| Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 135282 views | Hooparoo |
An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first. |  |
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| Trump on 19:27 - Jan 7 with 2135 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
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A conspiracy to remove Trump, while highly unlikely it's not beyond imagination, most of the world wanted to be rid of him.
BUT if we look back say November 2019 many thought he would win again, then the pandemic hit and from then on Trump lost the election pretty much on his own everything he said and done was self-destructive.
No need for a conspiracy |  |
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| Trump on 19:38 - Jan 7 with 2121 views | derbyhoop |
How much was Trump's behaviour responsible for the Democrats winning both Senate seats in Georgia.?
Had US voters had enough of him and his shenanigans |  |
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| Trump on 19:43 - Jan 7 with 2099 views | traininvain |
| Trump on 19:38 - Jan 7 by derbyhoop |
How much was Trump's behaviour responsible for the Democrats winning both Senate seats in Georgia.?
Had US voters had enough of him and his shenanigans |
And how many didn’t bother voting after hearing conspiracy theories about voter fraud for the past two months. If you tell voters that elections are unfair (without substantiated evidence) then don’t be surprised when people don’t turn up to vote. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 19:55]
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| Trump on 19:52 - Jan 7 with 2084 views | distortR |
| Trump on 19:38 - Jan 7 by derbyhoop |
How much was Trump's behaviour responsible for the Democrats winning both Senate seats in Georgia.?
Had US voters had enough of him and his shenanigans |
Mike Siegel, democratic nominee for Texas, has written a piece for ScheerPost stating that the democrats need to fight both white supremacism and poverty, and they did the latter in Georgia and took that state by offering $2000 /person covid payments as opposed to the $600 offered by the republicans.
so voters, understandably, took a short term fix but nothing in bidens or the democrats recent history suggests to me they'll come up with anything more lasting, just as that chancer trump didn't.
There are some great people in the democratic party, but at it's head they serve their corporate sponsors. |  | | |
| Trump on 20:03 - Jan 7 with 2052 views | bosh67 |
For me it was really simple.
Trump knew he was going to lose the election. He claimed the vote would be rigged and fraudulent well before the elections even started. So did he have some kind of crystal ball? No, he knew his popularity had waned so he made the claim before any vote was cast.
It’s kind of like us being on a bad run and Warbuton saying, well we’ll play Luton but I’m telling you now it won’t be a fair game and if we lose it then it will be because Luton do so by unfair means and we won’t recognise that result and try and reverse it.
It’s called deflectacism. Predict the future so that if you win it’s fair and if you lose it’s not and it’s fraudulent. Never take blame, deflect it.
Although maybe we should try this in a week and a bit against Luton if we get tonked? |  |
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| Trump on 20:23 - Jan 7 with 2016 views | charmr |
How to fix the USA
Don’t take everything so literally
Get Irony, not the Allanis kind.
Don’t be so gullible.
Take yourself less seriously.
God isn’t always on your side. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 20:28]
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| Trump on 20:44 - Jan 7 with 1961 views | Konk |
It's not complicated. It's fu cking nonsense, hence he's 60-1 down in post-election court cases - often with Trump-appointed judges tossing the cases out, and ZERO evidence submitted. He's had Republican Election officials in multiple states, who actually voted for him, providing ample evidence that the claims are fu cking bonkers, and hence even cyncial fu ckers like McConnell, Graham, Paul and Cotton have accepted that Biden won fair and square. He wasn't cheated - watch the Election officials in Georgia going through point-by-point, debunking the bullsh it.
Have you listened to Trump's call with the election officials for Georgia? He is a babbling lunatic - and I do mean, lunatic. Have you watched Guiliani and Powell and their insane, conspiracy sh it? It is off the wall mental. Only someone completely cut off from reality, or wilfully ignorant could still be banging on about "huge dumps in the middle of the night", when there are simple explanations available.
You're obviously a bright bloke, so I can't understand why you would go down this path, rather than pay more (some?) attention to coverage in the sensible, responsible media (left, right or centre). He is a mentally-unstable, narcissistic scam artist and always has been. Throw in his likely imminent indictments by the SDNY and you have a man who will do anything to avoid leaving the White House.
I don't want to get into any specific arguments about 5,000,000 dead dogs in Fulton County voting for Biden - it's all fu cking bullsh it, and in an age where any old cu nt can broadcast any old made-up sh it to millions of viewers or readers, people really need to start being a bit more judicious about where they get their news from. This isn't a left or right thing - it's a truth v lies thing. We all need to be more mindful about what we share, because it's incredibly dangerous to be spreading disinformation.
Just read that back and I apologise if it sounds aggressive - it wasn't meant personally, I'm just really getting fu cked-off with reading so much easily disprovable misinformation on both Covid-19, and the 2020 US Election. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 20:58]
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| Trump on 21:02 - Jan 7 with 1897 views | BucksRanger |
Konk, if the affidavit signed by Arturo D'Elia is true then why would the man admit to such a thing knowing it would probably result in a prison term. D'Elia is/was the Chief Technical Officer at Leonardo SpA, the eighth largest aerospace, defence and security in the world.
I headed up my original post with a 'What if' statement. I'm not generally into conspiracy theories but this one intrigues me as, for the life of me, I can't see a positive in D'Elia admitting to these acts.
For me, it will be interesting to see what becomes of this story. Especially as the affidavit has now been delivered to Congress. |  | | |
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| Trump on 21:04 - Jan 7 with 1890 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
It's ironic that a guy that's been shouting about fake news for 4 years, has spread so much regarding the election results. | |
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| Trump on 21:06 - Jan 7 with 1890 views | Juzzie |
“ What if Trump was right? The election was stolen.
And what if someone found the bloke who did it and they have a signed affidavit from him?”
One bloke? To defraud a whole nation?
It would take something on a massive scale involving hundreds, maybe thousands, of people.
The only one person who has defrauded the country is the outgoing President. |  | | |
| Trump on 21:08 - Jan 7 with 1882 views | Watford_Ranger |
What if QPR are really top of the league but with the games behind closed doors the streams have been edited to make it look like we keep losing? | | | |
| Trump on 21:09 - Jan 7 with 2577 views | ozexile |
| Trump on 20:03 - Jan 7 by bosh67 |
For me it was really simple.
Trump knew he was going to lose the election. He claimed the vote would be rigged and fraudulent well before the elections even started. So did he have some kind of crystal ball? No, he knew his popularity had waned so he made the claim before any vote was cast.
It’s kind of like us being on a bad run and Warbuton saying, well we’ll play Luton but I’m telling you now it won’t be a fair game and if we lose it then it will be because Luton do so by unfair means and we won’t recognise that result and try and reverse it.
It’s called deflectacism. Predict the future so that if you win it’s fair and if you lose it’s not and it’s fraudulent. Never take blame, deflect it.
Although maybe we should try this in a week and a bit against Luton if we get tonked? |
Is it like being in a relegation dogfight and saying that your keeper hasn't been troubled all season? | | | |
| Trump on 21:09 - Jan 7 with 2573 views | traininvain |
| Trump on 21:02 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
Konk, if the affidavit signed by Arturo D'Elia is true then why would the man admit to such a thing knowing it would probably result in a prison term. D'Elia is/was the Chief Technical Officer at Leonardo SpA, the eighth largest aerospace, defence and security in the world.
I headed up my original post with a 'What if' statement. I'm not generally into conspiracy theories but this one intrigues me as, for the life of me, I can't see a positive in D'Elia admitting to these acts.
For me, it will be interesting to see what becomes of this story. Especially as the affidavit has now been delivered to Congress. |
Genuinely can’t tell if this is satire or real. | | | |
| Trump on 21:16 - Jan 7 with 2545 views | BucksRanger |
| Trump on 21:06 - Jan 7 by Juzzie |
“ What if Trump was right? The election was stolen.
And what if someone found the bloke who did it and they have a signed affidavit from him?”
One bloke? To defraud a whole nation?
It would take something on a massive scale involving hundreds, maybe thousands, of people.
The only one person who has defrauded the country is the outgoing President. |
It did involve many participants. Listen to the video. D'Elia is just the first person to admit to being part of the group changing votes from Trump to Biden.
I'd quite like to know why he signed that affidavit. But it seems I'm the only one who is. | | | |
| Trump on 21:20 - Jan 7 with 2527 views | Juzzie |
| Trump on 21:16 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
It did involve many participants. Listen to the video. D'Elia is just the first person to admit to being part of the group changing votes from Trump to Biden.
I'd quite like to know why he signed that affidavit. But it seems I'm the only one who is. |
Maybe he’d get a pardon from the re-elected PoTUS and a massive cheque? | | | |
| Trump on 21:25 - Jan 7 with 2499 views | LythamR |
| Trump on 21:16 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
It did involve many participants. Listen to the video. D'Elia is just the first person to admit to being part of the group changing votes from Trump to Biden.
I'd quite like to know why he signed that affidavit. But it seems I'm the only one who is. |
"I'd quite like to know why he signed that affidavit. But it seems I'm the only one who is."
Money or Blackmail perhaps, wouldnt be the first time on either score. Or perhaps he is just out of his tree like Trump |  | | |
| Trump on 21:25 - Jan 7 with 2498 views | Konk |
| Trump on 21:02 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
Konk, if the affidavit signed by Arturo D'Elia is true then why would the man admit to such a thing knowing it would probably result in a prison term. D'Elia is/was the Chief Technical Officer at Leonardo SpA, the eighth largest aerospace, defence and security in the world.
I headed up my original post with a 'What if' statement. I'm not generally into conspiracy theories but this one intrigues me as, for the life of me, I can't see a positive in D'Elia admitting to these acts.
For me, it will be interesting to see what becomes of this story. Especially as the affidavit has now been delivered to Congress. |
Is there any reason that Trump and his supporters haven't been submitting any evidence in their court cases? They apparently have thousands of sworn affidavits, and yet no evidence produced for courts to consider. I'm no lawyer, but that's an unusual strategy, no? If you have a compelling case, wouldn't you, I dunno, produce some evidence? It's one of the reasons, apparently, that no serious law firms have touched the cases (that and the fact that Trump never pays his bills).
Just did a quick search on your man - funnily enough, I can't see any reference to him on any credible site, on the first few pages of my Google search. I couldn't be ar sed to look any further. Not sure this is much of a smoking gun.
As for his motive for making it up (if it's made-up) - well, the President of the USA is a genuinely deranged, deluded nutcase, so I guess that means anyone else could be too. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:28]
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| Trump on 21:33 - Jan 7 with 2468 views | kensalriser |
| Trump on 21:16 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
It did involve many participants. Listen to the video. D'Elia is just the first person to admit to being part of the group changing votes from Trump to Biden.
I'd quite like to know why he signed that affidavit. But it seems I'm the only one who is. |
In all seriousness, I fear for your mental health if you carry on consuming and regurgitating toxic nonsense. |  |
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| Trump on 21:36 - Jan 7 with 2451 views | qprd |
| Trump on 21:02 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
Konk, if the affidavit signed by Arturo D'Elia is true then why would the man admit to such a thing knowing it would probably result in a prison term. D'Elia is/was the Chief Technical Officer at Leonardo SpA, the eighth largest aerospace, defence and security in the world.
I headed up my original post with a 'What if' statement. I'm not generally into conspiracy theories but this one intrigues me as, for the life of me, I can't see a positive in D'Elia admitting to these acts.
For me, it will be interesting to see what becomes of this story. Especially as the affidavit has now been delivered to Congress. |
its sad that adults can be so gullible
take a look at donald trumps statements in 2016 when he lost the iowa primary to ted cruz...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/03/donald-trump-ted-cruz-stole-iowa
he also claimed he won the popular vote in 2016 if not for the 3 million illegal mexican immigrants who somehow voted for clinton
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38126438
this is his move... he is such an egomaniac that rather than accept he lost, he would rather claim some random conspiracies
im less bothered by trumps lies... he has been doing it for all his life and will continue to lie at all costs
im more concerned how adults who believe this, who even lend it any credence, function in society... | | | |
| Trump on 21:43 - Jan 7 with 2415 views | BucksRanger |
| Trump on 21:25 - Jan 7 by Konk |
Is there any reason that Trump and his supporters haven't been submitting any evidence in their court cases? They apparently have thousands of sworn affidavits, and yet no evidence produced for courts to consider. I'm no lawyer, but that's an unusual strategy, no? If you have a compelling case, wouldn't you, I dunno, produce some evidence? It's one of the reasons, apparently, that no serious law firms have touched the cases (that and the fact that Trump never pays his bills).
Just did a quick search on your man - funnily enough, I can't see any reference to him on any credible site, on the first few pages of my Google search. I couldn't be ar sed to look any further. Not sure this is much of a smoking gun.
As for his motive for making it up (if it's made-up) - well, the President of the USA is a genuinely deranged, deluded nutcase, so I guess that means anyone else could be too. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:28]
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I haven't stood up for Trump in any of the other cases he's brought. I have assumed in every instance that if he didn't produce evidence it was because he had none.
This case is just a bit different. It didn't come from Trump. The affidavit is new to all and sundry in US Government although I believe Maria Zack had talked to Trump beforehand about the possibility of having a smoking gun coming.
I have now discovered that D'Elia was arrested on a hacking charge at Leonardo SpA in early December. This affidavit might just be connected to the charge he was arrested for last month.
He might be using it to deflect from the computer hacking he is charged with or it might be to admit to all wrongdoings before he gets to court.
Anyway, I'm curious about it, I suppose, because of my previous IT background. | | | |
| Trump on 21:45 - Jan 7 with 2406 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Trump on 21:43 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
I haven't stood up for Trump in any of the other cases he's brought. I have assumed in every instance that if he didn't produce evidence it was because he had none.
This case is just a bit different. It didn't come from Trump. The affidavit is new to all and sundry in US Government although I believe Maria Zack had talked to Trump beforehand about the possibility of having a smoking gun coming.
I have now discovered that D'Elia was arrested on a hacking charge at Leonardo SpA in early December. This affidavit might just be connected to the charge he was arrested for last month.
He might be using it to deflect from the computer hacking he is charged with or it might be to admit to all wrongdoings before he gets to court.
Anyway, I'm curious about it, I suppose, because of my previous IT background. |
What exactly did you do in IT out of interest?
If you don't mind sharing of course. Genuine question. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:47]
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| Trump on 21:46 - Jan 7 with 2380 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Bucks, you keep on questioning anything you like. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:47]
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| Trump on 21:51 - Jan 7 with 2350 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Trump on 21:45 - Jan 7 by BazzaInTheLoft |
What exactly did you do in IT out of interest?
If you don't mind sharing of course. Genuine question. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:47]
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| Trump on 21:55 - Jan 7 with 2353 views | Konk |
| Trump on 21:43 - Jan 7 by BucksRanger |
I haven't stood up for Trump in any of the other cases he's brought. I have assumed in every instance that if he didn't produce evidence it was because he had none.
This case is just a bit different. It didn't come from Trump. The affidavit is new to all and sundry in US Government although I believe Maria Zack had talked to Trump beforehand about the possibility of having a smoking gun coming.
I have now discovered that D'Elia was arrested on a hacking charge at Leonardo SpA in early December. This affidavit might just be connected to the charge he was arrested for last month.
He might be using it to deflect from the computer hacking he is charged with or it might be to admit to all wrongdoings before he gets to court.
Anyway, I'm curious about it, I suppose, because of my previous IT background. |
I'm not having a dig here, but the Times will screw Tory Governments if they have a good scoop, The Guardian will publish stories that embarrass Labour; the idea that MSM (God, I fu cking hate that I just typed that), across the board are ignoring huge stories - such as this would be - is just flying in the face of reality. If there was anything to stories of this ilk, then surely MSM would be all over it; half the media would love nothing more than for evidence of Dem fraud. A perfect example being the Hunter Biden laptop story that even FOX news rejected as lacking credibility, and which Trump's people still want us to believe failed to pick-up any traction because of some MSM (argh!) conspiracy. | |
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| Trump on 21:56 - Jan 7 with 2346 views | BucksRanger |
| Trump on 21:45 - Jan 7 by BazzaInTheLoft |
What exactly did you do in IT out of interest?
If you don't mind sharing of course. Genuine question. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 21:47]
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Lots of job titles Bazza.
As a youngster I was a computer programmer, I progressed to working as a business analyst and systems analyst, later on I became a project manager, department head and, finally, I was head of IT for a multi-national company.
If you are looking for my weaknesses in IT, they would be on the hardware side of things. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 22:11]
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