| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 22:35 - Apr 23 with 1236 views | ColDale |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 18:18 - Apr 23 by TalkingSutty |
Not a bad post but can you please explain something to me because i am obviously missing something .
COG lives in Sheffield, he has a opportunity to play for a very big club in Sheffield Wednesday who will instantly pay him enough money to make him comfortable for life, trebbling his wages. He can play in front of 20,000 fans every week and decides he wants to leave. Lets face it anybody in their right mind would have their head turned.
So Dunphy offers him the highest wages ever offered to one of our players and even that is way behind the Owls offer, COG obviously still decides he wants to leave. So what should the Chairman do then ? force him to stay and have a unhappy player at the club whose form will probably drop off as a result and risk losing a healthy transfer fee ? We had no option but to sell him, can you not see that ?
Once a player wants to leave the club whats the point in forcing him to stay. To blame the Chairman is way off the mark. |
One possible angle is that COG saw us through pre-season, and saw what a mess we were and wanted out. Let's face it, relegation was staring us in the face two or three weeks before the season even started - anyone who went to Wrexham could tell you that.
Also whilst there is no doubt that COG's deal improved massive when he signed for Sheff Wednesday, he cold have secured a much better deal by seeing out his contract and becoming a free agent. |  | |  |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 02:54 - Apr 24 with 1186 views | downunder |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 15:41 - Apr 23 by Doolan_Is_God |
I think perhaps we need to accept that building a successful club in a recession-ravaged town surrounded by numerous successful clubs is unlikely to happen. I'm not saying it can't happen (look at Wigan and Blackpool) but I don't think it's the way to bet.
I don't blame the Spotland commercial department and I think they've done really well on aspects they can control such as commercial sponsorship. We can all come up with ways to get financial blood out of the Rochdale stone but it seems clear there's no blood to be had. If the football we played under Hillcroft didn't pack the ground and triple our merchandise sales then a couple of billboards and some free tickets for the homeless isn't going to.
For every Wigan and Blackpool, there's a Stockport, Darlington, Portsmouth or Chester. At the end of the day we still have a club, we're still in the Football League and we can still see good honest football week in, week out. When I think about it like that, I find I don't care so much about what division we're in or what grounds we visit.
Until Sheik Abu bin Big-Bollocks turns up with his oil-stained duffel full of used fifties, we need to rely on our board to make the big decisions to ensure the club that they (and we) love continues to exist and compete and I will be supporting them 100% in that. |
Sheik Abu bin Big-Bollocks.
Or rochedale wins the Euromillions.
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:34 - Apr 25 with 1076 views | drand792 |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 15:57 - Apr 23 by deeplishblue |
bloomin eck. at last someone who puts things into the correct perspective. |
Bang on that! Dale fans should realise we punched well above our weight last year! You can't expect to compete at this level with the income 2000 fans a week earns! It's been tried before and just ends up like Stockport or bury did! I'd settle for being a league club right now and there's only 92 of them ! That's not bad for a town that's 301 in a list of 310 most deprived areas in England is it now?
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:28 - Apr 26 with 982 views | soulboy |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 12:58 - Apr 23 by The_DJ |
Great !
Again the question comes up why didn't money get spent to save us from relegation.
Perhaps the club didn't want League 1 football.
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Couldnt agree more, the fact that we havent spent one penny on new players is almost beyond belief. I bet theres not a single Dale fan who thought that would be the case given the clubs transfer dealings, sponsorship etc in the last year. Whats almost as bad is Dunphy being unchallenged by the Ob who either cant or wont ask him the reason behind it. I got slated on here a couple of weeks ago on here when i questioned the chairmans position, and i reckon the decline in the clubs fortunes will take a hell of a lot longer than one season in L2 to put right. He may be a nice bloke and a "proper" Dale fan but that doesnt get away from the fact that this season three of the four major descisions he has made have been hopelessly wrong. You couldnt make this last twelve months up. |  | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:37 - Apr 26 with 974 views | izzitme |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 15:41 - Apr 23 by Doolan_Is_God |
I think perhaps we need to accept that building a successful club in a recession-ravaged town surrounded by numerous successful clubs is unlikely to happen. I'm not saying it can't happen (look at Wigan and Blackpool) but I don't think it's the way to bet.
I don't blame the Spotland commercial department and I think they've done really well on aspects they can control such as commercial sponsorship. We can all come up with ways to get financial blood out of the Rochdale stone but it seems clear there's no blood to be had. If the football we played under Hillcroft didn't pack the ground and triple our merchandise sales then a couple of billboards and some free tickets for the homeless isn't going to.
For every Wigan and Blackpool, there's a Stockport, Darlington, Portsmouth or Chester. At the end of the day we still have a club, we're still in the Football League and we can still see good honest football week in, week out. When I think about it like that, I find I don't care so much about what division we're in or what grounds we visit.
Until Sheik Abu bin Big-Bollocks turns up with his oil-stained duffel full of used fifties, we need to rely on our board to make the big decisions to ensure the club that they (and we) love continues to exist and compete and I will be supporting them 100% in that. |
What a fantastic post this is.
Sums up all my feelings at mo.
Well done that man. | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:51 - Apr 26 with 950 views | TVOS1907 |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:28 - Apr 26 by soulboy |
Couldnt agree more, the fact that we havent spent one penny on new players is almost beyond belief. I bet theres not a single Dale fan who thought that would be the case given the clubs transfer dealings, sponsorship etc in the last year. Whats almost as bad is Dunphy being unchallenged by the Ob who either cant or wont ask him the reason behind it. I got slated on here a couple of weeks ago on here when i questioned the chairmans position, and i reckon the decline in the clubs fortunes will take a hell of a lot longer than one season in L2 to put right. He may be a nice bloke and a "proper" Dale fan but that doesnt get away from the fact that this season three of the four major descisions he has made have been hopelessly wrong. You couldnt make this last twelve months up. |
Just to repeat ....
Money was reportedly made available to both Eyre (Kuqi & Harrad) and Coleman (Parkin), going off noises in the transfer windows.
They were unable to spend that money due to inflated transfer fees, wage demands and the players choosing other clubs.
The plethora of loan players we've had, plus all the other squad players, will have eaten into any playing/transfer budget, as will reduced crowds.
It's too simplistic to say "we should have spent money to keep us up."
The reality is that the money needs to be spent on the right players, which two managers have been unable to do this season.
In addition, was the rest of the squad good enough? |  |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:13 - Apr 26 with 924 views | stuartcryer |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 15:41 - Apr 23 by Doolan_Is_God |
I think perhaps we need to accept that building a successful club in a recession-ravaged town surrounded by numerous successful clubs is unlikely to happen. I'm not saying it can't happen (look at Wigan and Blackpool) but I don't think it's the way to bet.
I don't blame the Spotland commercial department and I think they've done really well on aspects they can control such as commercial sponsorship. We can all come up with ways to get financial blood out of the Rochdale stone but it seems clear there's no blood to be had. If the football we played under Hillcroft didn't pack the ground and triple our merchandise sales then a couple of billboards and some free tickets for the homeless isn't going to.
For every Wigan and Blackpool, there's a Stockport, Darlington, Portsmouth or Chester. At the end of the day we still have a club, we're still in the Football League and we can still see good honest football week in, week out. When I think about it like that, I find I don't care so much about what division we're in or what grounds we visit.
Until Sheik Abu bin Big-Bollocks turns up with his oil-stained duffel full of used fifties, we need to rely on our board to make the big decisions to ensure the club that they (and we) love continues to exist and compete and I will be supporting them 100% in that. |
wigan got to where they are by having plenty of money but not enough when it came to premiership level they only came to the fore when Whelan came in with his cheque book | |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:13 - Apr 26 with 924 views | soulboy |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:51 - Apr 26 by TVOS1907 |
Just to repeat ....
Money was reportedly made available to both Eyre (Kuqi & Harrad) and Coleman (Parkin), going off noises in the transfer windows.
They were unable to spend that money due to inflated transfer fees, wage demands and the players choosing other clubs.
The plethora of loan players we've had, plus all the other squad players, will have eaten into any playing/transfer budget, as will reduced crowds.
It's too simplistic to say "we should have spent money to keep us up."
The reality is that the money needs to be spent on the right players, which two managers have been unable to do this season.
In addition, was the rest of the squad good enough? |
Parkin was apparantly at Spotland for talks during SE's reign, he reportedly wanted 11k a week, which is a joke. I agree that the amount of loanees etc will have eaten into the budget but my point is money should have been spent back in Jul/Aug to replace quality players, not in Dec/Jan when relegation was looking more likely as the weeks went by. | | | |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:19 - Apr 26 with 915 views | TVOS1907 |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:13 - Apr 26 by soulboy |
Parkin was apparantly at Spotland for talks during SE's reign, he reportedly wanted 11k a week, which is a joke. I agree that the amount of loanees etc will have eaten into the budget but my point is money should have been spent back in Jul/Aug to replace quality players, not in Dec/Jan when relegation was looking more likely as the weeks went by. |
July/August is when Eyre was the manager, which is the period when he was building his squad, a time which included him going for Kuqi and Harrad, that we know of. | |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:40 - Apr 26 with 891 views | Nigeriamark |
Good post and comments
Our home support never went up when we were promoted ( even when we had a chance of the play offs last year) so we were always going to struggle to stay up on our crowds. I think I would rather have a chance of top 7 a division below than struggling for 5th bottom in league 1. Yes an occasional promotion is great but we are now back in the division our support deserves ( not having a go at our fans who attend BTW)
Spending our piggy bank would not work either. Even if every club in the division spends a million, 4 of them still go down
Also I am not sure what the commercial department do that is specifically wrong. They can do more but that costs money. Everyone who is interested in football knows when the season is and where our ground is yet even last year when we had a chance of the play offs they never came so what specific point would you do an advertising campaign on? |  | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:53 - Apr 26 with 876 views | stuartcryer |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:40 - Apr 26 by Nigeriamark |
Good post and comments
Our home support never went up when we were promoted ( even when we had a chance of the play offs last year) so we were always going to struggle to stay up on our crowds. I think I would rather have a chance of top 7 a division below than struggling for 5th bottom in league 1. Yes an occasional promotion is great but we are now back in the division our support deserves ( not having a go at our fans who attend BTW)
Spending our piggy bank would not work either. Even if every club in the division spends a million, 4 of them still go down
Also I am not sure what the commercial department do that is specifically wrong. They can do more but that costs money. Everyone who is interested in football knows when the season is and where our ground is yet even last year when we had a chance of the play offs they never came so what specific point would you do an advertising campaign on? |
you talk a lot of sense we will get more for our money in div 2 | |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 21:57 - Apr 26 with 869 views | soulboy |
Yes your right we have always had poor crowds, even in 68/69 we were the worst supported club of the four that went up, but you dont have to break the bank to build a good side, how much did last seaons team cost? Hilly left us with the nucleus of a side that should have finished at least half way, but a rank bad managerial appointment coupled with signings that were nowhere near L1 standard, and the failure of the chairman to sack SE after the FA cup defeat meant the efforts of the last 4/5yrs has disappeared in a few short months. | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 22:53 - Apr 26 with 812 views | D_Alien |
Blah Blah Blah
Quit your pathetic whingeing ffs!!
It's all been said on here over the past few months, just shut the f*ck up and wait to see what happens close season. |  |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 23:53 - Apr 26 with 779 views | Londondale |
I've honestly never been more angry reading this messageboard as I am tonight. What a load of pathetic drivel. Does not one person share the ambition that I do? To read posts which say 'we could never sustain a league 1 team, we don't get re crowds' is the among some of the most farcical nonsense I've ever read. The point is, one doesn't support a football club in the hope that they find a natural level (which for fans of Blackpool is where now, exactly?). One supports a football club in the hope that they win, and DON'T get relegated. I can't believe that people accept what has happened this season, as if we are not in this league on merit and a if our crowds are the reason for our relegation. WRONG sirs, as Keith hill proved last year. We could easily have stayed up had, as I see it, three crucial mistakes not been made. 1) failing AGAIN and AGAIN to do anything meaningful to step into the 21st century and get people through interested in the club (how f@cking hard is it to set up an e-ticket system? 2) hindsight is marvellous, but we all know that city youth team coach was a disastrous appointment and 3) not replacing him immediately with Coleman and giving him the transfer window to sort things out.
I'm disgusted to read the comments on here tonight. I can't imagine the supporters of any other club in England would react with such ambivalence to the disgraceful and amateur fashion that this club has been managed (in both senses) this season. It's my opinion, and you may disagree, but it's not so much the Performances on the pitch which have made me re-assess my status as a Dale fan, but the reaction of many of the fans. Pitiful. |  | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 23:58 - Apr 26 with 771 views | roccydaleian |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 22:53 - Apr 26 by D_Alien |
Blah Blah Blah
Quit your pathetic whingeing ffs!!
It's all been said on here over the past few months, just shut the f*ck up and wait to see what happens close season. |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 00:02 - Apr 27 with 770 views | dribdrab |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 20:28 - Apr 26 by soulboy |
Couldnt agree more, the fact that we havent spent one penny on new players is almost beyond belief. I bet theres not a single Dale fan who thought that would be the case given the clubs transfer dealings, sponsorship etc in the last year. Whats almost as bad is Dunphy being unchallenged by the Ob who either cant or wont ask him the reason behind it. I got slated on here a couple of weeks ago on here when i questioned the chairmans position, and i reckon the decline in the clubs fortunes will take a hell of a lot longer than one season in L2 to put right. He may be a nice bloke and a "proper" Dale fan but that doesnt get away from the fact that this season three of the four major descisions he has made have been hopelessly wrong. You couldnt make this last twelve months up. |
Do I misunderstand your post or are you suggesting that Dunphy should buy the players himself?
As far as I am aware Dunphy never said that we are "awash with cash, none of which will be made available to any managers".
As I see it he has offered what meagre resources we have to any of the managers we have had over the last year.
Maybe we could take a different approach and sell all our assets and contract Messi to play for one game.
It's a long shot but it just might work! | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 00:10 - Apr 27 with 766 views | dingdangblue |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 23:53 - Apr 26 by Londondale |
I've honestly never been more angry reading this messageboard as I am tonight. What a load of pathetic drivel. Does not one person share the ambition that I do? To read posts which say 'we could never sustain a league 1 team, we don't get re crowds' is the among some of the most farcical nonsense I've ever read. The point is, one doesn't support a football club in the hope that they find a natural level (which for fans of Blackpool is where now, exactly?). One supports a football club in the hope that they win, and DON'T get relegated. I can't believe that people accept what has happened this season, as if we are not in this league on merit and a if our crowds are the reason for our relegation. WRONG sirs, as Keith hill proved last year. We could easily have stayed up had, as I see it, three crucial mistakes not been made. 1) failing AGAIN and AGAIN to do anything meaningful to step into the 21st century and get people through interested in the club (how f@cking hard is it to set up an e-ticket system? 2) hindsight is marvellous, but we all know that city youth team coach was a disastrous appointment and 3) not replacing him immediately with Coleman and giving him the transfer window to sort things out.
I'm disgusted to read the comments on here tonight. I can't imagine the supporters of any other club in England would react with such ambivalence to the disgraceful and amateur fashion that this club has been managed (in both senses) this season. It's my opinion, and you may disagree, but it's not so much the Performances on the pitch which have made me re-assess my status as a Dale fan, but the reaction of many of the fans. Pitiful. |
How many Teams with a 10k capacity stadium would be top of lge 2 for 4 months playing wonderful football and scoring goals for fun would still only get just over 3000 home fans? Thats why we had to sell all our crown jewels for less than they were worth, and ultimatley why we didnt push on and get promotion again last season. If we had decent support maybe we couldve held onto Perkins,Kennedy,Buckley,Lefondre,Murray,O'grady,Dagnall,Wiseman,Done a little longer and Hill and Flicker mightve stayed. |  |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 06:07 - Apr 27 with 722 views | soulboy |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 22:53 - Apr 26 by D_Alien |
Blah Blah Blah
Quit your pathetic whingeing ffs!!
It's all been said on here over the past few months, just shut the f*ck up and wait to see what happens close season. |
Just because people dont agree with your views they have to stop being pathetic whingers and shut the f*ck up. I always thought this was an open forum, so no, i wont stop whinging or shut the f*ck up. | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 06:16 - Apr 27 with 720 views | soulboy |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 00:02 - Apr 27 by dribdrab |
Do I misunderstand your post or are you suggesting that Dunphy should buy the players himself?
As far as I am aware Dunphy never said that we are "awash with cash, none of which will be made available to any managers".
As I see it he has offered what meagre resources we have to any of the managers we have had over the last year.
Maybe we could take a different approach and sell all our assets and contract Messi to play for one game.
It's a long shot but it just might work! |
I too have never heard Dunphy say we are awash with cash, what he has said is we made a very healthy profit and he takes responsibility for this disastrous season. I certainly hope he doesnt go out and buy any players if his expertise in choosing managers this season is anything to go by!!!!! | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 08:37 - Apr 27 with 677 views | TalkingSutty |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 00:10 - Apr 27 by dingdangblue |
How many Teams with a 10k capacity stadium would be top of lge 2 for 4 months playing wonderful football and scoring goals for fun would still only get just over 3000 home fans? Thats why we had to sell all our crown jewels for less than they were worth, and ultimatley why we didnt push on and get promotion again last season. If we had decent support maybe we couldve held onto Perkins,Kennedy,Buckley,Lefondre,Murray,O'grady,Dagnall,Wiseman,Done a little longer and Hill and Flicker mightve stayed. |
Well said, to dismiss the size of our crowds as irrelevent when it comes to our pecking order in the football pyramid is very naive. On gates of 2000-3000 there is only so much money you can pay out in wages, hence the reason why some of the players listed wanted to move to bigger clubs ( none of them took a wage cut and plumped for a smaller club). Bigger crowd = more money = better players.
Because of our poor gates we HAVE to sell players to try to balance the books. I suspect even if our commercial department where all singing all dancing (they arent, the commercial department is letting the club down financially ), we would still have to sell our best players, its what nearly every club in the country have to do.
We dont have people on the board who have lots of cash to finance the club and i would go as far as to say that if Chris Dunphy resigned we wouldnt have many volunteers stepping up to the plate to replace him. Apart from being a life long Dale fan who would want to do his job and what would that persons motives be ??
Clubs like Blackpool have been mentioned in comparison to ourselves but they have been bankrolled by the Oysten family and another wealthy foreignor for a very long time so that doesnt hold water. Last year i started a thread asking fans what they thought was our position in the football league pecking order, the way i worked it out encompassed our clubs history, our average crowds over the last forty years, the lack of a wealthy investor on the board and the close proximaty of other clubs around us. My conclusion is that we do well to compete in league two and battling for the playoffs and promotion is slightly over achieveing.
It sounds simplistic but i think everything revolves around the size of the crowd the club generates and if you look right through all the divisions that theory is born out. Obviously you have the exceptions like the Sheffield clubs (who will eventually get back to their rightfull place) and a few clubs with wealthy backers.
Accepting league two isnt defeatist because we have shown we are capable of mounting a promotion challenge from that league (maybe over achieving and spending time in league one). League two is not to be sneered at neither, a glance through the teams in the Blue Square Premier will tell you that. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 09:32 - Apr 27 with 639 views | electricblue |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 15:40 - Apr 23 by The_DJ |
Club awash with money and relegated.
A ridicilous state of affairs.
On hold means Im considering my options along with others. |
A good use for some of that profit would be to employ somebody to over haul the commercial side of things even more the merchandise in the club shop..
Its the only way Dale have to take advantage of the club shop me now than ever otherwise i can see Dale struggling in the bottom half of Div2 because of the lack of finances...
This cant go on for ever ignoring this weakness of the commercial dpt..
Wake up CD and sort it.. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:02 - Apr 27 with 616 views | dingdangblue |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 08:37 - Apr 27 by TalkingSutty |
Well said, to dismiss the size of our crowds as irrelevent when it comes to our pecking order in the football pyramid is very naive. On gates of 2000-3000 there is only so much money you can pay out in wages, hence the reason why some of the players listed wanted to move to bigger clubs ( none of them took a wage cut and plumped for a smaller club). Bigger crowd = more money = better players.
Because of our poor gates we HAVE to sell players to try to balance the books. I suspect even if our commercial department where all singing all dancing (they arent, the commercial department is letting the club down financially ), we would still have to sell our best players, its what nearly every club in the country have to do.
We dont have people on the board who have lots of cash to finance the club and i would go as far as to say that if Chris Dunphy resigned we wouldnt have many volunteers stepping up to the plate to replace him. Apart from being a life long Dale fan who would want to do his job and what would that persons motives be ??
Clubs like Blackpool have been mentioned in comparison to ourselves but they have been bankrolled by the Oysten family and another wealthy foreignor for a very long time so that doesnt hold water. Last year i started a thread asking fans what they thought was our position in the football league pecking order, the way i worked it out encompassed our clubs history, our average crowds over the last forty years, the lack of a wealthy investor on the board and the close proximaty of other clubs around us. My conclusion is that we do well to compete in league two and battling for the playoffs and promotion is slightly over achieveing.
It sounds simplistic but i think everything revolves around the size of the crowd the club generates and if you look right through all the divisions that theory is born out. Obviously you have the exceptions like the Sheffield clubs (who will eventually get back to their rightfull place) and a few clubs with wealthy backers.
Accepting league two isnt defeatist because we have shown we are capable of mounting a promotion challenge from that league (maybe over achieving and spending time in league one). League two is not to be sneered at neither, a glance through the teams in the Blue Square Premier will tell you that. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Next season it is vital we get off to a good start and get this losing mentality out of the club. We have been winning the majority of our games for 5 years before this season so we need to turn it around. Surviving next season still being a league club is essential. Back to the crowd issue and looking at the 3 other likely relegated clubs just confirms how hard it is for us to compete financially at this level without going into debt. Dale's average crowd is 3149, Exeter get 1254 more per game, Wycombe get 1644 more per game, Chesterfield get 3419 more per game. If you take an average admission price of £15, over 23 games they bring in approx 400k,500k and 1 million more than us. | |
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| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:05 - Apr 27 with 614 views | TalkingSutty |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:02 - Apr 27 by dingdangblue |
Next season it is vital we get off to a good start and get this losing mentality out of the club. We have been winning the majority of our games for 5 years before this season so we need to turn it around. Surviving next season still being a league club is essential. Back to the crowd issue and looking at the 3 other likely relegated clubs just confirms how hard it is for us to compete financially at this level without going into debt. Dale's average crowd is 3149, Exeter get 1254 more per game, Wycombe get 1644 more per game, Chesterfield get 3419 more per game. If you take an average admission price of £15, over 23 games they bring in approx 400k,500k and 1 million more than us. |
Interesting figures and with all those extra supporters comes the spin offs on the commercial side of those clubs. I think your post spells out very well the problems we have in competing at league one level on our average attendances. | | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:25 - Apr 27 with 598 views | macro |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:05 - Apr 27 by TalkingSutty |
Interesting figures and with all those extra supporters comes the spin offs on the commercial side of those clubs. I think your post spells out very well the problems we have in competing at league one level on our average attendances. |
bottom 3 clubs in L2 probably are the 3 clubs with the smallest budgets. Hence with the wage ratio they struggle to bring in the calibre of player they would have liked |  | | |
| Relegation to cost Dale £500,000 on 10:38 - Apr 27 with 588 views | IcelandDale |
What our loyal band of happy 2000 don't seem to realise is the greatest marketing asset of the club is you yourselves. You know how much more fun it is to go to the Dale rather than to Man U or City.
Drag your mates there, bore 'em into it and get effing lucky and pick a Bury at home rather than a Stevenage/Tranmere.
If they're not interested offer to take their kids at your expense, (yes I know we're not made of the stuff).
Posters in the Asda car park etc. and gimcrack gimmicks are a waste of money. As if people don't know when there's a game on ffs.
Having said that, the only other interesting idea I've heard is the proposed scheme to let in season ticket holders of other clubs in for a fiver. Bury and Oldham are a waste of time for this though. We need to go to the big two. Do some market research amongst the red and blue fan base. Let 'em pay on the day and get the turnstiles/catering organised to handle this properly. I think there's something to this. I think we could pick up a short term boost and some real fans in the medium/long term.We have to get beyond the 2000 somehow to survive and god forbid prosper.
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