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Cardiff City v Swansea City
Leckwith ish.
Saturday December 12th 2020
Kick off 12.30pm
Officials
JOHN BROOKS
Nick Greenhalgh and Akil Howson
Fourth Official : Keith Stroud
TV : Swans TV & Sky Sports
It’s Welsh derby time, the real Welsh derby where by all accounts form counts for nothing. Over the years it’s apparent that the swans hold the kudos as Wales premier footballing team, no doubt. Compared to Cardiff who have spent two unsuccessful seasons in the premier league the swans have had a top ten finish, wowed the football world with their style of play, and won a major trophy. European campaigns are ‘foreign’ to Cardiff.
What is a Cardiff
To be perfectly honest a Cardiff is a thing of joy, an ever evolving gift of failure and unhappiness, and joy for all swans fans. Having taken four points off them last season, quickly forgotten by the reds, or blues or whatever this fixture goes ahead without fans. It could prove a slight leveller for Cardiff not having that daft accent being screamed at them continuously for ninety minutes. To understand a Cardiff you have to understand that Barcelona, that pretty decent side in Spain have always aspired to be as big as the South Wales club. For years they have spoken of being the new Cardiff, their fan base requiring the whole of a country to follow them. You can quickly see where the issues are.
The people who dwell in this area are quite small, almost dwarf like which gives further insight in to their mindset. Being small people ( not land of the giants small ) that would be very odd, they have the desire to thrust their opinions on anyone who will listen. Which isn’t a lot of people. Before history started Cardiff was a village, about the same size as their home attendances for midweek games, a few hundred souls huddled together by a smelly river. They actually evolved from a river fish called a ‘Claaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder, this would later become the areas only claim to fame. This fish by all accounts lived in the river beds of Cardiff village fearing that locals would try and talk to them and do their heads in. Later, as sperm was invented and Cardiff people stopped eating it the fish became agile enough to leave their homes. They grew tin foil feet and developed a pastry based topping. Their insides were made of dried mud and lumps of brown jelly. The ‘Claaaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder without knee caps was born.
The ‘Claaaaaarkes’ pie, with an E. See the mud combination ?
The football club, which formed before Barcelona hence the connection Is often revered by people who aren’t too good at reading but enjoy fiction. There are a wealth of fictional tales of glory and success written by such wonderful names like Anus as an example. You will often find words in these books, well, sort of words which have been passed down the bottom feeder family tree. ‘Ninian Paaaaaaaark’ Road is a term often used by taxi drivers who recently passed their tests when driving was allowed in the area. About 2006. When they go to the bank they say ‘Baaaaaaaaarclays’ and their only well known figure is Frank Hennessy who invented eating and talking hence the dialect. Frank is dead now, but other people who sound like him often gather together and practice eating and talking in what sounds like a choking gurgle recently injected with hallucinating liquid or porridge.
The bottom feeder in illustration. This is Frank Hennessy’s father on a sunny day
The match Referee
John Brooks
Brookie as we know him, or Brooksy, Brooko, sometimes Johnny or Jonno, even JB, or the J Bro, J or Brookla to his mate Dave, is a referee. He lives in Leicester and hasn’t reffed a swans game this year, not season, year. He has reffed Cardiff twice and said after both games ‘What a pile of old garbage they are, I will make sure they lose the Welsh derby’ or words to that effect. He isn’t a referee with a lot of bad decisions made, unless you count in Cardiff who have never been happy with him in the past. And that doesn’t count. Because they are very small people which makes their brains even smaller than the average rat.
Brooks bonded to the game
Cardiff City players to look out for
Tom Watson
Born in 1903 Watson was a feature of the very recent FA cup game at Wembley. Now 117 years of age he has been used less and less in recent times but never say never. Cardiff fans know all about him, they talk about him a lot, and they love 1927 even more. It was so recent it makes sense to talk about it, nobody apart from Tom Watson is still alive from that day.
Here is Tom running about at Wembley, he could easily feature in Saturdays game as he is only 117 years of age. The low attendance that day, 91,000 was boosted by quite a few thousand football fans from Swansea, saving the blushes of Cardiff’s modern day support.
TEAM NEWS LATEST
What is the latest team news?
Cardiff are sweating on the fitness of summer signing Harry Wilson.
The Wales international was withdrawn during the Bluebirds' 2-1 win over Stoke City in midweek due to an arm injury.
And Neil Harris has admitted the problem could sideline the versatile attacker this weekend, although Wilson will be given until the day of the game to prove his availability.
Isaac Vassell (quad) and Jordi Osei-Tutu (hamstring) both remain sidelined while Lee Tomlin is not expected to be available until January at the earliest after undergoing groin surgery.
Swansea will once again be without Morgan Gibbs-White (foot) and George Byers (groin).
They also have concerns over Ryan Bennett and Marc Guehi ahead of the game in the Welsh capital.
Bennett has missed Swansea's last two games due to a hamstring issue while Guehi sat out the 0-0 draw with Bournemouth after taking a blow to the head in the Swans' 2-0 triumph over Luton Town.
Both defenders will be given every opportunity to prove their fitness ahead of the game at Cardiff City Stadium.
Managers Thoughts
Cardiff Manager Neil Harris:
“It’s a huge game. Bragging rights are at stake. It’s a massive game. I was watching some footage earlier of the game back in January. The stadium was packed, atmosphere was electric. Both clubs will miss the fans. It’s a great fixture in the football calendar, one of the biggest games of the season in the Championship.
“Fans will be missed but it doesn’t take away the importance of it.“
“We know the importance to the fan base.“
Harris was asked if he understood the importance of this game for the Cardiff fans,
“Course I do. It’s never lost on me.“
“In my playing career, they are the best games to play in.
“I know the importance to the fan base and that will certainly be mentioned in the changing room. It already has been.
“It’s not a joy for people in lockdown in the lead up to Christmas and they can’t watch their team. There’s been a hardship and we have an opportunity to put smiles on faces.“
Swansea manager Steve Cooper also spoke about the fans:
“It will be different in terms of the game and atmosphere,
“They were electric atmospheres last season, as anyone who was there will tell you, so we can’t shy away from it, it is different.
“That’s why you cannot compare with previous seasons or previous games.
“But is a game that means an awful lot to supporters, it’s one we really want to win and one we want to really commit to and attack.
“It is for the supporters. I want them to see a team working hard and giving their best because football is so important to so many people.
“It will be a perfect chance to give a bit back and we will be committing to that.”
TEAMS TO FOLLOW
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:42 - Dec 10 with 1560 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:40 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
The ball boy demonstrated how to fit in with the gypo fans by rolling on the floor and crying for his mother  I'd be embarrassed if it was one of ours  |
Gypo fans! Good one! You do know Cardiff has a larger gypsy population than Swansea? |  |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:49 - Dec 10 with 1553 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:42 - Dec 10 by Chief |
Gypo fans! Good one! You do know Cardiff has a larger gypsy population than Swansea? |
I'd like to see the stats on that one... always plenty of pikeys along the road in to Swansea. You need to watch that documentary on Vice... it paints your fans in the perfect light. Before your tiny little bit of success most of your fans were local pikeys but you managed to disguise them with the egg chaser following who have supported the Swans since 2011. |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:04 - Dec 10 with 1544 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:49 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
I'd like to see the stats on that one... always plenty of pikeys along the road in to Swansea. You need to watch that documentary on Vice... it paints your fans in the perfect light. Before your tiny little bit of success most of your fans were local pikeys but you managed to disguise them with the egg chaser following who have supported the Swans since 2011. |
Haha you are capable of researching these things yourself.
The road into Swansea? Like the ones in Cardiff who put their horses on the roundabout by the docks you mean?
Tiny bit of success?  you mean the levels of success your fans can only dream of!?
Haha rugby fans - i don't think you should throw stones from your glass house on that one!
How have your fa Cup (yes your hallowed fa cup) crowds been recently?  | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:10 - Dec 10 with 1536 views | Swanjaxs |
Time to put Tom Thumb back in his box, he's stinking out this Matchday thread, fwiw i think this has 0-0 written all over it, would start Fulton ahead of Grimes. |  |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:14 - Dec 10 with 1530 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:04 - Dec 10 by Chief |
Haha you are capable of researching these things yourself.
The road into Swansea? Like the ones in Cardiff who put their horses on the roundabout by the docks you mean?
Tiny bit of success? you mean the levels of success your fans can only dream of!?
Haha rugby fans - i don't think you should throw stones from your glass house on that one!
How have your fa Cup (yes your hallowed fa cup) crowds been recently? |
Ha, guessing you haven't got the info then...
You mean the back route to Cardiff which almost nobody takes? I believe there is one gypo camp not a whole cities worth
Sorry, it was a large bit of success! Especially when you consider you were formed in 2011!!
Not many rugby fans in our stadium pal ... hence why we don't sing rugby songs either.
I wouldn't bother bringing up attendances if I were you... another few years at this level and you could be barely touching 10k! That's saying you'll be at this level also because small clubs usually return to the depths from whence they came. | | | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 13:05 - Dec 10 with 1477 views | theloneranger |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:59 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
I think you made that link up 
Oh, Cardiff is certainly a bustling metropolis compared to that scrap heap town you call home...
English Civil War songs? What? 
2 seasons at a higher level? Are you sure? You're not thinking football started in 1992 are you?
Sam Hammam put us in the shit like most of our owners. Good ol' Vinny is the only one who ever put anything in. |
I see you ignored the official Welsh stats above, but just in case you innocently missed them ... Here they are again ...
Figures are only available for 2019 from Welsh local authorities ...
Number of gypsy and traveller caravans ...
Cardiff. 185
Swansea. 22
Number of gypsy and traveller pitches ...
Cardiff. 80
Swansea. 22
Statement from the Welsh Government, @statisticswales ...
"Cardiff has the highest number of gypsy and traveller caravans in Wales with 185"
TOP OF THE LEAGUE!! 😂😂
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 13:06 - Dec 10 with 1475 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 12:59 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
I think you made that link up
Oh, Cardiff is certainly a bustling metropolis compared to that scrap heap town you call home...
English Civil War songs? What?
2 seasons at a higher level? Are you sure? You're not thinking football started in 1992 are you?
Sam Hammam put us in the shit like most of our owners. Good ol' Vinny is the only one who ever put anything in. |
Ah if all else fails.... the old my city is better than your debate . Cardiff is nice, but overrated. Swansea has far more natural beauty.
Yea ignore the gypsy stats if you want. Your delusion knows no bounds.
Hmm your good at criticising other teams songs but don't know the history of your own. Oh dear. Must try better.
Is 1992 60 years ago? We can look at 1992 onwards if you wish though?
Haha right ok you signed the likes of Spencer Prior from the prem while in div 2 maybe 3? Based of the 8k attendance gate receipts at Ninian Park did you? | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:12 - Dec 10 with 1448 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 13:05 - Dec 10 by theloneranger |
I see you ignored the official Welsh stats above, but just in case you innocently missed them ... Here they are again ...
Figures are only available for 2019 from Welsh local authorities ...
Number of gypsy and traveller caravans ...
Cardiff. 185
Swansea. 22
Number of gypsy and traveller pitches ...
Cardiff. 80
Swansea. 22
Statement from the Welsh Government, @statisticswales ...
"Cardiff has the highest number of gypsy and traveller caravans in Wales with 185"
TOP OF THE LEAGUE!! 😂😂
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I was talking about Gypo's in general pal? I mean unemployed pikeys don't seem to be on that link? Shall we get all the stats first before spouting off hahaha. | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:22 - Dec 10 with 1438 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:12 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
I was talking about Gypo's in general pal? I mean unemployed pikeys don't seem to be on that link? Shall we get all the stats first before spouting off hahaha. |
I don’t really want to get involved in this little spat but the reference to the number of actual gypsies residing in either city is nothing to do with why Cardiff fans dubbed Jacks gypsies years ago.
It was their appearance during the casual years, which they were famously clueless and looked like “gypsies”. Nothing wrong with that look of course, whatever floats yer boat.
And if we needed to clarify a bit more, we also have more initials, Pakistanis, Jamaicans, Afro Caribbean’s, poles, Spanish, Italians and Greeks to name a few....it’s a bigger city. |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:25 - Dec 10 with 1439 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:22 - Dec 10 by bennytheblue |
I don’t really want to get involved in this little spat but the reference to the number of actual gypsies residing in either city is nothing to do with why Cardiff fans dubbed Jacks gypsies years ago.
It was their appearance during the casual years, which they were famously clueless and looked like “gypsies”. Nothing wrong with that look of course, whatever floats yer boat.
And if we needed to clarify a bit more, we also have more initials, Pakistanis, Jamaicans, Afro Caribbean’s, poles, Spanish, Italians and Greeks to name a few....it’s a bigger city. |
Ok thanks for confirming the name has no factual basis then.
Bigger city indeed, but those gypsy figures are still disproportionately huge! | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 14:51 - Dec 10 with 1424 views | Chief |
Hmm asking me if I'm dull but not knowing your own songs but going on another teams forum to slag off theirs
Please do avail of us of how much many seasons Cardiff have spent in the top flight since 1960 (60 years ago just to clarify).....
700k odd in div 2/3 for a team who'd recently been in financial trouble? Him along with a raft of others.
Yes you were getting less than 8k when you signed those players.
So Hamman did invest then?
Haha and Cardiff you're saying didn't hsve poor crowds? Several years in the 90s below 4k!
Try and read this slowly and carefully this time. You're obviously struggling to keep.  | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 16:40 - Dec 10 with 1349 views | vetchonian |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 16:05 - Dec 10 by Chief |
You've misquoted me there - go back and actually see what i wrote, but well done you've got the song correct. Its a song we sing too but if we go round scrutinising the origins of songs it may uncover some unfortunate truths - especially when your in a habit of looking at other teams' songs.
Oh dear you obviously don't know your own clubs history. Go and check and let us know how many seasons you've spent in the division above the one you're currently in. I brought that up due to some reference about clubs finding their level after a while. Kind of shows a similar fate for yourselves considering your phobia of the top division . Not my narrative but that's ample length I'd say to demonstrate this trend wouldn't you say?
Ah so you had such low attendances for many many years because you were rubbish. Are you telling me the behemoth that is Cardiff city has had lower dips in attendances during spells of poor performances on the pitch like every other team in the country!? Also some significant drop offs after recent relegations too 
Surely not!?
Ah the Swans propensity for the lower leagues. We've been through spells. Just like your lot. Have a look- we've actually spent similar amounts of time in the lower leagues as you.
Plenty of research there for you to do. Don't let the delusion cloud it |
DOnt keep feeding the troll Chief
YOu are taxing hos brain too much its so funny had they not strung together the last 4 wins both he and the other idiot would not have come on here spouting their usual delusional rubbish before Saturday.
They still cling to that famous day in the last millenium when a Cardiff related goal keeper playing for Arsenal threw the ball into the net in an otherwise goaless game to let them have triangular corner flags....nobody still alive was there or rememebrs it whilst we have spent more years at the top table and enjoyed European runs with "legendary" managers in charge of us in living memory of our fans. Let them cling to those triangular flags won by "default" it was only a couple of weeks ago they were calling for their manager to be sacked now they are certs for promotion!! | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 19:30 - Dec 10 with 1255 views | NotLoyal |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 16:40 - Dec 10 by vetchonian |
DOnt keep feeding the troll Chief
YOu are taxing hos brain too much its so funny had they not strung together the last 4 wins both he and the other idiot would not have come on here spouting their usual delusional rubbish before Saturday.
They still cling to that famous day in the last millenium when a Cardiff related goal keeper playing for Arsenal threw the ball into the net in an otherwise goaless game to let them have triangular corner flags....nobody still alive was there or rememebrs it whilst we have spent more years at the top table and enjoyed European runs with "legendary" managers in charge of us in living memory of our fans. Let them cling to those triangular flags won by "default" it was only a couple of weeks ago they were calling for their manager to be sacked now they are certs for promotion!! |
Ah, go on and feed him, he might choke on his claaaaaaaaaaaaaaarkes pie. | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 22:08 - Dec 10 with 1190 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 19:30 - Dec 10 by NotLoyal |
Ah, go on and feed him, he might choke on his claaaaaaaaaaaaaaarkes pie. |
It’s spelt poies. |  |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 22:37 - Dec 10 with 1177 views | raynor94 |
Fair play Chief and Tom, ruined a tidy matchday thread. |  |
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I'd consider winning the championship a bigger achievement in all honesty. 
