| Genuine question - from a Trust Member 19:19 - Nov 5 with 53463 views | marchamjack |
Were The Trust any part of the discussion process to keep Clement?
Thanks in advance. |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:10 - Nov 11 with 1871 views | monmouth |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:05 - Nov 11 by Darran |
I think what you meant there was which they can do as long as he’s a member |
Yes. Which probably rules him and 99.5% of the whole fan base out. I wonder if the ‘supporters’ Trust board might ask themselves why that is?
All season ticket holders should be automatic members of the supporters trust. As soon as dividends rolled into town that tenner and a voluntary membership was pointless. A true supporters trust backed by 16000 co-opted members could be enormously powerful. Instead it is nothing.
I’m really pissed off about this Dar, aren’t you? [Post edited 11 Nov 2017 9:10]
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:20 - Nov 11 with 1837 views | Darran |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:10 - Nov 11 by monmouth |
Yes. Which probably rules him and 99.5% of the whole fan base out. I wonder if the ‘supporters’ Trust board might ask themselves why that is?
All season ticket holders should be automatic members of the supporters trust. As soon as dividends rolled into town that tenner and a voluntary membership was pointless. A true supporters trust backed by 16000 co-opted members could be enormously powerful. Instead it is nothing.
I’m really pissed off about this Dar, aren’t you? [Post edited 11 Nov 2017 9:10]
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I’m absolutely fuming. I’ve said all along that the Trust has made massive mistakes and need to learn from them but they seem to be still making them.
I’m not singling out individuals either but Uxbridge posting on here is atrocious. |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:30 - Nov 11 with 1817 views | SoberBaker |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:20 - Nov 11 by Darran |
I’m absolutely fuming. I’ve said all along that the Trust has made massive mistakes and need to learn from them but they seem to be still making them.
I’m not singling out individuals either but Uxbridge posting on here is atrocious. |
"but Uxbridge posting on here is atrocious"
His posting style? or the fact the poor b@stard is the only one man enough to come on here to communicate for the rest of the $hithouses? [Post edited 11 Nov 2017 9:32]
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:33 - Nov 11 with 1800 views | Darran |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:30 - Nov 11 by SoberBaker |
"but Uxbridge posting on here is atrocious"
His posting style? or the fact the poor b@stard is the only one man enough to come on here to communicate for the rest of the $hithouses? [Post edited 11 Nov 2017 9:32]
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Neither he just doesn’t help the situation. | |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:39 - Nov 11 with 1784 views | SoberBaker |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:33 - Nov 11 by Darran |
Neither he just doesn’t help the situation. |
Don't get me wrong, he can be abrasive on times. He could quite easily hide away but at least he's got the balls to come on here and at least provide some insight into things.
Pointless turning on our only means of comms. | |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:44 - Nov 11 with 1773 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:39 - Nov 11 by SoberBaker |
Don't get me wrong, he can be abrasive on times. He could quite easily hide away but at least he's got the balls to come on here and at least provide some insight into things.
Pointless turning on our only means of comms. |
That’s the way I see it. I feel a bit sorry for him because I genuinely believe he, and others there want things to change, but something or someone is holding them back.
Very sad times. |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:48 - Nov 11 with 1762 views | Oldjack |
Sit there don't go ruffling any feathers and be a good little boy and might just get your pocket money ,ok boss
Tt seems its been like this for some considerable time now |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:54 - Nov 11 with 1737 views | costalotta |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:44 - Nov 11 by 34dfgdf54 |
That’s the way I see it. I feel a bit sorry for him because I genuinely believe he, and others there want things to change, but something or someone is holding them back.
Very sad times. |
If thats the case then the something is hold THEM back.
Come on, it doesn't matter whether they are great people or good mates or whatever. They are there to do a job, which they are not doing.
We need to look at this in a proper, professional and business like manner. Ask yourself, have they done a good job and are they fit for purpose at this and during recent times, and going forward. In my view its a BIG NO! |  | | |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:58 - Nov 11 with 1725 views | awayjack |
I don't know how these representing fans can show their faces at matches. I'm embarrassed as I persuaded a few friends and family to join last year in belief the money would help pay legals to fight Yanks / Shareholders. Probably gone to fund the prawn sandwiches these yes men get. |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:01 - Nov 11 with 1721 views | Joe_bradshaw |
The question for me is: who are the people who are going to stand for election to the Trust board on a radical ticket to change things and move forward?
Is the answer to set up a new supporters’ group to arrange demonstrations, leaflet distribution etc. etc?
I’m struggling to see what combative posts on here are actually achieving. |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:06 - Nov 11 with 1701 views | BillyChong |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:44 - Nov 11 by 34dfgdf54 |
That’s the way I see it. I feel a bit sorry for him because I genuinely believe he, and others there want things to change, but something or someone is holding them back.
Very sad times. |
If that’s the case they need to walk and let it be known to all what’s going on |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:06 - Nov 11 with 1699 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:54 - Nov 11 by costalotta |
If thats the case then the something is hold THEM back.
Come on, it doesn't matter whether they are great people or good mates or whatever. They are there to do a job, which they are not doing.
We need to look at this in a proper, professional and business like manner. Ask yourself, have they done a good job and are they fit for purpose at this and during recent times, and going forward. In my view its a BIG NO! |
No I completely agree with you.
Like I said yesterday, that is the straw that breaks the camels back for me personally. They are bringing nothing to the party any longer from what I can see. | | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:08 - Nov 11 with 1688 views | budegan |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:01 - Nov 11 by Joe_bradshaw |
The question for me is: who are the people who are going to stand for election to the Trust board on a radical ticket to change things and move forward?
Is the answer to set up a new supporters’ group to arrange demonstrations, leaflet distribution etc. etc?
I’m struggling to see what combative posts on here are actually achieving. |
There does seem to be a need for a splinter / separate group.
Truly independent.
The time for representation is NOW.
Peaceful but loud action is called for - we'll never get a second chance at this.
Even if are heading down the swanny let's do so with a bang not a whimper. |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:08 - Nov 11 with 1680 views | SoberBaker |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:01 - Nov 11 by Joe_bradshaw |
The question for me is: who are the people who are going to stand for election to the Trust board on a radical ticket to change things and move forward?
Is the answer to set up a new supporters’ group to arrange demonstrations, leaflet distribution etc. etc?
I’m struggling to see what combative posts on here are actually achieving. |
I reckon the current Trust should co-opt a lone gunman who doesn't give a flying f*ck.
One that will spew partizan soundbites to the press/media and to throw a few f*cks around without fear of recrimination.
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:10 - Nov 11 with 1669 views | QJumpingJack |
It seems the Americans and our Chairman are succeeding in splitting our fan base which is the saddest part. | | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:43 - Nov 11 with 1601 views | Shaky |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:08 - Nov 11 by budegan |
There does seem to be a need for a splinter / separate group.
Truly independent.
The time for representation is NOW.
Peaceful but loud action is called for - we'll never get a second chance at this.
Even if are heading down the swanny let's do so with a bang not a whimper. |
In my view there needs to be an explicit strategy or agenda articulated by somebody, that the fans can either support to argue against, with a view to improvement and consensus.
Several years ago the Trust set up a subcommittee to ostensibly produce a strategy for the Trust. Month after month it was delayed, and then after a year or so all mention was quietly binned from the minutes.
For an organisation with assets valued at close to £25 million it is scandalous not to have a clear strategy. instead the public has to rely on bland statements from Trust board members about how long they have supported the club and how many children they have. Hopeless. |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:47 - Nov 11 with 1581 views | waynekerr55 |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:10 - Nov 11 by monmouth |
Yes. Which probably rules him and 99.5% of the whole fan base out. I wonder if the ‘supporters’ Trust board might ask themselves why that is?
All season ticket holders should be automatic members of the supporters trust. As soon as dividends rolled into town that tenner and a voluntary membership was pointless. A true supporters trust backed by 16000 co-opted members could be enormously powerful. Instead it is nothing.
I’m really pissed off about this Dar, aren’t you? [Post edited 11 Nov 2017 9:10]
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All ST holders were automatically members but the club put a stop to that. Not a chance will be get our hands on that data now |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:51 - Nov 11 with 1574 views | pencoedjack |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 09:54 - Nov 11 by costalotta |
If thats the case then the something is hold THEM back.
Come on, it doesn't matter whether they are great people or good mates or whatever. They are there to do a job, which they are not doing.
We need to look at this in a proper, professional and business like manner. Ask yourself, have they done a good job and are they fit for purpose at this and during recent times, and going forward. In my view its a BIG NO! |
Serious question .... Are the people who run the trust professional people or just fans of Swansea City with time on their hands ?
They are the mouthpiece of a 20% stake in a multi million pound business to me they are an embarrassment who it seems obvious shrewd business people will walk over. |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 11:23 - Nov 11 with 1530 views | BLAZE |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 10:47 - Nov 11 by waynekerr55 |
All ST holders were automatically members but the club put a stop to that. Not a chance will be get our hands on that data now |
Then have a free recruitment drive - make it as easy and straightforward as possible to sign up. Make it very clear that the Supporters Trust wished to make all Season Ticket holders automatic members, but the big nasty directors of the club won't allow it for fear of fans gaining their voice back. Offer free membership to every man and his dog, season ticket holder or not. Get the numbers up, and I don't mean the financial numbers either, that's no longer an issue. Then start putting out statements that actually say something. Find a William Wallace and along with the increased membership, stand back and watch that voice grow exponentially
We should have a battle on our hands, instead we're on our knees and taking the full length of it |  | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 11:34 - Nov 11 with 1513 views | Oldjack |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 11:23 - Nov 11 by BLAZE |
Then have a free recruitment drive - make it as easy and straightforward as possible to sign up. Make it very clear that the Supporters Trust wished to make all Season Ticket holders automatic members, but the big nasty directors of the club won't allow it for fear of fans gaining their voice back. Offer free membership to every man and his dog, season ticket holder or not. Get the numbers up, and I don't mean the financial numbers either, that's no longer an issue. Then start putting out statements that actually say something. Find a William Wallace and along with the increased membership, stand back and watch that voice grow exponentially
We should have a battle on our hands, instead we're on our knees and taking the full length of it |
Unfortunately is seems the trust has no backbone for a fight, far to many prawn sandwiches to be lost
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| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 12:48 - Nov 11 with 1461 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 22:45 - Nov 10 by marchamjack |
Go on the Trust website. It's on there now. I had to myself as I couldn't believe the email I received.
It is the statement. |
Puts £10 back in pocket... | | | |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 13:00 - Nov 11 with 1435 views | E20Jack |
Its the lack of awareness that gets me. How not a single one of them would realise this would look bad on them is beyond me. Just like them coming on here in the middle of a sh*tstorm of questions to tell us who won the annual raffle. Its like a continuous joke, or a sit com.
But on a more sinister note it does scream out that someone has something over them. For the sake of the club I would rather them fess up now, offer their resignation and move on for the best direction of the Trust and the club. Not this continuous underhand steering of thoughts and votes in ways that clearly damage the club but save some face as the trade off. |  |
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| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 13:01 - Nov 11 with 1434 views | whoflungdung |
| Genuine question - from a Trust Member on 11:23 - Nov 11 by BLAZE |
Then have a free recruitment drive - make it as easy and straightforward as possible to sign up. Make it very clear that the Supporters Trust wished to make all Season Ticket holders automatic members, but the big nasty directors of the club won't allow it for fear of fans gaining their voice back. Offer free membership to every man and his dog, season ticket holder or not. Get the numbers up, and I don't mean the financial numbers either, that's no longer an issue. Then start putting out statements that actually say something. Find a William Wallace and along with the increased membership, stand back and watch that voice grow exponentially
We should have a battle on our hands, instead we're on our knees and taking the full length of it |
Fans need to be united and there is zero chance of that if this site is anything to go on.
We have fans ripping the gizzards out of those who ,like me, weren't opposed to A take over. Nobody KNEW things would turn out as they have but that doesn't stop some using this mess to slag off posters they don't like for some reason.
To be united, we need to accept a few home truths and act for the general good of the club we love. Some ,of course, have greater love than others and this is just what we need to jettison if we re to move forward.
We re sinking fast .I don't share the view the players are better than what they are playing like under Clement ,not much anyway. It seems they have little professional pride for top earners . Don't like him as a coach then front up to him at training ,maybe captain decide we r e not happy with this clown and we ll play to our strengths ;what we r e happier with. Are our players that dense or lacking in basic pride.
I hate to say this but this would not happen under a captain like Keane, Gerrard even Lampard | |
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