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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” 20:42 - Dec 1 with 4719 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Makes a bloody change mate.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 09:45 - Dec 3 with 1256 viewsDr_Winston

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:17 - Dec 2 by Boundy

In my humble opinion it was Flynn who started the process , much harder to do when creating a style , Martinez tweaked it and admittedly improved it but was Flynn who set us on our way


In my humble opinion Flynn was a waste of space. We were mid table in League Two and spiralling downwards when he got the sack for not even bothering to come all the way back with the team from yet another embarassing away defeat. He was a lazy, useless, tactically incompetent berk.

Martinez undoubtedly started the pretty football, but the person who actually instilled professionalism back into the club after several years of chaos was Kenny Jackett, and he'll never get the credit he deserves for it.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 22:53 - Dec 4 with 1182 viewsThrasher6

Judas I is history....ta ra...

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 07:35 - Dec 5 with 1155 viewsbuilthjack

Martinez wants to be Loyal.
I thought he was NotLoyal.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 10:22 - Dec 5 with 1142 viewsBoundy

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 09:45 - Dec 3 by Dr_Winston

In my humble opinion Flynn was a waste of space. We were mid table in League Two and spiralling downwards when he got the sack for not even bothering to come all the way back with the team from yet another embarassing away defeat. He was a lazy, useless, tactically incompetent berk.

Martinez undoubtedly started the pretty football, but the person who actually instilled professionalism back into the club after several years of chaos was Kenny Jackett, and he'll never get the credit he deserves for it.


As you say " opinion"

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:29 - Dec 5 with 1112 viewsReslovenSwan1

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 09:45 - Dec 3 by Dr_Winston

In my humble opinion Flynn was a waste of space. We were mid table in League Two and spiralling downwards when he got the sack for not even bothering to come all the way back with the team from yet another embarassing away defeat. He was a lazy, useless, tactically incompetent berk.

Martinez undoubtedly started the pretty football, but the person who actually instilled professionalism back into the club after several years of chaos was Kenny Jackett, and he'll never get the credit he deserves for it.


Tate. Britton. Trunde. Robinson. Martinez all signed by Flynn. Two still around the club one only left last season after 20 years at the club. This post ranks as one of the worst I have read on this forum and that includes the Frank Zappa (useful idiot poodle).

Jacketts once picked 6 centre backs for Swansea.

Gueret in front of a sold six.

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Amankwak came as a CB converted to FB. SIX centre backs. Needless to say the performance was uninspiring,
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 15:27 - Dec 5 with 1081 viewsReslovenSwan1

It is peculiarity of Swansea fans and it is inversionally proportional.

THE BETTER YOU DO THE MORE THE JACKS HATE YOU..

It is the 'Jackett syndrome'. Do not do well do not do badly. Just be OK and be loved. Attractive football? Jackett not required.

Martinez, Flynn, Brendan, Morgan, Jenkins all in the dog house. It is the logic of 'stone cold losers'.

The organisation owned by the fans are the definition of this. They have negotiated a 5% holding for ever for the perks and a place on the board and now can go back to sleep.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 15:53 - Dec 5 with 1068 viewsonehunglow

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:29 - Dec 5 by ReslovenSwan1

Tate. Britton. Trunde. Robinson. Martinez all signed by Flynn. Two still around the club one only left last season after 20 years at the club. This post ranks as one of the worst I have read on this forum and that includes the Frank Zappa (useful idiot poodle).

Jacketts once picked 6 centre backs for Swansea.

Gueret in front of a sold six.

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Amankwak came as a CB converted to FB. SIX centre backs. Needless to say the performance was uninspiring,
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Never seen or anyone refer to Flynn as a waste of space .
If nothing else,the guy was decent,honest and actually a local lad .

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 15:56 - Dec 5 with 1059 viewsWhiterockin

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 15:53 - Dec 5 by onehunglow

Never seen or anyone refer to Flynn as a waste of space .
If nothing else,the guy was decent,honest and actually a local lad .


If you don't take into account that he spent most of his time in Burnley instead of here working.
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:17 - Dec 5 with 1020 viewsDr_Winston

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 15:56 - Dec 5 by Whiterockin

If you don't take into account that he spent most of his time in Burnley instead of here working.


Innit.

Even Trundle gave KJ the credit for finally turning him into a proper professional footballer in terms of his fitness and dedication.

They spent much of their time on the piss when Flynn was manager.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:28 - Dec 5 with 1005 viewsWhiterockin

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:17 - Dec 5 by Dr_Winston

Innit.

Even Trundle gave KJ the credit for finally turning him into a proper professional footballer in terms of his fitness and dedication.

They spent much of their time on the piss when Flynn was manager.


Flynn was an excellent scout and spotter of talent for us and Wales, that's why we re-employed him as a scout when we were in the Premier League. As for a coach/manager he was usless and lacked any commitment, relying on his backroom staff to do his job. He wanted to be in Swansea two days a week and often turned up mid morning for matches. The club correctly threw him out.
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:49 - Dec 6 with 945 viewsDr_Winston

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:28 - Dec 5 by Whiterockin

Flynn was an excellent scout and spotter of talent for us and Wales, that's why we re-employed him as a scout when we were in the Premier League. As for a coach/manager he was usless and lacked any commitment, relying on his backroom staff to do his job. He wanted to be in Swansea two days a week and often turned up mid morning for matches. The club correctly threw him out.


Flynn was big mates with Kevin Reeves who was an excellent scout and spotter of talent. Take Reeves away and you've got an idiot who couldn't even be bothered to put in a three day week.

I'm not generally a huge backer of footballing conspiracy theories, but I do give some credence to the one where Flynn is forced to play James Thomas, who had managed twelve goals in about fifteen games before the Port Talbot midget forced him out wide into irrelevancy, back in the central strikers position, resulting in four goals in two games that kept us up.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 22:06 - Dec 6 with 935 viewsDr_Parnassus

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 09:45 - Dec 3 by Dr_Winston

In my humble opinion Flynn was a waste of space. We were mid table in League Two and spiralling downwards when he got the sack for not even bothering to come all the way back with the team from yet another embarassing away defeat. He was a lazy, useless, tactically incompetent berk.

Martinez undoubtedly started the pretty football, but the person who actually instilled professionalism back into the club after several years of chaos was Kenny Jackett, and he'll never get the credit he deserves for it.


My eyes are bleeding reading that guff.

It’s incredible how quickly a posters quality plummets over the years. This year you seem to have just morphed into simply click bait and abuse type trolling.

Yuck

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 12:34 - Dec 7 with 888 viewsReslovenSwan1

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 16:56 - Dec 2 by pencoedjack

I think there is about 4500 Swans fans who would disagree with you & travelled mid week to Wigan to let Bobby know what they thought of him.

He’s a slime ball.


4500 fans cannot be wrong Right? You bet they can. I saw that game. MOM was Nathan Dyer as a centre forward . He ran the Wigan CB lumps ragged. Signed by Roberto.

Roberto sold him the Swansea dream and left . Dyer was none too pleased i suspect. One of his best games after Wembly obviously.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:22 - Dec 7 with 864 viewsTreforys_Jack

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 22:06 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus

My eyes are bleeding reading that guff.

It’s incredible how quickly a posters quality plummets over the years. This year you seem to have just morphed into simply click bait and abuse type trolling.

Yuck


Thought it was pretty decent, which parts do you specifically disagree with ?
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:22 - Dec 7 with 846 viewsDr_Parnassus

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 17:22 - Dec 7 by Treforys_Jack

Thought it was pretty decent, which parts do you specifically disagree with ?


The name calling and abuse towards one of the most important managers in our history.

We were in League 2, we are hardly going to get Pep.

Flynn was excellent for us and his work to acquire players such as Trundle, Robbo, Martinez etc put us on the map and laid the foundation for the likes of Martinez.

Silly jibes about his appearance won’t go down well with fans that remember.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:45 - Dec 7 with 838 viewsonehunglow

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:22 - Dec 7 by Dr_Parnassus

The name calling and abuse towards one of the most important managers in our history.

We were in League 2, we are hardly going to get Pep.

Flynn was excellent for us and his work to acquire players such as Trundle, Robbo, Martinez etc put us on the map and laid the foundation for the likes of Martinez.

Silly jibes about his appearance won’t go down well with fans that remember.


Yet Flynn denigrated by a forum heavyweight .

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 03:59 - Dec 8 with 834 viewsTreforys_Jack

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 21:22 - Dec 7 by Dr_Parnassus

The name calling and abuse towards one of the most important managers in our history.

We were in League 2, we are hardly going to get Pep.

Flynn was excellent for us and his work to acquire players such as Trundle, Robbo, Martinez etc put us on the map and laid the foundation for the likes of Martinez.

Silly jibes about his appearance won’t go down well with fans that remember.


The name calling was after your post so you weren't referring to that, Flynn lost interest if I remember correctly and was in danger of undoing his previous good work. Similar, albeit leagues and yrs apart to ML.
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 05:21 - Dec 8 with 826 viewsDr_Parnassus

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 03:59 - Dec 8 by Treforys_Jack

The name calling was after your post so you weren't referring to that, Flynn lost interest if I remember correctly and was in danger of undoing his previous good work. Similar, albeit leagues and yrs apart to ML.


What post were you reading then?

Calling him a waste of space? An incompetent berk? Lazy and useless?

It’s in the post I replied to and he clearly was nothing of the sort. Not something I’m going to lie about.

He then continued the theme talking about his appearance. Awful stuff.

He was, and will remain, fondly remembered as a very important figure in getting this club back on the map by those who know what’s what, not forgetting masterminding the great escape when we looked completely doomed.

Expecting a polished and finished article of a manager at that level for a club like ours is silly. Of course he had flaws, if he didn’t he wouldn’t have been with us. But despite his flaws he managed to achieve superb things with us and lay a wonderful foundation - criticising a bottom of league 2 manager for having flaws is the epitome of futile.
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 06:14 - Dec 8 with 815 viewsTreforys_Jack

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 05:21 - Dec 8 by Dr_Parnassus

What post were you reading then?

Calling him a waste of space? An incompetent berk? Lazy and useless?

It’s in the post I replied to and he clearly was nothing of the sort. Not something I’m going to lie about.

He then continued the theme talking about his appearance. Awful stuff.

He was, and will remain, fondly remembered as a very important figure in getting this club back on the map by those who know what’s what, not forgetting masterminding the great escape when we looked completely doomed.

Expecting a polished and finished article of a manager at that level for a club like ours is silly. Of course he had flaws, if he didn’t he wouldn’t have been with us. But despite his flaws he managed to achieve superb things with us and lay a wonderful foundation - criticising a bottom of league 2 manager for having flaws is the epitome of futile.
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Didn't he refuse to travel from Burnley midweek, to take training sessions during that second season. Agree he did a sterling job keeping us up, but definitely lost interest and motivation and was rightly moved on, which preserved his legacy.
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 07:48 - Dec 8 with 800 viewsDr_Parnassus

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 06:14 - Dec 8 by Treforys_Jack

Didn't he refuse to travel from Burnley midweek, to take training sessions during that second season. Agree he did a sterling job keeping us up, but definitely lost interest and motivation and was rightly moved on, which preserved his legacy.


Lots of people have refused to do things. Laudrup, Guidolin, Gylfi and Pato being four that immediately come to mind.

Would any of the above receive such abuse? Most certainly not. Flynn ranks above a fair few people often seen as instrumental to our rise that nobody would have a bad word said about.

Again, a league 2 manager, 20 years ago being held to todays standards is silly.

A waste of space, incompetent and a berk he most certainly wasn’t.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 12:56 - Dec 8 with 772 viewsvetchonian

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 07:48 - Dec 8 by Dr_Parnassus

Lots of people have refused to do things. Laudrup, Guidolin, Gylfi and Pato being four that immediately come to mind.

Would any of the above receive such abuse? Most certainly not. Flynn ranks above a fair few people often seen as instrumental to our rise that nobody would have a bad word said about.

Again, a league 2 manager, 20 years ago being held to todays standards is silly.

A waste of space, incompetent and a berk he most certainly wasn’t.


We may well be in the National league now if it were not for Flynn it seems many choose to forget that ….

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 13:41 - Dec 8 with 761 viewsTreforys_Jack

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 12:56 - Dec 8 by vetchonian

We may well be in the National league now if it were not for Flynn it seems many choose to forget that ….


Define "many".
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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:09 - Dec 8 with 754 viewsReslovenSwan1

Flynn was raised in Port Talbot but home in Burnley. No doubt he could stay in Port Talbot with family when in his work duties no bother at all .

I am sure he was not an absentee coach. I recall Huw Jenkins wanted him to commit longer term and requested he moved down which BF might have declined to do. When results turned it became a bigger issue and a justification for moving on. HJ then declared any new coach like Jackett Laudrup etc had to be resident in Swsnsea.

I recall Laudruo was sacked after visiting some function his daughter had in Paris and giving the team a day off after a poor performance v West Ham. Same result. It is the results.

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:29 - Dec 8 with 747 viewsvetchonian

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:09 - Dec 8 by ReslovenSwan1

Flynn was raised in Port Talbot but home in Burnley. No doubt he could stay in Port Talbot with family when in his work duties no bother at all .

I am sure he was not an absentee coach. I recall Huw Jenkins wanted him to commit longer term and requested he moved down which BF might have declined to do. When results turned it became a bigger issue and a justification for moving on. HJ then declared any new coach like Jackett Laudrup etc had to be resident in Swsnsea.

I recall Laudruo was sacked after visiting some function his daughter had in Paris and giving the team a day off after a poor performance v West Ham. Same result. It is the results.


Yet despite an indifferent results record it seems the current manager/coach is going to have his contract extended

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Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 19:09 - Dec 8 with 713 viewsKeithHaynes

Roberto Martinez: “I always wanted to be loyal and finish the job.” on 14:29 - Dec 8 by vetchonian

Yet despite an indifferent results record it seems the current manager/coach is going to have his contract extended


And so he should, he’s a positive and intelligent football manager with a huge figure ahead of him.

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