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Wind power is important 17:52 - Feb 23 with 1041 viewsReslovenSwan1

Right wing people hate wind power for some reason. Everyone knows It does not blow everyday and it can go several days without wind. Germans call it 'Dunkelflaute'.

You can follow the percentage of (I presume) electricity generation with this app.

https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/live

Close in 50% wind power. Welsh does not get it's fair share of the generation fees to help us become economically self sustainable.
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Wind power is important on 18:07 - Feb 23 with 926 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

It's patently obvious you need a mix of power sources.

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Wind power is important on 18:35 - Feb 23 with 907 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wind power is important on 18:07 - Feb 23 by JACKMANANDBOY

It's patently obvious you need a mix of power sources.


The breakdown surprised me. Close on 50% wind power today Sunday 23 February 2025.

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Wind power is important on 18:38 - Feb 23 with 904 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I've seen up over 60 percent for wind when the conditions allow, I have also seen next to nothing for wind.

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Wind power is important on 18:45 - Feb 23 with 888 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wind power is important on 18:38 - Feb 23 by JACKMANANDBOY

I've seen up over 60 percent for wind when the conditions allow, I have also seen next to nothing for wind.


There was a windless spell November 2024.

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Wind power is important on 18:52 - Feb 23 with 872 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Wind power is important on 18:45 - Feb 23 by ReslovenSwan1

There was a windless spell November 2024.


Not much sun either I would guess!

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Wind power is important on 20:00 - Feb 23 with 842 viewsmajorraglan

Unfortunately the price we pay for our electric is linked to the cost of the most expensive electricity supply which is gas generated electricity.

If we want to drive costs down, it’s going to mean a massive investment in renewables so that we can avoid turning the gas power plants on.


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electricity-pricing
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Wind power is important on 21:45 - Feb 23 with 795 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wind power is important on 20:00 - Feb 23 by majorraglan

Unfortunately the price we pay for our electric is linked to the cost of the most expensive electricity supply which is gas generated electricity.

If we want to drive costs down, it’s going to mean a massive investment in renewables so that we can avoid turning the gas power plants on.


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electricity-pricing


Being clean never comes cheap or easy. In my kitchen the cheapest way is to never clean and just build up a load of crap and clean it once a month.

It is better and more expensive not to generate any crap and clean every day. It is a principle we live by.

In parts of India they put landfill straight into the river and burn coal. I do not live like them and their lifestyle is their choice and they have to take the consequences. Chinese people become wealthier and will demand clean air to breathe.

I do not see clean living as compromised because some Asians live in and produce crap.
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Wind power is important on 23:01 - Feb 23 with 764 viewsLuther27

Wind power is important on 20:00 - Feb 23 by majorraglan

Unfortunately the price we pay for our electric is linked to the cost of the most expensive electricity supply which is gas generated electricity.

If we want to drive costs down, it’s going to mean a massive investment in renewables so that we can avoid turning the gas power plants on.


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electricity-pricing


The majority of houses in the UK require electric. When it comes to heating however, the majority I imagine use gas but the customer has a choice here by switching to electric heating….solar or even heat pumps.
So…when it comes to raising tax which source do you think the Govt would choose?
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Wind power is important on 07:07 - Feb 24 with 709 viewsfelixstowe_jack

You will probably find right wing people have a high percentage of solar panels, storage batteries EV and heat pumps than left wing people. Your statement is a very bad example of left wing generalisation.

The UK is a country so some parts produce more wind power generated electricity than others. Particularly the North Sea. The whole of the UK benefits.
Just as Wales has benefited in the past and still does from North Sea oil and gas.

The constant theme of yours of trying to be divisive is petty.

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Wind power is important on 07:56 - Feb 24 with 683 viewsKilkennyjack

Wind power is important on 07:07 - Feb 24 by felixstowe_jack

You will probably find right wing people have a high percentage of solar panels, storage batteries EV and heat pumps than left wing people. Your statement is a very bad example of left wing generalisation.

The UK is a country so some parts produce more wind power generated electricity than others. Particularly the North Sea. The whole of the UK benefits.
Just as Wales has benefited in the past and still does from North Sea oil and gas.

The constant theme of yours of trying to be divisive is petty.


Are you on about Brexit again ?

Its also weird how the uk is country and the whole of the uk benefits.
We wish.

London was richest part of Europe but just 3 hours away in south Wales we have some of the poorest parts of Europe.
Does not sound like the whole of the uk benefits does it ?

Many people feel that London and the south east of England runs an exploitative economy in the uk than benefits themselves.

Try google and loook up ‘critical thinking’ ….🇬🇧

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Wind power is important on 08:08 - Feb 24 with 683 viewscontroversial_jack

Wind power is important on 23:01 - Feb 23 by Luther27

The majority of houses in the UK require electric. When it comes to heating however, the majority I imagine use gas but the customer has a choice here by switching to electric heating….solar or even heat pumps.
So…when it comes to raising tax which source do you think the Govt would choose?


The vast majority use gas for heating. I don't know anyone who doesn't.

Heat pumps are rubbish btw, expensive to install too. It would take years to get your money back
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Wind power is important on 08:47 - Feb 24 with 652 viewsAnotherJohn

This is a story about baseload, batteries (storage), and grid capacity. One part of the debate concerns what happens when there is too little wind to meet the baseload requirement, and another is what happens when there is too much. It is estimated that UK consumers forked out E1.3 billion in "curtailment payments" last year to get companies to turn off wind turbines at times when the grid did not have the capacity to store or use the electricity generated.

https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Wind-Power/Brits-Pay-Billions-To-Waste-W
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Wind power is important on 09:09 - Feb 24 with 637 viewsBoundy

Wind power is important on 08:47 - Feb 24 by AnotherJohn

This is a story about baseload, batteries (storage), and grid capacity. One part of the debate concerns what happens when there is too little wind to meet the baseload requirement, and another is what happens when there is too much. It is estimated that UK consumers forked out E1.3 billion in "curtailment payments" last year to get companies to turn off wind turbines at times when the grid did not have the capacity to store or use the electricity generated.

https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Wind-Power/Brits-Pay-Billions-To-Waste-W
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Another problem is until the Grid can accept new connections from new forms of generation then this will continue, there are many new Battery storage sites being approved but again these are at low voltage and tend to feed back into the local grid rather than the national.
Until recently there was a new build wind farm in mid Wales although fully functional couldn't generate as the local grid hadn't had the ability to connect to it. This is repeated across the country where local councils agree to the site being built but it cannot be connected.

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Wind power is important on 12:51 - Feb 24 with 566 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wind power is important on 07:07 - Feb 24 by felixstowe_jack

You will probably find right wing people have a high percentage of solar panels, storage batteries EV and heat pumps than left wing people. Your statement is a very bad example of left wing generalisation.

The UK is a country so some parts produce more wind power generated electricity than others. Particularly the North Sea. The whole of the UK benefits.
Just as Wales has benefited in the past and still does from North Sea oil and gas.

The constant theme of yours of trying to be divisive is petty.


It is you that talks about Wales being " subsidised" and needing handouts. This is your narrative not mine.

It is you being divisive and pretty and disrespectful. We have to put up with these turbine on Welsh land after "Nimbys" right wing areas banned them in England.

I am not to bothered about " sharing of resources" but will not accept being labelled as a nation living on subsidies while we have no control over our assets. You are the main poster on this.

It is a fact. All right wing commentators hate wind farms.

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Wind power is important on 16:17 - Feb 24 with 507 viewsKilkennyjack

Wind power is important on 12:51 - Feb 24 by ReslovenSwan1

It is you that talks about Wales being " subsidised" and needing handouts. This is your narrative not mine.

It is you being divisive and pretty and disrespectful. We have to put up with these turbine on Welsh land after "Nimbys" right wing areas banned them in England.

I am not to bothered about " sharing of resources" but will not accept being labelled as a nation living on subsidies while we have no control over our assets. You are the main poster on this.

It is a fact. All right wing commentators hate wind farms.


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Wind power is important on 23:02 - Feb 24 with 446 viewsmajorraglan

Wind power is important on 08:08 - Feb 24 by controversial_jack

The vast majority use gas for heating. I don't know anyone who doesn't.

Heat pumps are rubbish btw, expensive to install too. It would take years to get your money back


Once you’re outside the main towns, there are a lot of people who don’t have gas.

Heat pumps aren’t rubbish, on a new house they are excellent, but they aren’t suited to older properties.

One of my brother in laws and a couple of his mates have built a few high end houses to sell. The properties are timber frame with a brick outer skin and the amount of insulation in them is unreal. They’ve got quilted insulation on the inside of external walls plus another around 6 inches of Rockwool insulation on top of that, they are very warm and energy efficient.
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Wind power is important on 10:55 - Feb 25 with 355 viewscontroversial_jack

Wind power is important on 23:02 - Feb 24 by majorraglan

Once you’re outside the main towns, there are a lot of people who don’t have gas.

Heat pumps aren’t rubbish, on a new house they are excellent, but they aren’t suited to older properties.

One of my brother in laws and a couple of his mates have built a few high end houses to sell. The properties are timber frame with a brick outer skin and the amount of insulation in them is unreal. They’ve got quilted insulation on the inside of external walls plus another around 6 inches of Rockwool insulation on top of that, they are very warm and energy efficient.
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It's the insulation that keeps the property warm not the heat pumps. You could do the same with gas boilers

My mate has a bungalow on his farm, off grid, well insulated and with a new heat source pump, The rads are always luke warm and the house isn't very warm at all. They are basically crap
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Wind power is important on 14:03 - Feb 25 with 325 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wind power is important on 10:55 - Feb 25 by controversial_jack

It's the insulation that keeps the property warm not the heat pumps. You could do the same with gas boilers

My mate has a bungalow on his farm, off grid, well insulated and with a new heat source pump, The rads are always luke warm and the house isn't very warm at all. They are basically crap


Presumably homeowners can give it a surge of fossil fuels juice to get it up to 20c. It needs to go to luke warm to hot not cold to hot therefore saving money.

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Wind power is important on 14:23 - Feb 25 with 313 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

I’ve asked the question on this site previously as to why we build massive solar farms out in the sticks in the middle of nowhere and spend billions commecting them to the grid whereas it would be far more practical and cheaper long term to put solar panels on every house in the country? My answer? If every house had its own ability to energise itself the energy companies couldn’t make any money. They need to control the supply so they can raise the prices when they want bigger dividends.

It’s a sad truth which is probably (and I admit I’m in conspiracy theory territory here which I despise) holding back the development of technology like fusion power which we’ve known about since the 1940’s, has little waste, is carbon zero, uses the mode abundant element in the universe as its ‘fuel’ and would solve all our energy problems forever.

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Wind power is important on 15:43 - Feb 25 with 275 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Wind power is important on 07:56 - Feb 24 by Kilkennyjack

Are you on about Brexit again ?

Its also weird how the uk is country and the whole of the uk benefits.
We wish.

London was richest part of Europe but just 3 hours away in south Wales we have some of the poorest parts of Europe.
Does not sound like the whole of the uk benefits does it ?

Many people feel that London and the south east of England runs an exploitative economy in the uk than benefits themselves.

Try google and loook up ‘critical thinking’ ….🇬🇧


Not mention on Brexit in my post. Can you actually read?

The only people responsible for some parts of Wales being poor it the Senedd who only spend money in South East Wales. They were poorer when we in the EU. Glad you brought that up.
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Wind power is important on 20:46 - Feb 25 with 197 viewskrunchykarrot

Wind power is important on 10:55 - Feb 25 by controversial_jack

It's the insulation that keeps the property warm not the heat pumps. You could do the same with gas boilers

My mate has a bungalow on his farm, off grid, well insulated and with a new heat source pump, The rads are always luke warm and the house isn't very warm at all. They are basically crap


This post is correct,end of arguement. Add in unreliability no maintenance engineers to service repair and youre in a world of hurt.

What people fail to grasp is if we all buy into the green deal and convert quickly to electric everything (cars heating etc ) say doubling demand how can the grid supply us it is way undersized as it is, if we produce X ammount energy by wind solar we need to build and have the same X ammount in fossil or nuclear for the days when the wind or sun doesnt produce. We have come very close to full capacity fairly recently if i remember correctly. And as for battery farms do me a favour, have a look at the cost and how long they will power a small village let alone the envioremental impact.

I think before long Rolls Royce might have to come to the rescue in SMR's
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Wind power is important on 22:39 - Feb 25 with 162 viewsjack_lord

What about having the option of the micro nuclear reactors. All things thrown in with our energy also being supplied by tidal lagoons.
We are entering a new phase where we are going to see a industrial revolution brought about by the need for renewed national security and also not being reliant on outside energy supplies.

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Wind power is important on 07:31 - Feb 26 with 97 viewsDr_Winston

Wind power is important on 20:00 - Feb 23 by majorraglan

Unfortunately the price we pay for our electric is linked to the cost of the most expensive electricity supply which is gas generated electricity.

If we want to drive costs down, it’s going to mean a massive investment in renewables so that we can avoid turning the gas power plants on.


https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electricity-pricing


The price we pay for energy is linked to our desperate drive for Net Zero, which nobody else is bothering with all that much. Subsidies for renewables, restrictions on building new gas plants, and other measures taken by the last Government and doubled down on with idiotic glee by Ed Milliband.

If we want cheap energy then we need to stop pissing money away on windmills and start building SMR's. We need a dependable base load so anything gained from other sources is a bonus.

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Wind power is important on 09:23 - Feb 26 with 65 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I see BP has signed a £25 Billion agreement to develop oli and gas fields in Iraq.

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Wind power is important on 09:34 - Feb 26 with 59 viewsraynor94

Wind power is important on 09:23 - Feb 26 by JACKMANANDBOY

I see BP has signed a £25 Billion agreement to develop oli and gas fields in Iraq.


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