| tomorrow can't come quick enough 14:17 - Oct 16 with 2302645 views | batman |
Not for us, but for Bury.
i was credit checking a potential customer and decided to nosey onto
BFC's file and was (or maybe not) supprised to see a new CCJ for circa £22k lodged
only Wednesday this week.
looks like they are in need of a bumper crowd tomorrow to settle some bills |  | | |  |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:52 - Jul 29 with 4793 views | Shun |
A quick scan of ‘Bury fc’ on twitter shows what their mindset is. Every single one of them is actually blaming the EFL. Not one of them has any humility or even the slightest suspicion that this might be the club’s fault and they’re exactly where they deserve to be. Shameless. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:55 - Jul 29 with 4749 views | Cleedale |
Difficult to know which is the worst scenario - bury or bolton; and then there's Cov. playing in Brummie and already saying their home attendances (there) will NOT be enough to sustain the club financially. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:56 - Jul 29 with 4744 views | nordenblue |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:51 - Jul 29 by James1980 |
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Suspended fines or move the deadline again is my guess,the EFL are trying their best to keep them both going as it doesnt paint them in a good light either.
They should bin them both out the league and start at them at the very bottom, how's that for starters.. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:56 - Jul 29 with 4741 views | James1980 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:52 - Jul 29 by Shun |
A quick scan of ‘Bury fc’ on twitter shows what their mindset is. Every single one of them is actually blaming the EFL. Not one of them has any humility or even the slightest suspicion that this might be the club’s fault and they’re exactly where they deserve to be. Shameless. |
The club as an entity cannot be punished is the opinion. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:01 - Jul 29 with 4674 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:51 - Jul 29 by James1980 |
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Is that where bury and Bolton are being made to play? |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:02 - Jul 29 with 4653 views | James1980 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:01 - Jul 29 by TVOS1907 |
Is that where bury and Bolton are being made to play? |
That is the fear of some of their fans | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:08 - Jul 29 with 4590 views | Molly |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:01 - Jul 29 by TVOS1907 |
Is that where bury and Bolton are being made to play? |
Wouldn't that be poetic justice?
It is perhaps significant that the 7.30 statement is from the NWCFL when previous statements re Bury and Bolton have been made by the EFL. | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:09 - Jul 29 with 4578 views | RAFCBLUE |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 18:56 - Jul 29 by nordenblue |
Suspended fines or move the deadline again is my guess,the EFL are trying their best to keep them both going as it doesnt paint them in a good light either.
They should bin them both out the league and start at them at the very bottom, how's that for starters.. |
EFL are between a rock and a hard place with bury on the football creditors point.
On one hand they are saying to clubs they must play all football creditors in full or face consequences.
Except Steve Dale's bury is actively encouraging the consequences to be enacted and the EFL don't have the bottle to follow that through.
Nicky Adams called Dale's bluff publicly and lost. It's the same point being made.
It's pointless putting another financial sanction on an already potless club so my guess would be that there are two options that are open to them:
1. Suspend fixtures indefinitely until such time that bury can pay those players.
2. Add additional points deductions for this season based on other breaches of EFL rules. They did this with Luton who were told they had to take an additional 20 point deduction to stay in the League.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7500435.stm
The hard thing for the EFL is parity - I can't see Bolton getting done as much as bury so the EFL will have to find a way out of treating two clubs in financial demise differently. Expect them to give Bolton (or at least their administrators) some credit for trying. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:23 - Jul 29 with 4423 views | RAFCBLUE |
History (god love it) suggests the EFL will deduct something like a further 9 points per club for the financial irregularity issues:
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow29.htm
Very unlikely for the EFL to do the decent thing and just boot them out of the competition altogether. [Post edited 29 Jul 2019 19:23]
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:24 - Jul 29 with 3860 views | Daley_Lama |
Fans are having to wait longer than players, staff and creditors for psyment.
Erm. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:48 - Jul 29 with 3682 views | judd |
Cheers Sudden lad. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:49 - Jul 29 with 3665 views | 49thseason |
BURY
Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.
As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.
In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.
As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.
Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:51 - Jul 29 with 3643 views | DaleFan7 |
Bad news for everyone's accumulators! | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:53 - Jul 29 with 3599 views | TVOS1907 |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:51 - Jul 29 by DaleFan7 |
Bad news for everyone's accumulators! |
And for Gordon. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:56 - Jul 29 with 3532 views | D_Alien |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:49 - Jul 29 by 49thseason |
BURY
Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.
As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.
In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.
As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.
Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested. |
"Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested."
I'd suggest this has been the plan by SD2 all along - to string things along without bringing the walls crashing in, or at least try to make it look like it's not his fault |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:58 - Jul 29 with 3506 views | MoonyDale |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:49 - Jul 29 by 49thseason |
BURY
Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.
As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.
In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.
As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.
Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested. |
If proof were needed that Dale is screwing them into the ground that last line lays it bare, for the life of me I don't see his end game......Unless this is a carve up between Day, Dale and their mates at the various loan companies.....All very strange. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:59 - Jul 29 with 3479 views | DevonDale |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:49 - Jul 29 by 49thseason |
BURY
Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.
As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.
In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.
As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.
Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested. |
Sounds like there is little “cooperation” from Bury in resolving the outstanding issues that the EFL have... | | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:59 - Jul 29 with 3479 views | 49thseason |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:56 - Jul 29 by D_Alien |
"Not looking good for bury. seemingly the club has not satisfied the EFL's demand for reassurance or even contacted them as requested."
I'd suggest this has been the plan by SD2 all along - to string things along without bringing the walls crashing in, or at least try to make it look like it's not his fault |
well, their fans on twitter are all determined that it is the EFL's fault, nothing to do with living beyond their means for the last 6 years, spending other peoples money on players many in L1 & L2 could only dream of being able to pay. Reality bites. The main gripe seems to be that the EFL allowed Dale to become owner without a "fit and proper person test". The major problem with that being that they haven't bothered to ask the question"what if Day had just let the whole lot fall down around his ears, as he did with Merdeco and the rest of his empire?" If not Dale, then who?
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:12 - Jul 29 with 3318 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 19:23 - Jul 29 by RAFCBLUE |
History (god love it) suggests the EFL will deduct something like a further 9 points per club for the financial irregularity issues:
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow29.htm
Very unlikely for the EFL to do the decent thing and just boot them out of the competition altogether. [Post edited 29 Jul 2019 19:23]
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Some parallels with Bury and Maidstone. I don’t think we’ll be playing Bury this season. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:14 - Jul 29 with 3281 views | RAFCBLUE |
This development is actually better than them going bust.
An automatic guilty charge will now follow under 31.1 for bury for misconduct:
31.1 Any Club failing to fulfil its fixture obligations in respect of any match under the jurisdiction of The League on the appointed date or dates or causing The League to suspend any fixture shall be deemed guilty of misconduct, unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated and remedied prior to the match. Every Club shall carry out regular and appropriate maintenance and checks to ensure that its safety certificate is not suspended or withdrawn.
On Saturday they get to watch every other club enjoy the pure joy and hope of the start of a new season.
The misconduct charge will either have a fine or a points deduction depending on the length and severity and the EFL are not going to decide until the number of games delayed are known - starting with MK Dons and now threatening the Accy away game if they are not done and dusted by Friday.
The League are not going to kick them out. They are going to hold the rule book up and say this is what you have to play to.
That rule book will hold until such time that they are a) compliant or b) expelled under the rules.
I can't wait to see Forever bury's statement tonight.
No football, no plan, no attempt to comply.
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:16 - Jul 29 with 3254 views | Sandyman |
Bolton comply - match on
bury don't comply - match off.
Directing some surreal sort of "blame" at the EFL for bury's continual and blatant mismanagement and overspending (the accounts have been in the public domain for bury fans to see for years) is ridiculous. What did most bury fans do on knowing the clubs finances were out of control and losses were piling up?
#enjoytheride
Did they fight back and challenge the owners like Blackpool did? No. Those who turned a blind eye to what was going on are as culpable as anybody. They loved riding on the SD1 train, with no intention of paying the fare. The ones who tried to raise awareness and actually challenge things years ago are the ones I feel sorry for. And all those owed money.
This could be the first of many postponements. |  | | |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:18 - Jul 29 with 3234 views | RAFCBLUE |
| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 21:59 - Jul 29 by 49thseason |
well, their fans on twitter are all determined that it is the EFL's fault, nothing to do with living beyond their means for the last 6 years, spending other peoples money on players many in L1 & L2 could only dream of being able to pay. Reality bites. The main gripe seems to be that the EFL allowed Dale to become owner without a "fit and proper person test". The major problem with that being that they haven't bothered to ask the question"what if Day had just let the whole lot fall down around his ears, as he did with Merdeco and the rest of his empire?" If not Dale, then who?
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All they have to do is cooperate with the EFL, provide a financial forecast that tracks what is expected over the season and show the money there to pay off those football creditors who are owed money.
It's really simple.
The football creditors were circa £1m and the CVA (at 25p in the £) is circa £1m so all they have to do is stump up £2m plus a plan to show how TV money plus solidarity payment plus gate receipts less player wages is a break even.
They haven't £2m and are trying to blag their way out of that I suspect using this year's income and the EFL are putting up all the right blockers. | |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:20 - Jul 29 with 3206 views | 442Dale |
Now they’re getting annoyed. |  |
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| tomorrow can't come quick enough on 22:22 - Jul 29 with 3178 views | 49thseason |
Bury back in the high court on Wednesday for three times adjourned winding-up petition and now with no visible form of income from football.
And bearing in mind the treatment he and his family have had from some of their fans it would be no surprise if he doesn't turn up on Wednesday either. [Post edited 29 Jul 2019 22:26]
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