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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan 15:50 - Feb 9 with 11537 viewsTummer_from_Texas

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/09/swansea-owners-interview-made-s

I'd like to see the detailed math on how they came up with 114.3MM in player expenditures versus 89.9MM in income from player sales. I've tried to give these guys the benefit of the doubt, but it sure doesn't seem to add up, TBH.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:00 - Feb 9 with 1820 viewsbonymine

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:27 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

Oh yes. You're quite right. Nice to see you sober old chap 👍


Cheers Chrissy 😉👍

PS Congrats on the new arrival here’s to many, many sleepless nights 😂😉....
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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:15 - Feb 9 with 1785 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:44 - Feb 9 by shandyjack

i'm talking more in terms of the glaring gaps in the squad, going into the season with only Rangel as a back up FB was crazy, luckily Roberts has stepped up now. Mesa was a disaster, we needed a creative player in and Sanches was too young and inexperienced to rely upon to provide this.
But i was always of the belief the squad overall was better than PC was getting out of them.


Yes there is definitely areas we could improve on, I'll agree there.

In another world I wonder how disastrous Mesa would've been? I'm guessing he was already on the way back to Spain by the time Carlos came in.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:16 - Feb 9 with 1783 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:00 - Feb 9 by bonymine

Cheers Chrissy 😉👍

PS Congrats on the new arrival here’s to many, many sleepless nights 😂😉....
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Thank you mate, really appreciate that 👍

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:17 - Feb 9 with 1774 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:52 - Feb 9 by BlasterJack

A huge profit at a time when player prices have been rising at an extraordinary rate.
They went for profit because of the market, nothing more.

Our squad value is high because of the stupid prices being paid for bang average players, nothing to do with smart purchases.


The market is the market mate.

Prices are relative.

It's only Siggy you could describe as extraordinary.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:19 - Feb 9 with 1763 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:59 - Feb 9 by Shaky

Bingo.


Busted.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:22 - Feb 9 with 1746 viewsscruffyjack

Wow, what a really nice interview, quality journalism
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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:35 - Feb 9 with 1707 viewsShaky

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:17 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

The market is the market mate.

Prices are relative.

It's only Siggy you could describe as extraordinary.



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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:41 - Feb 9 with 1695 viewsShaky

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:25 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

I've long since believed the money we had for Siggy was miles off 45m so I guess I probably do believe that, yes


The market is the market, except in the case of the Siggy, where
a) it is not; and;
b) there was a secret plot to over-report the fee to make you look daft.


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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:45 - Feb 9 with 1672 viewsshandyjack

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:15 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

Yes there is definitely areas we could improve on, I'll agree there.

In another world I wonder how disastrous Mesa would've been? I'm guessing he was already on the way back to Spain by the time Carlos came in.


Agreed, under BR or ML I would assume mesa would fit right in, but it’s a strange signing when PC didn’t play the old Swansea way and would struggle to fit Mesa into his non flexable style

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:53 - Feb 9 with 1664 viewstheloneranger

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:15 - Feb 9 by bonymine

Double x Double carpet Res... double carpet is 33/1 😉 just saying !


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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:54 - Feb 9 with 1663 viewsharryhpalmer

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 16:10 - Feb 9 by Oldjack

And I want to be very clear, we have no intention of moving Alfie. This guy is a stalwart of our club."
if the moneys right he'll be on his toes ,cut the bullshtye ffs


mmm, we could have signed Mawson for a fraction of what he cost us 12 months earlier, when he left Brentford for Barnsley!

Leadbeatter had already recommended him.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:03 - Feb 9 with 1644 viewsharryhpalmer

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 19:23 - Feb 9 by Shaky

What is in your opinion a credible comprehensive source for transfer market data?

Anyone?


you can take off about £10m of the Siggy transfer as we had to pay Spurs a sell-on fee.

Also need to factor in the the pay offs to players like Tabanou.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:07 - Feb 9 with 1636 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:41 - Feb 9 by Shaky

The market is the market, except in the case of the Siggy, where
a) it is not; and;
b) there was a secret plot to over-report the fee to make you look daft.



Maybe you understand what point you're making, and laughing to yourself. Good man.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:09 - Feb 9 with 1629 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:54 - Feb 9 by harryhpalmer

mmm, we could have signed Mawson for a fraction of what he cost us 12 months earlier, when he left Brentford for Barnsley!

Leadbeatter had already recommended him.


So what like?

We had a bargain just after he had made a start in the Championship. You've banged this drum before in some weird kind of way to actually knock the signing of Alfie Mawson.

A special kind of facked up sad, that is. Well done.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:12 - Feb 9 with 1621 viewsTom1912

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:09 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

So what like?

We had a bargain just after he had made a start in the Championship. You've banged this drum before in some weird kind of way to actually knock the signing of Alfie Mawson.

A special kind of facked up sad, that is. Well done.


Agreed.

Of all the signings we’ve made, Mawson is not the one to criticise.
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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:30 - Feb 9 with 1580 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 20:54 - Feb 9 by harryhpalmer

mmm, we could have signed Mawson for a fraction of what he cost us 12 months earlier, when he left Brentford for Barnsley!

Leadbeatter had already recommended him.


Instead, we signed him when we needed him - just a few days after Ash went to Everton.

And the vast majority of our supporters immediately freaked out that this was our idea for a replacement.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:58 - Feb 9 with 1538 viewsNirvana

These guys are absolutely full of sshitt.

JENKINS OUT.

End of.
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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:00 - Feb 9 with 1528 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:30 - Feb 9 by Tummer_from_Texas

Instead, we signed him when we needed him - just a few days after Ash went to Everton.

And the vast majority of our supporters immediately freaked out that this was our idea for a replacement.


Now that would be a thread or two to revisit and pour over, as would the Llorente signings one's would be.

You can never please a Swans fan.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:13 - Feb 9 with 1493 viewsCooperman

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:00 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

Now that would be a thread or two to revisit and pour over, as would the Llorente signings one's would be.

You can never please a Swans fan.


From what I can remember it wasn’t too bad a thread, all fairly positive.
I seem to remember MagicDaps arguing with himself.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:21 - Feb 9 with 1463 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:00 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

Now that would be a thread or two to revisit and pour over, as would the Llorente signings one's would be.

You can never please a Swans fan.


Indeed it would.

Alfie Mawson by Landore_Jack 26 Aug 2016 18:07
Fee agreed with Barnsley

http://mobile.swanseacity.net/news/article/2016-17/swansea-agree-fee-barnsley-alfie-mawson-3273883.aspx?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Facebook



At least a few of us had some positive things to say about him, right from the get go.
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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:23 - Feb 9 with 1459 viewsharryhpalmer

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 21:30 - Feb 9 by Tummer_from_Texas

Instead, we signed him when we needed him - just a few days after Ash went to Everton.

And the vast majority of our supporters immediately freaked out that this was our idea for a replacement.


Because he wasn't meant to be Ash's replacement. They thoguth Amat would step up.

The fact remains, they could have saved several million by signing him when he was identifed by the head of recruitment, but didnt.

We criticise for wasting money, and not identifying 'bargain' players when we used to.

Then we have a Chairman ignoring advice.

Yes, we will make a huge profit, eventually on Mawson. But that's not the fecking point, is it!

It is about a flawed recruitment, run by the Chairman/DOF.

Another example - one of many for the Academy and U23s is the Academy - is the Boston kid we just signed. This will block some very good U18s from moving up, and then those below them too.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:01 - Feb 9 with 1391 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:21 - Feb 9 by Tummer_from_Texas

Indeed it would.

Alfie Mawson by Landore_Jack 26 Aug 2016 18:07
Fee agreed with Barnsley

http://mobile.swanseacity.net/news/article/2016-17/swansea-agree-fee-barnsley-alfie-mawson-3273883.aspx?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Facebook



At least a few of us had some positive things to say about him, right from the get go.
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You went and found it as well

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:02 - Feb 9 with 1390 viewsTheResurrection

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 22:13 - Feb 9 by Cooperman

From what I can remember it wasn’t too bad a thread, all fairly positive.
I seem to remember MagicDaps arguing with himself.


Hell of a memory on you, Coops!!

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:13 - Feb 9 with 1369 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:01 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

You went and found it as well


To be fair, the further I dug into the thread, there wasn't the negativity I had recalled.

There was plenty of it on twitter, but the "vast majority" freaking out like I described earlier today wasn't really accurate.

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Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:21 - Feb 9 with 1346 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Guardian interview with Levien and Kaplan on 23:01 - Feb 9 by TheResurrection

You went and found it as well


That was a relief reading that.

I managed to avoid making a fool of myself for once.

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