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Barristers Strike 09:39 - Jun 27 with 9211 viewsonehunglow

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Barristers Strike on 10:14 - Jun 29 with 1191 viewsonehunglow

We could revert to the days of Police Chief Inspectors prosecuting from a file of evidence the size of a postage stamp.
CPS has been disastrous for all and a government sap to appease .

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Barristers Strike on 11:21 - Jun 29 with 1160 viewsSirjohnalot

Barristers Strike on 10:14 - Jun 29 by onehunglow

We could revert to the days of Police Chief Inspectors prosecuting from a file of evidence the size of a postage stamp.
CPS has been disastrous for all and a government sap to appease .


Absolutely not. Police are there to act as independent evidence gatherers. You can’t have the police deciding what to charge in serious cases. Lawyers decide on the law not police
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:34 - Jun 29 with 1129 viewscontroversial_jack

Barristers Strike on 11:21 - Jun 29 by Sirjohnalot

Absolutely not. Police are there to act as independent evidence gatherers. You can’t have the police deciding what to charge in serious cases. Lawyers decide on the law not police


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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:34 - Jun 29 with 1129 viewscontroversial_jack

Barristers Strike on 11:21 - Jun 29 by Sirjohnalot

Absolutely not. Police are there to act as independent evidence gatherers. You can’t have the police deciding what to charge in serious cases. Lawyers decide on the law not police


Police are not there as independent , they are there totally to prosecute and nothing else.
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:40 - Jun 29 with 1119 viewsSirjohnalot

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:34 - Jun 29 by controversial_jack

Police are not there as independent , they are there totally to prosecute and nothing else.
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Their official role is to investigate all evidence even that which takes them away from charge. In reality that doesn’t happen. Police courts were a disaster which is why they were scrapped
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:46 - Jun 29 with 1114 viewscontroversial_jack

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:40 - Jun 29 by Sirjohnalot

Their official role is to investigate all evidence even that which takes them away from charge. In reality that doesn’t happen. Police courts were a disaster which is why they were scrapped


Nope. If a police officer arrests you, they believe you are guilty.If they thought otherwise they wouldn't arrest you
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 21:00 - Jun 29 with 1107 viewsSirjohnalot

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:46 - Jun 29 by controversial_jack

Nope. If a police officer arrests you, they believe you are guilty.If they thought otherwise they wouldn't arrest you


Which is exactly the problem with the old police courts
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 21:03 - Jun 29 with 1102 viewscontroversial_jack

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 21:00 - Jun 29 by Sirjohnalot

Which is exactly the problem with the old police courts


Magistrate courts are police courts
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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 10:07 - Jun 30 with 1046 viewsKeithHaynes

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 21:03 - Jun 29 by controversial_jack

Magistrate courts are police courts


Incorrect but I’m certain you just make it up as you go along 😂

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Barristers Strike (n/t) on 10:09 - Jun 30 with 1040 viewsKeithHaynes

Barristers Strike (n/t) on 20:46 - Jun 29 by controversial_jack

Nope. If a police officer arrests you, they believe you are guilty.If they thought otherwise they wouldn't arrest you


Now John, CJ is one of our finest posters and anything else you need to know on the law and procedures just ask him 👍

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Barristers Strike on 21:23 - Jul 29 with 892 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 10:14 - Jun 29 by onehunglow

We could revert to the days of Police Chief Inspectors prosecuting from a file of evidence the size of a postage stamp.
CPS has been disastrous for all and a government sap to appease .


quis custodiet ipsos custodes

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Barristers Strike on 09:36 - Jul 30 with 827 viewsonehunglow

Barristers Strike on 21:23 - Jul 29 by waynekerr55

quis custodiet ipsos custodes


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Ive just been reading as to how much the Vardy/Rooney barristers might have been charging and how bullying ,belittling and humiliating they were. Rum chaps/chapesess aren't they.

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Barristers Strike on 10:58 - Jul 30 with 815 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 09:36 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

Ars Longa Vita Brevis

Ive just been reading as to how much the Vardy/Rooney barristers might have been charging and how bullying ,belittling and humiliating they were. Rum chaps/chapesess aren't they.


Apples with Apples. Criminal law Barristers are paid a pittance. If they were getting paid the same rates we'd agree.
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Barristers Strike on 12:23 - Jul 30 with 795 viewsonehunglow

Barristers Strike on 10:58 - Jul 30 by waynekerr55

Apples with Apples. Criminal law Barristers are paid a pittance. If they were getting paid the same rates we'd agree.
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No. Care home staff are paid such.

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Barristers Strike on 12:37 - Jul 30 with 780 viewsFlashberryjack

Barristers Strike on 10:58 - Jul 30 by waynekerr55

Apples with Apples. Criminal law Barristers are paid a pittance. If they were getting paid the same rates we'd agree.
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Really ?

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Barristers Strike on 12:44 - Jul 30 with 775 viewsonehunglow

Barristers Strike on 12:37 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack

Really ?


I’m sorry but I’m not having this.
I too have read The Secret Barrister but if one has been on the receiving end in a witness box or seen victims taken apart so badly they forget their own names I remain cynical.

No Barrister is “poor” . There.

Barristers on upwards of 500 quid per hour could maybe spread the pot.

Pittance covers many jobs especially in private firms and the legal profession rewards well evidenced by the piles many barristers live in.

Yes, it takes time to become one but apprentices in all trades got pittances before they fully qualified

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Barristers Strike on 12:54 - Jul 30 with 763 viewsFlashberryjack

Barristers Strike on 12:44 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

I’m sorry but I’m not having this.
I too have read The Secret Barrister but if one has been on the receiving end in a witness box or seen victims taken apart so badly they forget their own names I remain cynical.

No Barrister is “poor” . There.

Barristers on upwards of 500 quid per hour could maybe spread the pot.

Pittance covers many jobs especially in private firms and the legal profession rewards well evidenced by the piles many barristers live in.

Yes, it takes time to become one but apprentices in all trades got pittances before they fully qualified


I know a couple of barristers, poor they are not.

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Barristers Strike on 13:07 - Jul 30 with 756 viewsonehunglow

Barristers Strike on 12:54 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack

I know a couple of barristers, poor they are not.


Two from my section were suspended for a couple of years and one studied for the Bar,the other a solicitor.
Both qualified and both specialise …IIN CRIMINAL LAW. A former police officer as a Defence Barrister is a serious dude to be afraid of and many are . Courts are places of fear apart from many defendants who simply enjoy a good show,want to see their brief humiliate police and witnesses and get the jury confused ,so confused they can’t agree and he walks free.

It’s an everyday story of simple folk

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Barristers Strike on 14:11 - Jul 30 with 734 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 12:44 - Jul 30 by onehunglow

I’m sorry but I’m not having this.
I too have read The Secret Barrister but if one has been on the receiving end in a witness box or seen victims taken apart so badly they forget their own names I remain cynical.

No Barrister is “poor” . There.

Barristers on upwards of 500 quid per hour could maybe spread the pot.

Pittance covers many jobs especially in private firms and the legal profession rewards well evidenced by the piles many barristers live in.

Yes, it takes time to become one but apprentices in all trades got pittances before they fully qualified


I can fully understand your ire given what you saw back in the day. Things have changed and whilst pre tuition fees (and dare I say it the first iteration of fees) people were able to get by on a low salary. Times have changed and I think that's worth bearing in mind.

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Barristers Strike on 14:13 - Jul 30 with 732 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 12:54 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack

I know a couple of barristers, poor they are not.


If you don't mind me asking what area of law do they practise?

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Barristers Strike on 14:36 - Jul 30 with 714 viewsFlashberryjack

Barristers Strike on 14:13 - Jul 30 by waynekerr55

If you don't mind me asking what area of law do they practise?


Divorce and criminal I think, although I've never real asked them specifics.

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Barristers Strike on 16:01 - Jul 30 with 689 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 14:36 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack

Divorce and criminal I think, although I've never real asked them specifics.


I'm not doubting some criminal Barristers earn big dough, but this sweeping generalisation that they use Pol Roger to clean their toilets is a bit misleading

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Barristers Strike on 21:11 - Jul 31 with 593 viewsFlashberryjack

Barristers Strike on 16:01 - Jul 30 by waynekerr55

I'm not doubting some criminal Barristers earn big dough, but this sweeping generalisation that they use Pol Roger to clean their toilets is a bit misleading


Do you know any poor barristers ?

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Barristers Strike on 21:38 - Jul 31 with 572 viewsSirjohnalot

Barristers Strike on 21:11 - Jul 31 by Flashberryjack

Do you know any poor barristers ?


Quite a few at the junior end are on less than an equivalent minimum wage, with no pension, holiday etc. so yes I do.

Coupled with massive debts from Uni
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Barristers Strike on 21:52 - Jul 31 with 565 viewswaynekerr55

Barristers Strike on 21:11 - Jul 31 by Flashberryjack

Do you know any poor barristers ?


Nope - but as Jonalot says times have changed

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