| All down to the lawyers now...... 10:38 - May 13 with 5126 views | QPR1882 |
This is set to go on for months and months........
Queens Park Rangers have challenged the legality of the Football League's financial fair play (FFP) rules. With the Football League they have issued a joint statement to confirm that legal proceedings are under way.
An arbitration panel has been set up, thought to be composed of three QCs. Neither party will reveal when the panel will deliver its findings. Should the panel find in favour of the Football League, QPR are expected to be charged with breaking the spending rules and will be exposed to fines close to £60m.
The club would then engage in a second battle and seek to challenge the accounting principles of the FFP regulations. The club is confident that it wlll be able to reach a settlement on a lower sum. The Football League has played down suggestions that it could send QPR to the National League (formerly the Football Conference).
Despite receiving £24m in parachute payments next season, the club's income is likely to fall by £50m after relegation. |  | | |  |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 10:42 - May 13 with 3962 views | TheBlob |
Caught between two stools - either you cough up a fine or you do a load of wonga in legal costs.These briefs don't come cheap.(ooer) |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 11:38 - May 13 with 3859 views | Snipper |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 10:42 - May 13 by TheBlob |
Caught between two stools - either you cough up a fine or you do a load of wonga in legal costs.These briefs don't come cheap.(ooer) |
I hope the club has been sensible and hired 'Lawyers 4 U' on a no win no fee basis. |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 11:43 - May 13 with 3839 views | Juzzie |
I think we should have a single FFP thread stickyed to the top. |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:17 - May 13 with 3772 views | Antti_Heinola |
If it's going to take months and months we'll be in the Conference next year. Suspect they'll be looking for a fast resolution. |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:22 - May 13 with 3758 views | TheBlob |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:17 - May 13 by Antti_Heinola |
If it's going to take months and months we'll be in the Conference next year. Suspect they'll be looking for a fast resolution. |
Looks like the whole goddam pyramid structure can't do a thing until the matter's resolved.Less haste more speed as they say. | |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:22 - May 13 with 3751 views | francisbowles |
If it's going to take months and months, I would have thought that effectively the Football League's hands are tied and they can't take any action until it moves to a conclusion. |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:26 - May 13 with 3724 views | QPR1882 |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:22 - May 13 by francisbowles |
If it's going to take months and months, I would have thought that effectively the Football League's hands are tied and they can't take any action until it moves to a conclusion. |
Depends just how much red tape our lawyers have in their briefcase against what figure we are prepared to settle at on the length of any trial. | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:28 - May 13 with 3712 views | Jeff |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:22 - May 13 by francisbowles |
If it's going to take months and months, I would have thought that effectively the Football League's hands are tied and they can't take any action until it moves to a conclusion. |
Exactamundo. We're starting in the Championship in August, and we'll filibuster it until the opening day of the season if we have to... |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:37 - May 13 with 3667 views | stevec |
I would have thought the likes of Millwall, Notts County and Cheltenham will be on the Leagues case to get this concluded before the fixtures come out as surely, if we refuse to pay, they're entitled to step back up a Division.
Certainly puts us on the back foot. |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:43 - May 13 with 3649 views | francisbowles |
The fixtures come out on the 18th June. Can't see it being resolved by then unless there is a big reduction in the Football League's demands. | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 14:31 - May 13 with 3533 views | fakekerby |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:22 - May 13 by francisbowles |
If it's going to take months and months, I would have thought that effectively the Football League's hands are tied and they can't take any action until it moves to a conclusion. |
Could they place us under a transfer embargo if we drag it on and on?
With 12(ish) set to be released/return to parent clubs we'll have nobody left! | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:02 - May 13 with 3477 views | QPR_John |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 14:31 - May 13 by fakekerby |
Could they place us under a transfer embargo if we drag it on and on?
With 12(ish) set to be released/return to parent clubs we'll have nobody left! |
On what grounds, that we are contesting the FL decision. I don't think even the FL would be foolish enough to go down that route. [Post edited 13 May 2015 15:03]
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:12 - May 13 with 3438 views | johncharles |
Lets wait and see what the arbitraction panel has to say. Three QCs and everyone keeping stum. The Football League don't come across as overconfident. It might be a way out for them. |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:14 - May 13 with 3443 views | bosh67 |
The law is a lottery.
Lawyers will say there is definitely a case to fight, lose it and then say there was always a risk. Sadly that is the general rule, however good they supposedly are.
A lot rides on this case. If the Football League loses the case then there is a big chance that the whole FFP enforcement of regulations will crumble for them. So they won't want to lose face.
However, I think we do have a legitimate case here but we won't be allowed to 'win it'. I think it will end in a compromised fine of less than half, perhaps £25m and that will be it. On the other hand if we are allowed to win it, then The Football League could be on the end of a huge counter claim for raising a false case against us. |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:47 - May 13 with 3372 views | JAPRANGERS |
Always drama at QPR. What do Dull City call us, DQPR?? Interesting with the fixtures out in just over a month what's going to happen. If The league lose the case as well they might, how are the other clubs going to take it?? |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 16:07 - May 13 with 3342 views | whittocksRs |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:47 - May 13 by JAPRANGERS |
Always drama at QPR. What do Dull City call us, DQPR?? Interesting with the fixtures out in just over a month what's going to happen. If The league lose the case as well they might, how are the other clubs going to take it?? |
DQPR is the most fcking retarded bit of 'banter' I've ever heard of. | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 16:16 - May 13 with 3324 views | GetMeRangers |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 12:17 - May 13 by Antti_Heinola |
If it's going to take months and months we'll be in the Conference next year. Suspect they'll be looking for a fast resolution. |
I do not see how they can send us to the conference before the issue is resolved, let alone risk it. It they lost, the league would be subject to a law suit they simply could not afford
They would have been far more sensible to deduct points than talk money with owners who can afford a legal fight , and possibly a transfer embargo |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 16:22 - May 13 with 3308 views | kingsburyR |
It'll probably be decided 20 mins before the final game of the season! |  |
| Dont know why we bother. .... but we do! |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 16:53 - May 13 with 3235 views | johncharles |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:47 - May 13 by JAPRANGERS |
Always drama at QPR. What do Dull City call us, DQPR?? Interesting with the fixtures out in just over a month what's going to happen. If The league lose the case as well they might, how are the other clubs going to take it?? |
Which is why it might come as a relief to the FL if the arbitration lot say something on the lines of it's not appropriate to charge QPR at the moment because the money was spent on contracts made before the FFP came into force etc. However the rules have now been clarified and anyone exceeding the limits in the future will be dealt with most severely.
To take us to court and lose would be a catastrophe for the FL and the FFP rules. I bet they're praying for a sidestep shuffle. | |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 17:56 - May 13 with 3174 views | QPR_John |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:14 - May 13 by bosh67 |
The law is a lottery.
Lawyers will say there is definitely a case to fight, lose it and then say there was always a risk. Sadly that is the general rule, however good they supposedly are.
A lot rides on this case. If the Football League loses the case then there is a big chance that the whole FFP enforcement of regulations will crumble for them. So they won't want to lose face.
However, I think we do have a legitimate case here but we won't be allowed to 'win it'. I think it will end in a compromised fine of less than half, perhaps £25m and that will be it. On the other hand if we are allowed to win it, then The Football League could be on the end of a huge counter claim for raising a false case against us. |
"A lot rides on this case. If the Football League loses the case then there is a big chance that the whole FFP enforcement of regulations will crumble for them. So they won't want to lose face. "
I think this is the bottom line and the FL will not want to push us into a corner so will give us a get out that will suite both parties.
However if FFP is not challenged at some point I can see a Premier League 1 & 2 being set up soon with no relegation to the FL from PL2. | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 18:12 - May 13 with 3131 views | BklynRanger |
We're all going to be physically sick of this by the time the season starts, that's all I know about it.
Agree with you, Bosh - probably some kind of expensive, face saving compromise on the cards. |  | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 18:24 - May 13 with 3094 views | RangersDave |
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but.......
Isn't FFP against European rules regarding free trade etc etc?
Anyone care to clarify?
Cheers
Dave |  |
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 20:08 - May 13 with 2953 views | VancouverHoop |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 15:14 - May 13 by bosh67 |
The law is a lottery.
Lawyers will say there is definitely a case to fight, lose it and then say there was always a risk. Sadly that is the general rule, however good they supposedly are.
A lot rides on this case. If the Football League loses the case then there is a big chance that the whole FFP enforcement of regulations will crumble for them. So they won't want to lose face.
However, I think we do have a legitimate case here but we won't be allowed to 'win it'. I think it will end in a compromised fine of less than half, perhaps £25m and that will be it. On the other hand if we are allowed to win it, then The Football League could be on the end of a huge counter claim for raising a false case against us. |
This sounds about right. In the FL's favour is that they're effectively in a monopoly situation and can make up their own rules, to challenge this through the EU would take years, win or lose. In QPR's favour is that we have very wealthy owners who can afford to fight this case for a long time if need be.
Football is a time sensitive game in every sense. A swift resolution is in everyone's best interest. | | | |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 20:31 - May 13 with 2917 views | QPR_John |
| All down to the lawyers now...... on 20:08 - May 13 by VancouverHoop |
This sounds about right. In the FL's favour is that they're effectively in a monopoly situation and can make up their own rules, to challenge this through the EU would take years, win or lose. In QPR's favour is that we have very wealthy owners who can afford to fight this case for a long time if need be.
Football is a time sensitive game in every sense. A swift resolution is in everyone's best interest. |
They really cannot make up their own rules, if that were the case there would be little point in fighting them [Post edited 13 May 2015 20:33]
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| All down to the lawyers now...... on 21:01 - May 13 with 2845 views | stowmarketrange |
They can always get round it with a points deduction,and that could be applied at any time. |  | | |
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