| Labour/ Plaid Deal 11:03 - Nov 25 with 6775 views | CwmafanJack |
Huge gameble by plaid or calculated risk to get Wales closer to independence. For me it's a massive risk after Adam price stating he is not in it for doing deals with other parties.
Will independence happen with in 2, 5 or even 10 years? Or will it just be a pipe dream? |  |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:09 - Nov 25 with 3049 views | RonaldStump |
Will NEVER happen! The corporation won't allow it | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:11 - Nov 25 with 3072 views | onehunglow |
Think yiu know the answer there. This has been going all my life and is no closer
It’s popular up in Gwynedd and with kids but not with many else
It’s best to have some clout in this world | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 25 with 3059 views | YouBackJastard |
My policy when voting is essentially ‘anyone but a Tory’. Last election I voted for Plaid because I preferred the candidate but could easily find myself voting for Welsh Labour given I back their politics.
This deal is fantastic news to me at first glance. Ensures sensible and mature left-leaning politics brought to the forefront of discussions. Well done Adam Price and Drakeford. | | | |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:24 - Nov 25 with 3056 views | onehunglow |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard |
My policy when voting is essentially ‘anyone but a Tory’. Last election I voted for Plaid because I preferred the candidate but could easily find myself voting for Welsh Labour given I back their politics.
This deal is fantastic news to me at first glance. Ensures sensible and mature left-leaning politics brought to the forefront of discussions. Well done Adam Price and Drakeford. |
You need to free yourself.
Im often anyone but Labour but right now,I would not vote at all a Johnon is so inept. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:29 - Nov 25 with 3049 views | YouBackJastard |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:24 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
You need to free yourself.
Im often anyone but Labour but right now,I would not vote at all a Johnon is so inept. |
I don’t like Keir Starmer but I’d happily vote for you OHL before I vote for a member of the conservative party. | | | |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:31 - Nov 25 with 3041 views | onehunglow |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:29 - Nov 25 by YouBackJastard |
I don’t like Keir Starmer but I’d happily vote for you OHL before I vote for a member of the conservative party. |
Thanks.
Voting for me will see you in Purgatory.
I 'll be in Burning Hell to receive you. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:38 - Nov 25 with 3031 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
As I said on the other thread, if plaid want any serious electoral success they have to stop being essentially a minor wing of the Labour Party, propping them up and supporting them and become their own independent (no pun intended) entity with their own identity and the ruthless attitude that Labour are their opposition and to chase the Labour votes with the unbridled aggression of a thousand suns.
I have had this conversation with people quite high up in the party but I get the feeling they are happy plodding along as they are. | | | |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:06 - Nov 25 with 3013 views | Dr_Winston |
I doubt that there's many people high up in Plaid that actually want independence.
They're much happier apeing the Corbyn wing of the Labour party and being professional protesters rather than having to face the horrible reality of delivering on their promises.
Keep their core support like Kilks and Trampie happy with enough sloganeering to keep voting them in and thus maintain their positions at the trough come election time, and most will be happy with that. |  |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:53 - Nov 25 with 2984 views | Catullus |
The deal just proved that Price is a liar, a hypocrite or even both. Drakeford just wanted a guarantee that what he wants gets through the Senedd.
When Kilkenny talks about who voted for what, who voted for a Labour/Plaid coalition?
Nobody.
We have a political arrangement to circumvent democracy. I wonder what Drakeford offered Plaid (that we don't know about) to get them on board?
That bloke that interviewed price and actually asked him will we be dragging ths out of the archives in 6(?) months time, he's a fortune teller! | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 14:23 - Nov 25 with 2961 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 12:06 - Nov 25 by Dr_Winston |
I doubt that there's many people high up in Plaid that actually want independence.
They're much happier apeing the Corbyn wing of the Labour party and being professional protesters rather than having to face the horrible reality of delivering on their promises.
Keep their core support like Kilks and Trampie happy with enough sloganeering to keep voting them in and thus maintain their positions at the trough come election time, and most will be happy with that. |
During the last election when they decided not to run at all in 11 Welsh constituencies to give Labour a clear run showed their lack of ambition acutely. Not the behaviour you would expect from “the party of Wales”.
They are nothing but lackeys and stooges for Labour at this point and as you correctly surmise they have fully jumped down the rabbit hole of overly woke, corbynistic gender and race based student politics nonsense. | | | |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 16:31 - Nov 25 with 2919 views | trampie |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:04 - Nov 25 with 2900 views | trampie |
Plaid forcing Welsh Labour to adopt Plaid policies otherwise no deal.  | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:12 - Nov 25 with 2892 views | trampie |
I'm now see that some Tories are saying 'vote Labour get Plaid'. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:15 - Nov 25 with 2883 views | trampie |
I see Question Time is on tonight from Kaardiff, with super Lizzie Saville going in to bat for Plaid. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:17 - Nov 25 with 2880 views | onehunglow |
What inDy have to realise that if Wales went truly independent ,then they would have to replace their world class specialist treatment of cancer, neurological and heart specialist hospitals the hated English provide on Merseyside not forgetting Alder Hey which ave countless Welsh children's lives.
Literally a death sentence | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:26 - Nov 25 with 2869 views | trampie |
Drakers speaks, Plaid getting him to enact their policies, he is even going to do something about second homes, if that is not a Plaid policy I don't know what is. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 with 2860 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Something tells me this won't end well. |  |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:45 - Nov 25 with 2845 views | Flashberryjack |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Something tells me this won't end well. |
For whom ? |  |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:50 - Nov 25 with 2836 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
We the people of Wales, more MSs and political alliances smells like inward looking government. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:14 - Nov 26 with 2726 views | trampie |
Will Welsh Labour breakaway from the UK Labour party ?, Plaid will get some 'socialist' policies enacted via the deal so it seems.
UK Labour is just a Tory lite party time for Welsh Labour to split from UK Labour. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:20 - Nov 26 with 2715 views | trampie |
Welsh Labour and UK Labour party seem to be going in different directions. | |
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| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:21 - Nov 26 with 2711 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:20 - Nov 26 by trampie |
Welsh Labour and UK Labour party seem to be going in different directions. |
They’re both going backwards though. | | | |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 11:43 - Nov 26 with 2699 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Labour/ Plaid Deal on 17:40 - Nov 25 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Something tells me this won't end well. |
This is great news for the people of Cymru.
Given Englands Tory Brexit, the dreadful pandemic, and the increasing hostility from London towards our devolved Parliaments then a new political answer was needed for Cymru.
Drakers has picked out the Plaid policies that made sense and could be delivered, and he has got the deal done.
Wales is not Tory England. |  |
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