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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 209427 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:01 - Oct 24 with 1321 viewsBoundy

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:50 - Oct 24 by A_Fans_Dad

Speaking of locking people up.
The President has just granted clemency to Duke Tanner after 16 years in prison.
He was jailed for life for a first, non violent offense under Joe Biden's 1994 Crime bill.
Biden and Harris make a great team for locking people up for longer than they should be.


This gentleman ?


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Oct 24 with 1316 viewsKerouac

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:58 - Oct 24 by Boundy



lying b*stard isn't he.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9VZ1FHxy0
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:20 - Oct 24 with 1306 viewsBoundy

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Oct 24 by Kerouac

lying b*stard isn't he.


or maybe just forgetful ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:48 - Oct 24 with 1291 viewsKilkennyjack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Oct 24 by Kerouac

lying b*stard isn't he.


Who now ?

The President elect ? 😎🇺🇸

Beware of the Risen People

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:16 - Oct 24 with 1262 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:05 - Oct 24 by Dr_Parnassus

What nonsense you spout.

Donald Trump has never been bankrupt, utterly ridiculous to even suggest so, let alone 5 or 6 times

Biden has done anything but serve his country well. In fact he has used his position to lock up Americans for small crimes for decades while taking millions for his own family in corrupt deals.

But whatever makes you happy DJack.


As you are splitting hairs, Trump has had six of HIS business's declare bankruptcy:

#1) Trump Taj Mahal
#2 and #3) Trump’s Castle and Trump Plaza Casinos - CASINOS!!! He failed with CASINOS!!!
#4) Trump Plaza Hotel
#5) Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
#6) Trump Entertainment Resorts


and these companies didn't do well

Trump Steaks
GoTrump (online travel site)
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice (bottled water)
The New Jersey Generals (pro football team)
Tour de Trump (bicycle race)
Trump Network (nutritional supplements)
Trumped! (syndicated radio spot)

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:21 - Oct 24 with 1256 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Oct 24 by Kerouac

lying b*stard isn't he.


As President Trump entered the final stretch of the election season, he began making more than 50 false or misleading claims a day. It’s only gotten worse – so much so that the Fact Checker team cannot keep up.

As of Aug. 27, the tally in our database that tracks every errant claim by the president stood at 22,247 claims in 1,316 days.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:28 - Oct 24 with 1238 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:16 - Oct 24 by DJack

As you are splitting hairs, Trump has had six of HIS business's declare bankruptcy:

#1) Trump Taj Mahal
#2 and #3) Trump’s Castle and Trump Plaza Casinos - CASINOS!!! He failed with CASINOS!!!
#4) Trump Plaza Hotel
#5) Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
#6) Trump Entertainment Resorts


and these companies didn't do well

Trump Steaks
GoTrump (online travel site)
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice (bottled water)
The New Jersey Generals (pro football team)
Tour de Trump (bicycle race)
Trump Network (nutritional supplements)
Trumped! (syndicated radio spot)


So you get caught out for lying and it is me ''splitting hairs''?

A business declaring bankruptcy and someone declaring bankruptcy are not even close to being the same.

You can make millions personally from a business venture on the whole before declaring it bankrupt.Bankruptcy is immediate failure to be able to meet overheads due to finance generation, not historical.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:10 - Oct 24 with 1225 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:28 - Oct 24 by Dr_Parnassus

So you get caught out for lying and it is me ''splitting hairs''?

A business declaring bankruptcy and someone declaring bankruptcy are not even close to being the same.

You can make millions personally from a business venture on the whole before declaring it bankrupt.Bankruptcy is immediate failure to be able to meet overheads due to finance generation, not historical.


I’d say it’s morally wrong to move from business to business, making millions personally then screwing over your creditors.

But like the ray returns, trumps supporters would call it smart.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:15 - Oct 24 with 1218 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:10 - Oct 24 by Gwyn737

I’d say it’s morally wrong to move from business to business, making millions personally then screwing over your creditors.

But like the ray returns, trumps supporters would call it smart.


It can be both morally questionable and smart business at the same time, valid points on either side of that debate.

But it's not the point. It's business, it happens every day, at every single level from a corner shop to a banking firm.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:19 - Oct 24 with 1213 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:10 - Oct 24 by Gwyn737

I’d say it’s morally wrong to move from business to business, making millions personally then screwing over your creditors.

But like the ray returns, trumps supporters would call it smart.


*tax returns - blummin’ auto correct?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:36 - Oct 24 with 1206 viewsNotLoyal

270 million people and these are the two to choose from 😂
Hilarious.

OK I've changed it.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:48 - Oct 24 with 1197 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:36 - Oct 24 by NotLoyal

270 million people and these are the two to choose from 😂
Hilarious.


No, there were hundreds to choose from, but few of them had the cash to run for President. It takes millions of dollars.
So they need backing, if they don't get they can't progress.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:34 - Oct 24 with 1180 viewsBoundy

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:10 - Oct 24 by Gwyn737

I’d say it’s morally wrong to move from business to business, making millions personally then screwing over your creditors.

But like the ray returns, trumps supporters would call it smart.


I think you'll find most successful businessmen regardless of their political views would consider that the smart thing to do

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:17 - Oct 25 with 1164 viewsKerouac

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:48 - Oct 24 by Kilkennyjack

Who now ?

The President elect ? 😎🇺🇸


Apparently Joe can walk and chew gum at the same time, bless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9VZ1FHxy0
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:07 - Oct 25 with 1151 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:34 - Oct 24 by Boundy

I think you'll find most successful businessmen regardless of their political views would consider that the smart thing to do


Psychiatrists often classify them as sociopaths...

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:08 - Oct 25 with 1151 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:17 - Oct 25 by Kerouac

Apparently Joe can walk and chew gum at the same time, bless.


And Trump can lie 50 times every day.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:11 - Oct 25 with 1146 viewsGroo

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:01 - Oct 24 by Boundy

This gentleman ?



You'd swear you were talking about an innocent man put away for a crime he did not commit.

"Tanner was accused of leading the Renegades, a local gang that trafficked thousands of pounds of crack cocaine and marijuana, and was convicted in 2006 of conspiracy to distribute and possession with intent to distribute more than 50 grams of cocaine."

Groo does what Groo does best

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:17 - Oct 25 with 1130 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:11 - Oct 25 by Groo

You'd swear you were talking about an innocent man put away for a crime he did not commit.

"Tanner was accused of leading the Renegades, a local gang that trafficked thousands of pounds of crack cocaine and marijuana, and was convicted in 2006 of conspiracy to distribute and possession with intent to distribute more than 50 grams of cocaine."


He’s a man that certainly doesn’t sound like life imprisonment was warranted.

50 grams of cocaine is like 5k worth according to a site that records average prices. Much of which may or may not have gone up the noses of the people that convinced him.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:36 - Oct 25 with 1096 viewsBoundy

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:07 - Oct 25 by DJack

Psychiatrists often classify them as sociopaths...


All or some ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:39 - Oct 25 with 1094 viewsBoundy

A slip of the tongue or the truth ,who knows but its getting interesting regardless which side you lean to


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:49 - Oct 25 with 1087 viewsA_Fans_Dad

This is just for Djack.
The Chinese GTV has started releasing Hunter Biden photos and videos.
We new they must have them because you can't do anything there without being filmed for blackmail purposes.
I don't know why they have suddenly decided to attack the Bidens after dealing with them, could it be they have lost their usefullness now.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:50 - Oct 25 with 1087 viewschad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:08 - Oct 23 by DJack

So he's served his nation well then whilst Trump inherited an absolute fortune from his father. Has been declared bankrupt 5/6 times and currently the only bank who will deal with him are Deutsche Bank and that loan is underwritten by the STATE OWNED RUSSIAN BANK VTB.



So is he allowed a credit card yet?

Or has it been established he has never been declared bankrupt at all?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:02 - Oct 25 with 1079 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:39 - Oct 25 by Boundy

A slip of the tongue or the truth ,who knows but its getting interesting regardless which side you lean to



He’s clearly talking about prevention, isn’t he? Or are you really suggesting he admitted voter fraud to a worldwide audience?

Mind you, it’s was shared by James Woods, Hollywood’s answer to Katie Hopkins.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:15 - Oct 25 with 1074 viewsBoundy

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:02 - Oct 25 by Gwyn737

He’s clearly talking about prevention, isn’t he? Or are you really suggesting he admitted voter fraud to a worldwide audience?

Mind you, it’s was shared by James Woods, Hollywood’s answer to Katie Hopkins.


I'm not suggesting anything , they 're are his words not mine so I let others judge. I'm ambivalent towards either side .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:23 - Oct 25 with 1072 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:15 - Oct 25 by Boundy

I'm not suggesting anything , they 're are his words not mine so I let others judge. I'm ambivalent towards either side .


So from your position, what do you think he meant?
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