
In comparison anyone with a driving licence could easily become a train driver after a short period of training.
Bus drivers and HGV drivers have a much more skilled job than train drivers yet receive half the pay
All train drivers will shortly be paid by the taxpayers when train companies are nationalised.
A lot already are Tfw, Scotland, Northern Rail,
The London taxpayers also fund Tfl where underground drivers get paid a lot more than train drivers. Despite being not required to drive trains on most underground lines. They just sit in the cab opening doors. | |
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| Public sector pay on 14:53 - Dec 12 with 616 views | controversial_jack |
Whether it's easier or not is irrelevant - that's down to your narrow minded opinion, it's the market that decides their pay not the public sector.
All jobs are easy once you become competent and experienced. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 16:10 - Dec 12 with 568 views | KeithHaynes |
Fire fighter ? Military ? Police, Doctors, nurses. They are all jobs which never have a daily script and are always presenting differences scenarios every day and night. | |
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| Public sector pay on 16:23 - Dec 12 with 549 views | max936 |
I'd put Paramedics alongside the those above should have a yearly pay rise of between 5 and 7.5%. | |
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| Public sector pay on 17:15 - Dec 12 with 506 views | felixstowe_jack |
I think you are the problem always putting opposite views to the majority and never accepting you are wrong.
I think unions certainly affect pay awards particularly in virtual closed shop work areas.
I notice you did noy try counter the argument as to why footballers are so highly paid. | |
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| Public sector pay on 17:23 - Dec 12 with 493 views | SullutaCreturned |
Footballers are paid obscenely and often it's stupid clubs and greedy agenst who get contracts players barely deserve.
This whole thread is crazy.
OAP's have paid in, the UK has one of the worse pensions in Europe and we are a first world country? Bullshit.
Do publuic sector deserve more, without a doubt but 2.8% of 30k is still more than 4.1% of 12k. 840 versus 492. 492 is 41 per month, hw much did council tax go up, how much have the gas and electric gone up, how much will water go up? | | | |
| Public sector pay on 17:25 - Dec 12 with 476 views | raynor94 |
You are trying to push water uphill, with a few on here | |
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| Public sector pay on 18:37 - Dec 12 with 429 views | Gwyn737 |
Trouble is that in some areas of public service, the pay is not enough to recruit and retrain staff.
What happen then? Either the service gets poorer or immigrants come in and take up the slack. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 18:42 - Dec 12 with 408 views | Gwyn737 |
Just got in from work after dealing with the most horrendous child protection issue, coordinating children’s services and the police.
Children’s services shut shop at 5pm and directed me to the emergency worker who is one person on a phone. It took the police 7 hours to attend. Not their fault, they’re flat out.
This work won’t appear in any league table, performance measure or inspection report.
This kind of thing happens regularly.
Can’t imagine why people aren’t coming into the profession. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 18:46 - Dec 12 with 395 views | Whiterockin |
That's not going to happen in most education posts. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 18:52 - Dec 12 with 387 views | Gwyn737 |
There’s around 4000 vacancies in England at this time. Recruitment targets are consistently missed and the population is growing.
That not taking into account non specialists.
Round my way, there are large numbers of northern Irish, Canadians and south Asians coming in. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 19:03 - Dec 12 with 365 views | max936 |
Well go and do an "environmental impact assessment" on our rivers and environment, what do you think the impact of all that pollution is doing?
Have you actually achieved anything ? sitting in the office drinking coffee and talking about it won't solve the problem, so many different job titles that lap over onto each other ends up with nothing getting done except keeping those with those titles drawing wages whilst yapping like cockle women. | |
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| Public sector pay on 19:20 - Dec 12 with 340 views | Whiterockin |
Are there not more teachers leaving the profession than the sector is able to recruit. That is without the extra teachers promised, paid for out of the vat going on private school fees. Would you agree that those joining the profession now are well below the standard of 10 years ago. The education sector is broken like the NHS and just throwing money at the problem will not solve it. Politicians like to say they are increasing the budget just to appease voters, when in fact they need to stop playing party politics and sort the problem out. | | | |
| Public sector pay on 19:21 - Dec 12 with 334 views | SullutaCreturned |
This has really rattled your cage, eh? | | | |
| Public sector pay on 19:24 - Dec 12 with 314 views | SullutaCreturned |
I imagine retention is quite hard too.
Rayns, it's much easier to push water uphill when it's frozen, just get a decent pair of gloves. At the rate of Uk pensions and the cutting of the WFA those gloves will come in very handy in cold weather too  | | | |
| Public sector pay on 19:25 - Dec 12 with 311 views | Gwyn737 |
5 - 10 years ago I’d have agreed with you but there have been fast improvements since then.
The sector was pretty slow to accept research based practice but that has changed quite dramatically and it the older teachers who are running to keep up atm.
As I said that’s a pretty recent thing.
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I don’t the the education part is broken, it’s picking up the bits that once were health and social services that has really made things difficult. [Post edited 12 Dec 19:28]
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