| Junior Hoillet 20:49 - Apr 28 with 3752 views | PhilmyRs |
Can't remember a player in the last 30 years that struggles from the bench as much as him. I've been disappointed with him but seen glimpses of potential so know he can play. However, I can't remember him ever coming off the bench and having a positive impact on a game. I'm sure he has and I just can't think of it, but I'm getting to the stage where he either starts or we leave him out totally. Some players just can't pick up the pace of games, whereas others love being an impact player. Junior is most certainly not an impact player. |  | | |  |
| Junior Hoillet on 20:52 - Apr 28 with 3722 views | Petros |
Terrible player, perhaps even worse than SWP. Townshend showed them up big time. Out! | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:00 - Apr 28 with 3665 views | Antti_Heinola |
I think he's been poor. But, before we just start kicking everyone out, I think there are some extenuating circumstances and I think he's worth persevering with (plus, no one will take him at the moment).
He came in as part of Hughes' grand attacking plan. He was actually very good v Swansea. We got beat 5-0, and Hughes panicked and changed everything. Hoilett never got a run after that, then he got injured, then he came back into a side totally bereft of confidence.
Since then, he's been in and out the team. He was very decent v Southampton, but then got inconsistent, was in and out the side, and, for me, has totally lost confidence in himself. I have no idea whether this is attitude or what, but from what I've seen of him, he seems a fairly strong personality.
On top of that, he's 22. 22. Now, that is old enough to take responsibility and to be a very good pro footballer, but it's also young enough to be quite damaged by managers not having faith, or not being able to help when confidence is low. Not making excuses for him, but I think he is a good player. He's scored some cracking goals in the Prem for Blackburn and I've seen him rip us apart before now.
Managing is about more than buying and selling. We can't just boot everyone out. Some actual coaching is going to be needed, too. |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 21:00 - Apr 28 with 3660 views | HollowayRanger |
must be given a VERY STRICT pre season tranning get off that bulk and add some pace and effort
major disapointment has never got going this season |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 21:07 - Apr 28 with 3630 views | Watford_Ranger |
Wright-Phillips without the effort. | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:15 - Apr 28 with 3596 views | TacticalR |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:00 - Apr 28 by HollowayRanger |
must be given a VERY STRICT pre season tranning get off that bulk and add some pace and effort
major disapointment has never got going this season |
What's very strict tranning? Is that a Ukrainian thing? |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 21:35 - Apr 28 with 3523 views | WestonsuperR |
I was more excited by signing Junior than any other player, how wrong was I, he has had a truly appalling season. The Hoilett I saw at Blackburn last season would rip up The Championship lets he returns to somewhere near that standard as can't see any team taking him off out hands. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:40 - Apr 28 with 3496 views | ted_hendrix |
Talking of failures here's another, one-having said that there is a very good player in there somewhere and for that reason I believe we must keep him.
It's now up to our training staff etc to get him going again. |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 21:40 - Apr 28 with 3493 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:00 - Apr 28 by HollowayRanger |
must be given a VERY STRICT pre season tranning get off that bulk and add some pace and effort
major disapointment has never got going this season |
I don't think pre-season tanning is going to help him much.
I think that is the one area he has pasted muster on. |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 22:17 - Apr 28 with 3424 views | sexton |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:07 - Apr 28 by Watford_Ranger |
Wright-Phillips without the effort. |
and the guile |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 22:23 - Apr 28 with 3410 views | Kiwi76 |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:40 - Apr 28 by ted_hendrix |
Talking of failures here's another, one-having said that there is a very good player in there somewhere and for that reason I believe we must keep him.
It's now up to our training staff etc to get him going again. |
Hoping you're right Ted - thought he was going to be the best signing of the summer.
Not sure where his best position is - second forward behind/beside main striker or wide?
Clearly showed some talent with struggling Blackburn side and hope has some desire to show us more next season |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 23:19 - Apr 28 with 3327 views | Northernr |
He's gone altogether hasn't he? Such a shame, was really excited about signing him. Hopefully a very relaxing, calming summer to refresh him, followed by a brutal pre-season to get him properly fit and he can come back. He'll struggle to get a club playing as he is at the moment, may have to rely on his reputation in Germany. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 07:33 - Apr 29 with 3216 views | hoopdog |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:15 - Apr 28 by TacticalR |
What's very strict tranning? Is that a Ukrainian thing? |
I think it's A problem his sister has got due to missing clothes | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 10:15 - Apr 29 with 3104 views | TW_R |
| Junior Hoillet on 23:19 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
He's gone altogether hasn't he? Such a shame, was really excited about signing him. Hopefully a very relaxing, calming summer to refresh him, followed by a brutal pre-season to get him properly fit and he can come back. He'll struggle to get a club playing as he is at the moment, may have to rely on his reputation in Germany. |
I was sitting in the Reading end yesterday and they were all laughing when he stripped off to come on. They said it looked like he was being dragged to the touchline by Harry and he really didn't want to play. Quite interesting body language. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 12:29 - Apr 29 with 3025 views | smegma |
Getting relegated 2 years running is some feat | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 12:39 - Apr 29 with 2999 views | JonDoeman |
| Junior Hoillet on 12:29 - Apr 29 by smegma |
Getting relegated 2 years running is some feat |
Teams in the Prem will be put off signing him cos of his 'Jonah' qualities!(amongst other reasons!  ) |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 12:47 - Apr 29 with 2992 views | QPunkR |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:40 - Apr 28 by ted_hendrix |
Talking of failures here's another, one-having said that there is a very good player in there somewhere and for that reason I believe we must keep him.
It's now up to our training staff etc to get him going again. |
Got the wrong manager then. Arry's a wheeler-dealer, doesn't so much go in for that whole tactics/training kinda thing |  |
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| Junior Hoillet on 12:52 - Apr 29 with 2974 views | imustbemad |
He looks overweight to me and his confidence is shot. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 12:52 - Apr 29 with 2973 views | Hunterhoop |
| Junior Hoillet on 23:19 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
He's gone altogether hasn't he? Such a shame, was really excited about signing him. Hopefully a very relaxing, calming summer to refresh him, followed by a brutal pre-season to get him properly fit and he can come back. He'll struggle to get a club playing as he is at the moment, may have to rely on his reputation in Germany. |
I'm sure there is a good player in there.
He looked excellent for Blackburn last season. At the start of this one he was very good in the cup vs Reading, at home to Everton and away at Spurs. In all games he played up top though.
These last few weeks he's looked woeful though.
Got to a be a fitness, confidence and effort thing.
Can't see interest for him. And being 22, build his confidence, get him fit (he is clearly carrying sme timber) and give him a proper pre-season and let's see. He's too young to cast adrift. He COULD tear up the Championship if he finds the form he showed 2010/11-2011/12.
That's a damn sign cheaper an approach than letting him go for buttons or just loaning him out till his contract expires. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 12:55 - Apr 29 with 2955 views | HantsR |
| Junior Hoillet on 21:40 - Apr 28 by ShotKneesHoop |
I don't think pre-season tanning is going to help him much.
I think that is the one area he has pasted muster on. |
Hmmm a tasty player. I've just pasted some mustard on a bacon sarnie - so I've passed muster on chef skills today. |  | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 13:00 - Apr 29 with 2939 views | HantsR |
| Junior Hoillet on 23:19 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
He's gone altogether hasn't he? Such a shame, was really excited about signing him. Hopefully a very relaxing, calming summer to refresh him, followed by a brutal pre-season to get him properly fit and he can come back. He'll struggle to get a club playing as he is at the moment, may have to rely on his reputation in Germany. |
One of his most disappointing shortcomings has been first touch - surely a pre-requisite for a winger? Yesterday was no exception - this to me suggests his confidence is shattered. Looking back to his first game, he took on players and had some quite reasonable efforts on goal - all down hill after that. | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 16:58 - Apr 29 with 2849 views | fakekerby |
Think we do have to be careful not to base everyone's ability in how they've performed as part of this dreadful collective.
If you took any of our player's individual performances at face value this season then none of them would be good enough, however, we know full well some have the ability to succeed at this level as part of a better unit.
Hoilett could be one. A team devoid of confidence/team spirit soon has an effect on a young lad. | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 17:01 - Apr 29 with 2844 views | Northernr |
| Junior Hoillet on 16:58 - Apr 29 by fakekerby |
Think we do have to be careful not to base everyone's ability in how they've performed as part of this dreadful collective.
If you took any of our player's individual performances at face value this season then none of them would be good enough, however, we know full well some have the ability to succeed at this level as part of a better unit.
Hoilett could be one. A team devoid of confidence/team spirit soon has an effect on a young lad. |
Agree with this. I actually think there's a few killings for teams like Everton, West Ham and Southampton to make this summer by picking up the likes of Hoilett, Granero and Onuoha cheaply and putting them into a more stable, more confident, better coached set up and rebuilding them. | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 17:59 - Apr 29 with 2802 views | PhilmyRs |
| Junior Hoillet on 16:58 - Apr 29 by fakekerby |
Think we do have to be careful not to base everyone's ability in how they've performed as part of this dreadful collective.
If you took any of our player's individual performances at face value this season then none of them would be good enough, however, we know full well some have the ability to succeed at this level as part of a better unit.
Hoilett could be one. A team devoid of confidence/team spirit soon has an effect on a young lad. |
I agree with a lot of that too. When I started the thread I was more coming at it from how shocked I’ve been at his lack of impact and ability to get up to the speed of games when he’s come off the bench, rather than his ability per se. Spurs away, Southampton away, Reading in the cup and even Sunderland at home showed the guy can play, other times he’s started he’s looked useful as well. But from the bench he's a different player, it's like a Paladini unknown has just entered the fray. Contrast that with the impact Adel can have from the bench, where he makes things happen, looks inventive, will make a difference etc.
I agree with the view that a lot of players (Hoillet, Onouha, Granero, Cesar, Samba) in a different environment will look like the players we thought they were when they first arrived. Typical QPR luck. | | | |
| Junior Hoillet on 18:00 - Apr 29 with 2796 views | Charlie1 |
I'd keep him. Think he could do well next season.
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