| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread 13:04 - Jul 10 with 42729 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I think I’ve been quite lucky so far no?
Well managed England play will defeat the Italians by the odd goal.
Here’s me putting the gauntlet down:
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:17 - Jul 12 with 1562 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Condemning those that stormed in and those that set ticketing policy isn’t mutually exclusive, but one provided the motivation for the other. To be clear that isn’t justification.
What I’m hearing is that offenders need to be punished, stewards need to be paid more, and ticketing for sponsors needs to be banned. [Post edited 12 Jul 2021 17:18]
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:18 - Jul 12 with 1559 views | QPR_Jim |
Most people would have loved to be at Wembley for the game but only a few who couldn't get tickets decided to storm in. No excuses. They could have held the whole thing behind closed doors and it still wouldn't make it right to storm into the stadium.
Incidentally how do we think this has effected our chances of getting picked as a host nation for a world cup? | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:19 - Jul 12 with 1554 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I did say it was inexcusable right in the middle of the post there.
Not sure we deserve to host a tournament anyway. Let Scotland have it. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:24 - Jul 12 with 1533 views | Rangersw12 |
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gary-neville-insists-booing-nationa
I think Neville sums it up pretty well here regarding the booing of national anthems .
As for future World Cups if 6500 can be killed building stadiums in Qatar I'm sure we will be fine to host a tournament where a couple of hundred people tried to watch their team in the biggest game in 55 years | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:25 - Jul 12 with 1522 views | Konk |
Mate, if tickets had been £5 a pop, chances are those blokes still wouldn’t have got tickets owing to scarcity. Are you seriously suggesting that most/all of those storming the barriers etc wouldn’t still have tried to get in if prices were fairer?! I hate ticket prices as much as anyone, but it’s got fu ck-all to do with yesterday. If the stadium was half-empty and ££££ a ticket then more understandable, but that wasn’t the case. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:29 - Jul 12 with 1497 views | Toast_R |
True that. FIFA's criteria for hosting the tournament comes down to the greasing of palms. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:32 - Jul 12 with 1480 views | nix |
I agree. This wasn't a class issue, it was a lack of class issue. No excuse for it. There are always events we can't go to, however much we'd love to be there. It's the same for every tournament, the Olympics etc wherever you are in the world, people with power and influence will get tickets. It's no justification for yobbish behaviour. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:39 - Jul 12 with 1458 views | Konk |
Well, Qatar’s successful bid allegedly involved some £££/highly questionable voting motivations, so FIFA clearly couldn’t give a sh it how many poor labourers die. Whether it was a major problem or not in your eyes, failing to secure a perimeter around the stadium hosting a final, with fights breaking out in the ground, isn’t a great look, is it? | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:42 - Jul 12 with 1435 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Am I suggesting that those blokes wouldn’t have stormed Wembley? No
Am I suggesting the ticketing policy didn’t help? Yes
Am I absolving those blokes for their behaviour? No
Am I criticising corporate ticketing policy and the pricing out of fans? Yes
Also, the stadium was a third empty not half, but that’s by the by and Covid related obviously. [Post edited 12 Jul 2021 17:43]
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:49 - Jul 12 with 1395 views | francisbowles |
Agreed, on the second sentence.
in 68, we in fact beat the Soviet Union 2-0 in the play off to finish 3rd. Something the Euros did away with after 1980 | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:51 - Jul 12 with 1387 views | 80s_Boy |
Are you saying that there are idiots working at UEFA and idiots among the crowd who stormed the gates so, idiots on both sides? 
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:57 - Jul 12 with 1361 views | Boston |
You’re not globally hated. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 17:58 - Jul 12 with 1352 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I think what UEFA do is extremely calculated and quite clever actually. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:00 - Jul 12 with 1344 views | 80s_Boy |
We could get into a long discussion here but we'd probably be agreeing with each other the whole way through.... | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:10 - Jul 12 with 1307 views | Boston |
Newport…Newport,Wales? | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:24 - Jul 12 with 1260 views | R_from_afar |
I don’t think either of them were reds. You can’t give a red for a tug back, albeit an agricultural one, that far from the goal. With the Grealish tackle, the Italian player stood on the ball and his foot skidded off. I really don’t think he intended to stand on Grealish’s thigh.
England did phenomenally well to get to the final, the team has really come on in leaps and bounds and they should all be very proud, especially as they took the best team in the tournament all the way. That said, Italy might have won it in normal time if Chiesa — who was a real menace — had not gone off injured.
It all bodes well for England’s future. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:34 - Jul 12 with 1231 views | Konk |
I have no problem with booing the fu ck out of the opposition for 90 minutes, and trying to put them off their game, but booing national anthems just seems completely pointless, classless, and probably counter-productive. And whatever Gary Neville thinks, it is noted and condemned by other countries. It’s not like it even has to be a country we’ve had ‘issues’ with in the past; we will literally boo every fuc ker’s anthem. It’s silly for UEFA to include it in charges, especially when they constantly fail to adequately punish racism, but it does make us look like a bunch of ar seholes, and whether other countries do it or not doesn’t matter. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:42 - Jul 12 with 1206 views | 80s_Boy |
I can't remember to be honest. We've always, bizarrely, had decent support in Cardiff which is just down the road so maybe.
Also, in 1996 Wales hadn't qualified for a tournament for 38 years so maybe that increased the support we had there? | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:45 - Jul 12 with 1196 views | Konk |
I expect it’s Newport near Telford as it said, “Newport and Much Wenlock(!) in Shropshire”. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:54 - Jul 12 with 1167 views | eastside_r |
There are several Newports in England and this is clearly labelled Newport (Shropshire). I suspect Boston was trying to be funny [Post edited 12 Jul 2021 18:59]
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:54 - Jul 12 with 1165 views | daveB |
you could see it coming a mile off with fans trying to storm in, when you think how many policer you see at Championship games compared to the zero presence around Wembley Way yesterday it was crazy. I watched at lunchtime seeing so many fans there and i could tell this wouldn't end well
That should have been policed from the start needing a ticket to boxpark or the game otherwise you can't come down, leaving it open for any idiot and letting them drink and go mad from early morning was beyond stupid
What should have been a celebration of football and this exciting England team turned into a national embarrassment. No excuses at all for the people involved, i don't care how much they wanted to go to the game to behave like that was a disgrace | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:57 - Jul 12 with 1149 views | Match82 |
Of all the negatives, picking on ticketing for sponsors is a bit weird
Ticketing for sponsors is a perk of the sponsorship and therefore part of the reason cost of sponsorship is too high. No sponsorship = lower bid price = UEFA need to offset that money somehow...= Higher ticket prices
Yes I agree that wouldn't it be nice if tickets were a tenner a piece and freely available, but that isn't the real world. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 18:59 - Jul 12 with 1135 views | 80s_Boy |
Ah, I see... | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 19:01 - Jul 12 with 1117 views | Mick_S |
Baz, pardon me if I’ve misunderstood your post regarding attendance - I haven’t followed this thread properly. One of my sons was there last night and he said there were very few empty seats. Goodness only knows how many bunked in last night - it’s been going on throughout the whole tournament at Wembley, and of course, the word has gone around. A bad ending to a fantastic time for us England fans. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 19:04 - Jul 12 with 1984 views | bosh67 |
Apparently Southgate is taking a few weeks out to consider his future but I really do hope we can tie him down to a proper long term contract again. We got things wrong last night but this squad and management are constantly improving overall. If I was in charge I would give him at least the World Cup and the Euros after that, if not longer. | |
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