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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 209421 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:40 - Oct 22 with 1314 viewsDJack

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B) is not shit stirring. I quote: “ Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,”

The Biden camp has denied any such meeting took place. Somebody is obviously lying. They were desperate to get the laptop back. Should have just paid the 86 dollars or whatever it was.


So MAYBE Joe Biden met this guy maybe en route to an engagement, maybe as he walked out into the corridor and saw his son with an associate. So what? The Biden diary would reveal planned events so an event unplanned by Joe and his team would not necessarily preclude a coming together, however transitory or of little consequence (to JoeBiden) and obviously not of note for his diary.

Do you find it credible that Hunter carted THREE Macbooks from California to Delaware to take to a repair shop (run by a Trump conspiracy theorist) and just dumped them there with incriminating evidence left on them?

And $85 dollars to go over three Macbooks, pfft.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:45 - Oct 22 with 1313 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:19 - Oct 22 by Dr_Parnassus

So the Russians just happened to write out word for word some real incriminating emails, including real times, real people, real email addresses when they were creating all the thousands of fake emails for the fake hard drive?

Sounds plausible.


More bullshit. All anyone has to do is place a couple "incriminating" emails and or folders amongst a trove of mundane ones. Easily and previously done.

BTW, keeping the thread on track ...even though Trump is trailing badly and he has admitted it himself, I believe that the US elections are that much of a "mess" Trump can still win (In part down to the propaganda machine kicking in on thre Hunter Biden allegations)

For clarity purposes going forward please don't attribute my response to incorrectly match to any of your projections. Please dont attribute a lack of response as an admission of something I've not stated or as an agreemnet with you. I will, just like you, respond to what I wish, when I wish, as I wish.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:50 - Oct 22 with 1309 viewsDJack

And as Twitter is acceptable to you as evidence...Oh dear.




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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:35 - Oct 22 with 1301 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:40 - Oct 22 by DJack

So MAYBE Joe Biden met this guy maybe en route to an engagement, maybe as he walked out into the corridor and saw his son with an associate. So what? The Biden diary would reveal planned events so an event unplanned by Joe and his team would not necessarily preclude a coming together, however transitory or of little consequence (to JoeBiden) and obviously not of note for his diary.

Do you find it credible that Hunter carted THREE Macbooks from California to Delaware to take to a repair shop (run by a Trump conspiracy theorist) and just dumped them there with incriminating evidence left on them?

And $85 dollars to go over three Macbooks, pfft.


I have absolutely no idea what your first part is alluding to or even means.

Secondly, yes I think a crack addict with dubious moral and logical compass would quite easily have dropped his laptops off at a laptop shop for data recovery.

So you are saying this man who own a laptop shop created thousands of fake emails to put onto a laptop hardrive... just happened to perfectly replicate Biden’s wareabouts time and time again as confirmed by the secret service records.... just happened to perfectly guess word for word group emails and texts. This man is a genius not a laptop repair man.

Do you realise how bonkers that sounds?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:38 - Oct 22 with 1300 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:45 - Oct 22 by DJack

More bullshit. All anyone has to do is place a couple "incriminating" emails and or folders amongst a trove of mundane ones. Easily and previously done.

BTW, keeping the thread on track ...even though Trump is trailing badly and he has admitted it himself, I believe that the US elections are that much of a "mess" Trump can still win (In part down to the propaganda machine kicking in on thre Hunter Biden allegations)

For clarity purposes going forward please don't attribute my response to incorrectly match to any of your projections. Please dont attribute a lack of response as an admission of something I've not stated or as an agreemnet with you. I will, just like you, respond to what I wish, when I wish, as I wish.


Which part is bullshit exactly? Specifics.

You aren’t thinking what you are saying. If there are genuine incriminating emails, then why would they create thousands of mundane ones to put them amongst? It is the incriminating email part is the whole point of this... not the mundane.

I can only assume your later rant and forewarning is because you are losing grip of what what a ridiculously feeble argument in the first place?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:36 - Oct 22 with 1265 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:36 - Oct 21 by A_Fans_Dad

So let me see, the head of DNS doesn't count for you, the Senate Oversight Committeee doesn't count for you.
Many non government people don't count for you including Hunter Biden's business partner.
Sorry I am all out out of any more links.
Whereas all the Democrats have are their own controlled mass media, no official sources at all.


Let me help you.

Start with WWW.

Then put in the corresponding address, reporting this news

Finish with the relevant domain name, be it .com, .net etc

It's not difficult. I'm asking you to verify your source, surely you can do that?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:42 - Oct 22 with 1262 viewsJack_Kass

Tick tock (Tiktok), still waiting for a link to further reading regarding the claims around Hunter Biden, child pornography etc

It's not difficult, look what comes up on the first page, on an 'Hunter Biden' entry into Google

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8866457/Laptop-allegedly-belonging-Hunt

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:25 - Oct 22 with 1254 viewsDr_Parnassus

I said more was coming out about China.... it’s coming.

Hunters former business partner that has come forward with 26,000 emails has confirmed that Joe was taking a slice of Chinese deals, yet again held by Hunter to avoid audit.


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:33 - Oct 22 with 1244 viewsDr_Parnassus


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:44 - Oct 22 with 1241 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:33 - Oct 22 by Dr_Parnassus



This is what you have to go on? Seriously?

A Republican senate candidate tweet? From early hours of Wednesday morning (which you could have posted yesterday), citing 'our sources'?

You are happily to readily spread such information, on so little?

So who is correct? The lady in question or Fox News?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/laptop-hunter-biden-linked-fbi-money-laundering
[Post edited 22 Oct 2020 10:44]

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:16 - Oct 22 with 1221 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:44 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

This is what you have to go on? Seriously?

A Republican senate candidate tweet? From early hours of Wednesday morning (which you could have posted yesterday), citing 'our sources'?

You are happily to readily spread such information, on so little?

So who is correct? The lady in question or Fox News?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/laptop-hunter-biden-linked-fbi-money-laundering
[Post edited 22 Oct 2020 10:44]


More from Ms Witzke





I will not post any more of her tweets, as they contravene the rules Keith has set out (my apologies)

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:55 - Oct 22 with 1196 viewsHighjack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:50 - Oct 22 by DJack

And as Twitter is acceptable to you as evidence...Oh dear.





That’s just a smear. Probably the Russians.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:12 - Oct 22 with 1188 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:36 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

Let me help you.

Start with WWW.

Then put in the corresponding address, reporting this news

Finish with the relevant domain name, be it .com, .net etc

It's not difficult. I'm asking you to verify your source, surely you can do that?


Try reading what I have posted before, but just for you.
Read it, all of it.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine%20Report_FINAL.pdf
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:14 - Oct 22 with 1186 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Those Russians, they're everywhere!

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:27 - Oct 22 with 1176 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:12 - Oct 22 by A_Fans_Dad

Try reading what I have posted before, but just for you.
Read it, all of it.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine%20Report_FINAL.pdf


Try again.

I would like to read your sources in regards to the child molestation, and pornography allegations.

Stuff I imagine you wouldn't just post about, in a blase manner, without sources to back it up.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:40 - Oct 22 with 1154 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:27 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

Try again.

I would like to read your sources in regards to the child molestation, and pornography allegations.

Stuff I imagine you wouldn't just post about, in a blase manner, without sources to back it up.


https://www.oom2.com/t72317-former-nypd-commissioner-ive-seen-hunters-hard-drive
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:01 - Oct 22 with 1146 viewsJack_Kass

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https://www.oom2.com/t72317-former-nypd-commissioner-ive-seen-hunters-hard-drive


So from what you've posted from 'out of mind.com'

I have to follow a trail to Bernard B. Kerik, and specifically this tweet



Are you sure that's your source? It's hard to come up with such things from something, that says nothing at all about the allegations you've spoken about.

Is this some sort of sick joke?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:42 - Oct 22 with 1130 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:44 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

This is what you have to go on? Seriously?

A Republican senate candidate tweet? From early hours of Wednesday morning (which you could have posted yesterday), citing 'our sources'?

You are happily to readily spread such information, on so little?

So who is correct? The lady in question or Fox News?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/laptop-hunter-biden-linked-fbi-money-laundering
[Post edited 22 Oct 2020 10:44]


Not sure what you are talking about.

I assume you have misunderstood your own link. There was a subpoena on the laptop in 2019 in an investigation into suspected money laundering.

That has nothing to do with this story, at all. It is showing that the net has been closing in on Hunter for a while... and of course due to the subpoena, it shows the hard drive is far from a Russian hoax.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:45 - Oct 22 with 1123 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:16 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

More from Ms Witzke





I will not post any more of her tweets, as they contravene the rules Keith has set out (my apologies)


What’s your point? She is allowed her opinion isn’t she?

So you are stating that because she has an opinion that you don’t like then she’s a liar?

So to clarify, you are defending this hard drive and this pedophile by stating it’s all been fabricated (even though we know some has already been corroborated).

Like I said, that’s a very odd stance to take.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:52 - Oct 22 with 1120 viewsFieryJack

"I literally have no idea what you just typed, and I read it three times."

"I have absolutely no idea what your first part is alluding to or even means."

"Not sure what you are talking about."

3 classic quotations from Gradgrind.

You can always tell when that bloke is taking a beating because one of his favoured techniques is to feign confusion and ignorance.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:56 - Oct 22 with 1117 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:27 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

Try again.

I would like to read your sources in regards to the child molestation, and pornography allegations.

Stuff I imagine you wouldn't just post about, in a blase manner, without sources to back it up.


You have been shown them. But you only seem to want to accept it if someone says it that has your views on the world.

I’m afraid life... and evidence doesn’t work like that.

In the federal grand jury subpoena, it has been signed by FBI Special Agent Joshua Wilson, who is one of the FBI's top child pornography investigators.

Says it all.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:00 - Oct 22 with 1113 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:52 - Oct 22 by FieryJack

"I literally have no idea what you just typed, and I read it three times."

"I have absolutely no idea what your first part is alluding to or even means."

"Not sure what you are talking about."

3 classic quotations from Gradgrind.

You can always tell when that bloke is taking a beating because one of his favoured techniques is to feign confusion and ignorance.

Face it Gradgrind, Jac Kass had you on the ropes, and now your sprawling on the canvas, gum shield out, taking the ten count, and mumbling that you don't know what's happened 🥊🤣🤣


Nothing is being feigned, the arguments against such obviousness are becoming more and more far fetched and I’m struggling to see the angle.

When I say I have no idea what someone means, that’s exactly what I mean.

For example. A Subpoena being ordered for the laptop in 2019 in a money laundering investigation... what has that got to do whether corruption or child pornography was on the hard drive?

So I have absolutely zero idea what the point of that angle is. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. I can only assume, much like DJack... JackKass doesn’t read or understand the links he posts, just reads a headline and makes it mean what he wants it to mean.

But feel free to explain if it’s any clearer to you. Will be much appreciated.
[Post edited 22 Oct 2020 15:02]

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:55 - Oct 22 with 1085 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:52 - Oct 22 by FieryJack

"I literally have no idea what you just typed, and I read it three times."

"I have absolutely no idea what your first part is alluding to or even means."

"Not sure what you are talking about."

3 classic quotations from Gradgrind.

You can always tell when that bloke is taking a beating because one of his favoured techniques is to feign confusion and ignorance.

Face it Gradgrind, Jac Kass had you on the ropes, and now your sprawling on the canvas, gum shield out, taking the ten count, and mumbling that you don't know what's happened 🥊🤣🤣


It's sad and desperate.

I've asked for sources and all they have is a Republican Senate candidate from DELAWARE (the irony..), who's credibility doesn't stretch far in a political regard, let alone her character background, but she has a blue tick!

Now the story is inevitably changing, amongst the inevitable sense of regret that they've been caught out.

I don't need the last word, they can stew in their own muck. My point has been well made to the stable and rational folk.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:00 - Oct 22 with 1078 viewsKeithHaynes

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:52 - Oct 22 by FieryJack

"I literally have no idea what you just typed, and I read it three times."

"I have absolutely no idea what your first part is alluding to or even means."

"Not sure what you are talking about."

3 classic quotations from Gradgrind.

You can always tell when that bloke is taking a beating because one of his favoured techniques is to feign confusion and ignorance.

Face it Gradgrind, Jac Kass had you on the ropes, and now your sprawling on the canvas, gum shield out, taking the ten count, and mumbling that you don't know what's happened 🥊🤣🤣


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:41 - Oct 22 with 1044 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:01 - Oct 22 by Jack_Kass

So from what you've posted from 'out of mind.com'

I have to follow a trail to Bernard B. Kerik, and specifically this tweet



Are you sure that's your source? It's hard to come up with such things from something, that says nothing at all about the allegations you've spoken about.

Is this some sort of sick joke?


You want to try reading the whole thing.
This is his whole quote.
"I personally had the opportunity to review the hard drive belonging to Hunter Biden. If the @FBI and @TheJusticeDept arrested Paul Manafort, then Hunter, James, and @JoeBiden belongs in handcuffs? AND THAT, is just for starters. #China #Iraq #Ukraine
8:00 PM · Oct 16, 2020

However, Kerik goes on to warn that the nature of the drive’s content means the Bidens have “bigger problems” to worry about than just an FBI investigation.
“Hunter and @JoeBiden have bigger problems than @RudyGiuliani and the @FBI,” Kerik added.
“These images, emails, and other documents were on Hunter’s cell phone and computer… which means the Ukrainian and Chinese intelligence networks has them as well."

I assume that you understand that no one can print the actual evidence, it is illegal.

But I can tell nothing will convince you that there is any truth to the allegations unless the FBI actually do their job for a change and indict them both.
But they won't.
However other people are involved on the fraud allegations now so hopefully that part at least is out of the hands of the corrupt FBI.

As I have said to many other posters on here, you believe what you want and I will believe what I want.
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