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2023-2024 Squad 14:21 - Mar 26 with 44255 viewsHullDale

* denotes player in on loan
Italics highlight 2nd year scholar


GK Louie Moulden - Summer 2024*
GK Brad Kelly - Summer 2024
GK Lennon MacLorg - Summer 2024

LB/CB/RB Jimmy Keohane - Summer 2024
LB / LCB Cameron John - Summer 2024
LB Max Conway - January 2024*
CB Ethan Ebanks-Landell - Summer 2024
CB Max Taylor - Summer 2024
CB Kyle Ferguson - Summer 2025
CB George Nevett - Summer 2024
RB Kwaku Oduroh - Summer 2024*

CDM Adam Clayton - Summer 2024
CDM Ryan East - Summer 2024*
CM Harvey Gilmour - Summer 2025
CM Tommy McDermott - January 2024*
CM Brooklyn Bailey - Summer 2024
CAM / LW Oscar Kelly - Summer 2024
RW/CF Tyrese Sinclair - Summer 2024
LW/CF Darren Ehimamiegho - Summer 2024
LW Michael Afuye - Summer 2024
LW/RW Jesurun Uchegbulam - Summer 2025

CF Devante Rodney - Summer 2024
CF Ian Henderson - Summer 2024
CF Kairo Mitchell - Summer 2025
WF Moe Shubbar - Summer 2024

Updated list including the 2nd year scholars - Jim's interview today sounds like they will feature more this season.

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2023-2024 Squad on 14:24 - Mar 26 with 20340 viewsHullDale

With yesterday all but confirming relegation, and clearly financial issues at the club, do we look to offload any on loan players now (if their agreements allow), bite the bullet and put an emphasis on playing players who are contracted to be here next season with the rest of the matchday squad made up of our own players who have impressed & we might want to keep and youth players?

Would save us some cash, and also mean if we have a new manager they at least have a set of real match insight into the players we build next season's squad around.
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2023-2024 Squad on 14:26 - Mar 26 with 20325 viewssomdale

Would deffo look to sign Odoh and Hendo on. Odoh has looked very good recently, best player for me yesterday as well. Hendo at that level would score enough goals to make a new contract worthwhile I'm sure
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2023-2024 Squad on 14:27 - Mar 26 with 20312 viewsTVOS1907

I'm glad you've raised the issue of the potential contract extension for Henderson, because I asked about it when you mentioned it before, but you might have missed it.

I think this was after the Orient game when I'd heard someone on the minibus talking about it as well.

Do you know anything more detailed about it? i.e., is it fact or rumour?
[Post edited 26 Mar 2023 14:28]

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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2023-2024 Squad on 14:31 - Mar 26 with 20305 viewsHullDale

2023-2024 Squad on 14:27 - Mar 26 by TVOS1907

I'm glad you've raised the issue of the potential contract extension for Henderson, because I asked about it when you mentioned it before, but you might have missed it.

I think this was after the Orient game when I'd heard someone on the minibus talking about it as well.

Do you know anything more detailed about it? i.e., is it fact or rumour?
[Post edited 26 Mar 2023 14:28]


Until its confirmed by the club / manager, it will only ever be considered a rumour.

There was certainly plenty of talk about it a few weeks before Orient, as the extension was apparently linked to his number of appearances or starts.

When we signed him last Summer, it was referred to in an article or interview as 'an initial one year contract' which suggests there is some sort of clause to be triggered.

edit: its in this article https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/july/ianhendersonreturns/
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2023-2024 Squad on 14:36 - Mar 26 with 20268 viewsTVOS1907

2023-2024 Squad on 14:31 - Mar 26 by HullDale

Until its confirmed by the club / manager, it will only ever be considered a rumour.

There was certainly plenty of talk about it a few weeks before Orient, as the extension was apparently linked to his number of appearances or starts.

When we signed him last Summer, it was referred to in an article or interview as 'an initial one year contract' which suggests there is some sort of clause to be triggered.

edit: its in this article https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/july/ianhendersonreturns/
[Post edited 26 Mar 2023 14:32]


Cheers.

The way I heard it on the minibus, it sounded like the extension had already been triggered.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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2023-2024 Squad on 14:38 - Mar 26 with 20271 viewsEllDale

Did Sinclair get a deal until 2024?
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2023-2024 Squad on 14:41 - Mar 26 with 20250 viewsDalenet

2023-2024 Squad on 14:24 - Mar 26 by HullDale

With yesterday all but confirming relegation, and clearly financial issues at the club, do we look to offload any on loan players now (if their agreements allow), bite the bullet and put an emphasis on playing players who are contracted to be here next season with the rest of the matchday squad made up of our own players who have impressed & we might want to keep and youth players?

Would save us some cash, and also mean if we have a new manager they at least have a set of real match insight into the players we build next season's squad around.


Seems sensible. Or transfer list the majority and see who decides to play to either stay or to market themselves. Won't do anything for next seasons sales knowing many of those players will be around
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:00 - Mar 26 with 20186 viewssamueloneils

I`m pretty sure Sinclair`s contract does go to 2024
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:10 - Mar 26 with 20147 viewsA_Newby

2023-2024 Squad on 14:38 - Mar 26 by EllDale

Did Sinclair get a deal until 2024?


Yes he did.

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/july/sinclairsigns/
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:12 - Mar 26 with 20140 viewsHullDale

Good spot - updated.
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:16 - Mar 26 with 20110 viewsShun

I’d obviously offer Lloyd a contract, fully expecting him to leave. I’d also offer a contract to Odoh. I accept I like him more than most, but I do think he’ll have his suitors in the FL.

Of the players listed I’d be doing everything humanly possible to offload EEL, John, Ball and Campbell.

I think in Rodney, Henderson, Mullarkey (if he stays), O’Donnell and Sinclair we’ll have a few players who are capable at that level.
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:38 - Mar 26 with 20055 viewsSaxonDale

It’s amazing that in John, Sinclair, Rodney and even O’Donnell that we offered 2 year contracts for players that presumably weren’t deemed good enough for this level by their previous clubs.
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:44 - Mar 26 with 20026 viewsseasidedale

I’m sure I read somewhere that odoh’ contract had been extended
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2023-2024 Squad on 15:52 - Mar 26 with 20002 viewsEllDale

2023-2024 Squad on 15:38 - Mar 26 by SaxonDale

It’s amazing that in John, Sinclair, Rodney and even O’Donnell that we offered 2 year contracts for players that presumably weren’t deemed good enough for this level by their previous clubs.


I thought John had been offered a new contract by Doncaster but signed for Dale instead?
Presumably for the money.
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2023-2024 Squad on 16:08 - Mar 26 with 19962 viewselectricblue

2023-2024 Squad on 15:16 - Mar 26 by Shun

I’d obviously offer Lloyd a contract, fully expecting him to leave. I’d also offer a contract to Odoh. I accept I like him more than most, but I do think he’ll have his suitors in the FL.

Of the players listed I’d be doing everything humanly possible to offload EEL, John, Ball and Campbell.

I think in Rodney, Henderson, Mullarkey (if he stays), O’Donnell and Sinclair we’ll have a few players who are capable at that level.


I would keep Ball next season as he could do the job in the NL....
The others can go...

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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2023-2024 Squad on 16:17 - Mar 26 with 19904 viewsTVOS1907

2023-2024 Squad on 15:52 - Mar 26 by EllDale

I thought John had been offered a new contract by Doncaster but signed for Dale instead?
Presumably for the money.


He was released by Doncaster.

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2022/may/202122-retained-and-released-l

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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2023-2024 Squad on 16:20 - Mar 26 with 19904 viewsNorthernDale

I would seek to keep Hendo and hopefully he is under contrct due to the option being activated, but I would also try to keep Kelly and Lloyd.

I can see Brierley transfer to Blackburn going through and I can see somebody coming for Mullarkey, because he has stood out since signing for us and may not fancy a return to the National League.

If you looked at Rodney and Sinclair, their going record as never been good, but to be fair Rodney has scored is it, 8 goals this season, but Stockdale's inexperience showed in free transfers 2 year contracts, when it is normal for them to get 1 year contracts. If players like John, EEL and Rodney had 1 year deals, do you think they may be more interested and up for the fight, but having a 2 year contract, means they have a guaranteed income for next season, then they can just go through the motions.

We may be able to offload Sinclair and Campbell on free's, but to be honest, who is going to sign John, EEL and Ball, even offered on a free transfer.
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2023-2024 Squad on 16:34 - Mar 26 with 19859 viewsA_Newby

2023-2024 Squad on 15:44 - Mar 26 by seasidedale

I’m sure I read somewhere that odoh’ contract had been extended


Odoh's contract finishes at the end of the 2022/23 season but the club have an option in their favour for a one year extension beyond this.

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2021/december/contractnews_abrahamodoh/
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2023-2024 Squad on 16:37 - Mar 26 with 19845 viewskel

2023-2024 Squad on 16:08 - Mar 26 by electricblue

I would keep Ball next season as he could do the job in the NL....
The others can go...


I’d rather play with 10 men every week than play him. I’ll carry him to his next club on my back if he wants.
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2023-2024 Squad on 21:46 - Mar 26 with 19586 viewsPlattyswrinklynuts

2023-2024 Squad on 16:08 - Mar 26 by electricblue

I would keep Ball next season as he could do the job in the NL....
The others can go...


Not in a million years. The guys toxic & clearly doesn’t want to be here. Offload now. Pay his contract out if necessary.
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2023-2024 Squad on 22:19 - Mar 26 with 19512 viewsShun

2023-2024 Squad on 16:20 - Mar 26 by NorthernDale

I would seek to keep Hendo and hopefully he is under contrct due to the option being activated, but I would also try to keep Kelly and Lloyd.

I can see Brierley transfer to Blackburn going through and I can see somebody coming for Mullarkey, because he has stood out since signing for us and may not fancy a return to the National League.

If you looked at Rodney and Sinclair, their going record as never been good, but to be fair Rodney has scored is it, 8 goals this season, but Stockdale's inexperience showed in free transfers 2 year contracts, when it is normal for them to get 1 year contracts. If players like John, EEL and Rodney had 1 year deals, do you think they may be more interested and up for the fight, but having a 2 year contract, means they have a guaranteed income for next season, then they can just go through the motions.

We may be able to offload Sinclair and Campbell on free's, but to be honest, who is going to sign John, EEL and Ball, even offered on a free transfer.


Let’s not forget that Rodney’s 8 goals have come in a season where, for a large part, he’s been played as a winger. He’s better when played as a striker. I fancy him to reach double figures next season.
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2023-2024 Squad on 22:22 - Mar 26 with 19502 views442Dale

I know he’s cropped up about recently, so this observation is intended purely in isolation…

Keith Hill would have made Rodney into our next 300k departure up the leagues.

Poll: Greatest Ever Dale Game

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2023-2024 Squad on 22:58 - Mar 26 with 19444 viewsChaffRAFC

2023-2024 Squad on 22:19 - Mar 26 by Shun

Let’s not forget that Rodney’s 8 goals have come in a season where, for a large part, he’s been played as a winger. He’s better when played as a striker. I fancy him to reach double figures next season.


Rodney has 9 league goals and 10 in all competitions this season.

I wouldn't be actively looking to offload him for next season because, like you said, I think he'd do quite well at NL level but if he left us, I wouldn't cry about it either.

If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor

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2023-2024 Squad on 10:04 - Mar 27 with 19251 viewsDaleFan7

Given that Brierley will almost certainly leave.

There's only Mullarkey in that list that I'd actively try and keep the rest can go on the transfer list, which is sad. I think he'll be off anyway, someone will have seen us play and take a punt on him.

I look at that list and despair for what we're going to look like next season, too.
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2023-2024 Squad on 14:57 - Mar 27 with 19026 viewsjonahwhereru

Thanks for promoting this debate. The conjecture is interesting, but in all honesty it all depends on how many contracted players do what what Rathbone and Humphrys did last year and say they don’t want to be here.
My bet is O’Donnell (without a doubt league standard, Mullarkey (same applies); John and Ball and Campbell are out in the cold and I can see them wanting to go.
I think EEL still believes he is league level. Taylor is interesting, think he would be good for us in the National but will his agent be in his ear, saying he can do better? Trouble is CH’s in the worst team in the league don’t have much cache.
So that could leave us with just Dave and Sinclair. So plenty of scope for a new manager to put his stamp on things.
New deals for both Hendo and Odoh would be a yes from me.
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