 | Forum
Thread | Joe Thomas teams up with Huw Jenkins
at 17:32 26 Jun 2024
At Newport, I was surprised the Swans let him go but congratulations to him on a two year deal 👍
BTW, Daf Williams who some will know on here, big Swans fan is first team coach at Newport. Was at Gloucester City before that. I used to know his uncle Dai, long term friend, a prison officer from Swansea but was based in Devon. Hell of a character. Had to stop him brawling with a couple of lippy Jacks in Palermos. He was a handful but great fun to be with. Died on holiday some years ago now. His son Chris is a great bloke as well, haven’t seen him for a few years.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | The billion pound five year deal
at 10:01 26 Jun 2024
Starts like this. Swans away for the 15th time in 18 opening day fixtures. Every game is televised.
Derby day, home v Cardiff City ATM 24/8/2024. Which is a BH weekend.
Friday, 9 August
Blackburn Rovers v Derby County (20:00 BST)
Preston North End v Sheffield United (20:00 BST)
Saturday, 10 August
Cardiff City v Sunderland
Hull City v Bristol City
Leeds United v Portsmouth
Middlesbrough v Swansea City (12.30pm)
Millwall v Watford
Oxford United v Norwich City
Queens Park Rangers v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Coventry City
Sunday, 11 August
Sheffield Wednesday v Plymouth Argyle (16:00 BST)
Monday, 12 August
Luton Town v Burnley (20:00 BST)
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | Too Ott to handle **Rumour only
at 20:49 25 Jun 2024
Deal is on the brink of falling through.
Numerous sources.
However, I haven’t replied or got back to the reports. So, take with some pinches of salt.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | 🔴 Warnings regards comments that do not help this website
at 16:49 25 Jun 2024
We have had to remove two threads today based on the desire of some to post without any thought for the consequences of what they are saying. We have received multiple reports of abuse and comments which at no time show the website in a good light.
From here on in it’s an automatic ban, no warnings, nada. You know who you are, so stop it now.
The nature of some of the comments have made me extremely angry and if at anytime they affect our relationship with the brain tumour charity I will be personally involved. As will the offender.
Think ffs, and do it quickly. It’s totally disrespectful to the people who work so hard keeping this website informed and interesting to visit, and it most certainly doesn’t reflect well on our cause nor its goals.
If you can’t comment as an adult, leave the site now. TBH I’m absolutely sick of it.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | Kieran Maguire on Swansea City
at 20:37 24 Jun 2024
WOL.
Swansea City confirmed losses of £17.9m in their latest set of accounts (Image: Getty Images)
It's perhaps gone under the radar a little, but Swansea City's owners have ploughed more money into the club's coffers.
Confirming yet another move that would see the issuing of new shares, the Swansea City Supporters' Trust said in a statement: "The Swans Trust can confirm today that a further 110,549 new shares have been issued at a total value of just over £2.5m following fresh investment into the club.
"As per our earlier statements earlier this year this is the latest of a series of cash injections which has been made by Swansea Football LLC, the investment vehicle of the majority owners, which includes Chairman Andy Coleman, Jason Levien, Steve Kaplan, and Jake Silverstein.
"We understand this is the final investment into the club from the majority owners in this financial year."
This is now the fifth time in as many months that the American ownership has decided to make such a move. Over the last 12 months, the issuing of new shares has injected nearly £28m into the club.
It's become an occurrence so regular that this latest announcement was made with next to no fanfare by the club, or indeed the media.
But ahead of what promises to be a very important summer, it has nevertheless piqued the interest of supporters, many of whom might well be wondering what it all means.
Some may take it as an indication that Swansea's American owners are getting serious about the upcoming campaign, others are pondering whether it's perhaps a cause for concern, particularly when placed against the backdrop of a slightly uneasy set of financial results.
The reality is a little more menial. Indeed, Swansea are by no means the only club in this position, particularly in the glorified casino that is the Championship.
"It's not unusual," says football finance guru Kieran Maguire. "There's other clubs, including those in the Championship, that do similar. Preston's owners have effectively given the club £1m a month via a share issue.
"It's an acknowledgement that if you want to go and play in the Championship playground it's a very expensive exercise to go through. The average losses are £400k a week. How do you circumvent that? One of the ways to do that is to issue shares. That's what we've seen here, with Swansea.
"It's better than borrowing money because if you issue shares, you don't have to pay them back. It's the owners putting money into the club to effectively keep the lights on. That sounds very dramatic. But it's not. Every club in the Championship is in a very similar position.
"Swansea were actually mid-table in terms of losses last season. Their losses were half that of Burnley and Sheffield United. Norwich lost close to £30m. Birmingham lost more, so did Bristol City, Blackburn and QPR. So Swansea are about eighth or ninth in the list of losses."
Financial losses will always carry the weight needed to generate a concerning headline, and many will argue that just because other clubs in the division are facing similar challenges doesn't mean the reality of Swansea's balance sheet can just be brushed off.
But for now, Maguire argues, there's little reason to worry.
"Unless the owners decide to do a Mel Morris at Derby and they get bored, or maybe realise that sticking £400k a week into the football club isn't a particularly good use of the children's inheritance.
"If the owners walk away, it then means the club doesn't have the resources to pay the bills on a month-by-month basis. That increases the risk of administration.
"Football clubs are trophy assets and provided the owner is getting some enjoyment out of it, in exactly the same way as they might a helicopter or a private island or a yacht, and we are talking about high-net worth individuals, then it's fine.
"But the owners are the biggest assets because they fund the losses, but they're the biggest risks because if their circumstances or attitudes change. Then the club is in a precarious position."
Given the club has seemingly ruled out any further issuing of new shares for the rest of the year, it appears there's some confidence that there will be enough cash to see them through for the first half of the season, although there's nothing stopping them from ploughing more in should they so wish.
"Issuing new shares is limitless," Maguire says. "Roman Abramovich brought in £1.5bn of financial support for Chelsea. Brighton's owners put in half a billion.
"There's nothing from a legal point of view to stop clubs taking such an approach. It could be that the owners might choose to put in some of the money in the form of interest-free loans as opposed to shares. But that's effectively the same thing - money to keep the lights on."
As with the Swans' latest accounts, the main takeaway that emerges from all this is that the reliance on the American ownership has never been stronger.
"It is very much a dependency relationship as opposed to the owner happening to be very good at what they do," Maguire adds.
That's all very well. But the obvious next question becomes what Swansea's owners actually get out of all this.
"They get the excitement," Maguire says. "There's the potential in 12 months' time to be hosting Liverpool, or Man United or Man City at your stadium. There's that incentive that if they do get to the Premier League and keep it there, then the value of the club does shoot up and you could potentially make a big financial return.
"But it doesn't tend to be a motivation. It's like any other trophy purchase. You might buy a piece of art just to say that you now own that piece of art.
"At any one point in time there's only 20 people on the planet that can say they own a Premier League football club."
A top-flight return still feels a little way off, but the ownership have made no secret of their desire to take the club back to the promised land one day.
Whether they're in a position to give Luke Williams, or indeed any manager, the adequate tools to get there any time soon is perhaps another question. |
| Forum
Thread | Manchester City update
at 20:11 24 Jun 2024
Surfacing in my local paper in Spain. UAE threatening the UK with issues regards diplomatic relations if this proceeds.
A FOOTBALL leaks hacker who revealed alleged wrongdoing by Premier League champions Manchester City has sensationally announced he will release more damning evidence against the club.
Rui Pinto told the Offshore Alert Marbella conference in Estepona’s five-star Kempinksi resort he had ‘a massive file of Manchester City-related documents’ which he has been holding in reserve.
The 35-year-old was speaking to the conference, attended by the Olive Press, via video link from a secure safe house after threats were made against his life.
His initial leak in 2017 prompted football authorities to open an investigation into the Abu Dhabi-owned club for breaking Financial Fair Play rules.
It led to the club being hit with a staggering 115 separate charges by the Premier League.
🔴 A titanic hearing set for the autumn could shake English football to its very core, with the club facing the possibility of relegation to the lower reaches of English football.
Officials from the UAE have even told their British counterparts that such an outcome could affect diplomatic relations.
But the evidence against the Manchester club could be piling up.
“The Man City releases showed amounts of money being paid into by the club that were not mentioned to the football authorities,” Pinto told the Offshore Alert Marbella conference.
“These documents are from part of the Premier League investigation into City.
“I have now handed five hard drives to French and German authorities with millions of documents, including more on City and I have described what is on each.
“I am confident they will find criminal relevancy.”
It led to the club being hit with a staggering 115 separate charges by the Premier League.
A legal representative for Pinto added that the further unreleased files he is holding ‘will be published at some point’.
David Marchant, the organiser of Offshore Alert Marbella, told the Olive Press: “Rui Pinto is undoubtedly the most significant whistleblower in the history of football.”
“His work has already had a dramatic impact in terms of holding players and clubs accountable for their behind-closed-doors actions and it’s evident from his revelations at OffshoreAlert’s recent Marbella Conference that there’s more to come, most notably concerning Manchester City.
“As the saying goes, ‘Truth will out’, particularly in an era when records are routinely stored online.”
The Portuguese has been in a witness protection programme since 2020 while last year he was found guilty of stealing confidential data.
His original leaks saw City hit with a two year ban from European competition and handed a €29 million fine by Uefa in 2020 – only to be overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | Notts County forum on Langstaff
at 11:12 24 Jun 2024
https://prideofnottingham.co.uk/community/topic/12393-macca-to-swansea/
Not sure about the Swansea defence post, but they will be devastated if he goes. If it wasn’t for the vile abuse on Twitter Dave received I would almost feel sorry for them.
Rumours of a medical and contract seems way off.
The only thing that they are missing is we know as do others now that Langstaff remains a priority for Williams. How that affects the bidding, offers, talks, calls and agent involvement only time will tell. |
| Forum
Thread | More shares issued
at 17:38 21 Jun 2024
Seems that’s 5.5 million in the last two months. |
| Forum
Thread | The kiddy missing in Tenerife
at 16:44 21 Jun 2024
Huge back story to this.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/teens-head-split-open-machete-33069
The judge.
“Many of you have found these proceedings amusing throughout the trial and yesterday and today, showing disrespect to the court. I hope for the sake of all your families, the public and the people who have offered you jobs and apprenticeships and the sort that you all grow up. Every one of you deserves to be sent to youth detention.
“Some of you played a more active role in the violent disorder than others, some of you carried weapons, some wore balaclavas but the seriousness of this is the group nature of it. As a group you were all more threatening than you would have been as individuals."
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | What a prat !
at 13:05 21 Jun 2024
Northamptonshire Chief Constable.
Sacked for saying he served in the falklands when he was fifteen !
What an offensive little man.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | League Cup draw
at 00:22 21 Jun 2024
Always nice to reflect on a major trophy win.
This year the Swans are ball number 28.
OS -
Swansea City will be ball number 28 in the draw for the first round of the Carabao Cup. The draw will take place on Thursday, June 27 at 11.30am, and will be televised live on Sky Sports News. The regionalised draw – the Swans are in the southern section – sees 70 clubs across the Championship, League One and League Two enter the competition. First-round ties will take place the week commencing August 12. |
| Forum
Thread | Cow update
at 16:32 17 Jun 2024
With the nation up in arms over the skilled and snap decision making of the officer who stopped Sundays dinner escaping some professionals have had a word.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg33v21weg3o
Had it been a knifeman or gunman you would expect any officer to do the same. To prevent a wild animal, albeit tasty with a selection of sauces from causing danger on a housing estate with kids and all manner of hazards close by in this instance was the correct decision.
Too many people with clouded agendas and points of view with no experience from behind a computer this time around. The coppers should have told them all to poke off. This officer potentially saved serious injury by making a snap decision based on training and instinct. He should be congratulated, but as many know in life, especially with this bizarre UK population the more you do the more shit you get.
This post has been edited by an administrator |
| Forum
Thread | Friendly confirmed
at 13:20 13 Jun 2024
Just had it verified the Swans will play Köln on Wednesday 24th July in Austria, one more side will be confirmed shortly. Season starts on August 10th. |
| | KeithHaynes
|
Site Scores| Forum Votes: | 5258 | | Comment Votes: | -1 | | Prediction League: | 0 | | TOTAL: | 5257 |
|
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.