| Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 297705 views | EllDale |
They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about? |  | | |  |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:02 - Jul 19 with 3811 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:40 - Jul 18 by Dalenet |
Andy The Hornet is suggesting that legal action against RAFC is imminent. Grabs some popcorn and wait for this to kick off
I love his interaction on the comparison with Oldham. Talk about blowing your own |
It’s always about him. Me, me, me that bloke and always has been. To their credit, Hornets fans aren’t like bury were with Stewart Day (another lover of himself) and are wising up to him. His only fan seems to be ‘joe90’ who has mysteriously reappeared at the exact same time as The Hornet… |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 15:18 - Jul 19 with 3558 views | AtThePeake |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:48 - Jul 18 by RAFCBLUE |
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/1113/rochdale-hornets-match-operati
Looks like some clarity has been given.
London Skolars — Sunday 24 July.
The anticipated crowd is likely to be under 920 and therefore we will only operate half a main stand. Fans are welcome to join us in the lounge for refreshments, as normal, and we look forward to welcoming all fans. The turnstiles will be open from 2pm.
Swinton Lions - Sunday 31 July.
Following extensive discussions with RAFC, the capacity of the main stand will be reinstated to its capacity of 1600. Both Turnstiles 1-3 and 4-6 will be open with the relevant turnstile printed on your ticket. We are aiming to fill the main stand and as its likely to be a busy game, we remind all fans to buy online. |
I was at the Rochdale Sunday League Cup Final at Spotland a month or two ago and the crowd there required more than half the Main Stand.
Not sure it was quite 920 but wouldn't be surprised if it was higher than quite a few Hornets games this season looking at the list. A damning indictment if more people are interested in watching amateur football than professional rugby. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:39 - Jul 19 with 3363 views | HullDale |
He's at it again with the passive aggressive digs...
How professional!! |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:46 - Jul 19 with 3337 views | judd |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:39 - Jul 19 by HullDale |
He's at it again with the passive aggressive digs...
How professional!! |
At a community event at Spotland a couple of months ago, attended by the AFC Chairman and Supporters Trust Chairman, and with an equal number of fans from both clubs, not one Hornets Director turned up to the joint initiative.
On the evening one Hornets fan told me at rhe time that the Hornets 150 years history book was not available in their club shop. [Post edited 19 Jul 2022 21:47]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:05 - Jul 19 with 3264 views | EllDale |
I’m not sure the stadiums are run in the same way and so can’t be directly compared.
The original Doncaster Community Stadium was council backed as part of the Lakeside Complex if I remember rightly.
It was going to be jointly shared by Doncaster Rovers, Doncaster Belles and Doncaster RLFC.
Unfortunately the stadium wasn’t breaking even and became a bit of a political hot potato.
This ended up with Rovers taking out a long lease as principal users.
Totally different to the current set-up at the COA. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:18 - Jul 19 with 3199 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:46 - Jul 19 by judd |
At a community event at Spotland a couple of months ago, attended by the AFC Chairman and Supporters Trust Chairman, and with an equal number of fans from both clubs, not one Hornets Director turned up to the joint initiative.
On the evening one Hornets fan told me at rhe time that the Hornets 150 years history book was not available in their club shop. [Post edited 19 Jul 2022 21:47]
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And we know what he means by together from his past record
Do it the way I say …or I am off. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:20 - Jul 19 with 3193 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:39 - Jul 19 by HullDale |
He's at it again with the passive aggressive digs...
How professional!! |
Funny as I read that Tweet as more of a dig by the Hornets Chairman at Rochdale Council for not putting up money to be bidding for host status for the upcoming Rugby League World Cup unlike places like Doncaster, Leigh and York which did and will see games play in those towns.
Doncaster's council ran a year long campaign to have games and that bid was successful and they are hosting Samoa.
https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php?/topic/337780-news-doncaster-wins-right
https://www.rlwc2021.com/article/9/england-win-bid-to-stage-rugby-league-world-c
The tournament will benefit from central government backing with up to £15m pledged to help support the hosting of the Rugby League World Cup in 2021 and a further £10m to support infrastructure for the sport and grow the game across the country.
£25 million going in to the game at those venues and local communities so lucrative for host cities/towns that are taking part.
Rochdale Hornets were arranging England vs Fiji as a warm-up game for the 2021 tournament but that was postponed due to Covid-19 as was the whole Rugby League World Cup into 2022.
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/927/england-v-fiji-postponed-until- |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:31 - Jul 19 with 3173 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:05 - Jul 19 by EllDale |
I’m not sure the stadiums are run in the same way and so can’t be directly compared.
The original Doncaster Community Stadium was council backed as part of the Lakeside Complex if I remember rightly.
It was going to be jointly shared by Doncaster Rovers, Doncaster Belles and Doncaster RLFC.
Unfortunately the stadium wasn’t breaking even and became a bit of a political hot potato.
This ended up with Rovers taking out a long lease as principal users.
Totally different to the current set-up at the COA. |
The stadium set up at Rochdale is really straightforward.
It's owned outright and mortgage free. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:33 - Jul 19 with 3172 views | EllDale |
As was alluded to another thread recently I’m not sure that the COA, much as we love it, possesses the basic criteria to host major representative fixtures in any code.
Things like extensive hospitality areas, enhanced media facilities and car parking for example.
And I was told several years ago that the absence of a dedicated TV gantry goes against the stadium.
Presumably the local authority and the club were made aware of basic criteria and decided not to bid accordingly? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:35 - Jul 19 with 3162 views | judd |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:31 - Jul 19 by RAFCBLUE |
The stadium set up at Rochdale is really straightforward.
It's owned outright and mortgage free. |
Agreed and there's also a dig at this arrangement on their message board.
There is a distinct lack of clarity. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 23:12 - Jul 19 with 3101 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:33 - Jul 19 by EllDale |
As was alluded to another thread recently I’m not sure that the COA, much as we love it, possesses the basic criteria to host major representative fixtures in any code.
Things like extensive hospitality areas, enhanced media facilities and car parking for example.
And I was told several years ago that the absence of a dedicated TV gantry goes against the stadium.
Presumably the local authority and the club were made aware of basic criteria and decided not to bid accordingly? |
Rochdale as a town definitely bid in 2013:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/video-rochdale-launches-
Rochdale has launched its bid to host a game in the 2013 Rugby League World Cup. If the bid is successful Spotland Stadium could host to a first round game in the event.
Representatives from the council were joined but officials from the Rugby Football League at Spotland to unveil the bid and discuss the benefits of staging a game during the 14-team tournament.
Council Leader Colin Lambert said: "It would be good for the borough. Sport plays a big role in the community and I think our residents appreciate it."
It was a successful bid.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/in-pictures-the-last-time-rochdale-hosted-a
No idea if the Council tried for the 2021 World Cup. Seems odd that they did in 2013 but not for 2021. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 00:32 - Jul 20 with 3001 views | Sandyman |
International Rugby League has been successfully hosted at Spotland as recently as 2013.
All tickets sold.
A great celebration of the game and the town's international RL connections.
New kid in town Mazey won't have a clue about that, so he chooses to bitch instead.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/in-pictures-the-last-time-rochdale-hosted-a
"RochdaleGlory" my arse. Where will he be in 2 years? Where he wasn't 9 years ago missing international RL is my guess. [Post edited 20 Jul 2022 2:25]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Jul 20 with 2748 views | kel |
Wonderful rant from Andy Hornet on their forum today.
Can somebody check on him please? 😂😂😂 | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:19 - Jul 20 with 2638 views | isitme |
| Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Jul 20 by kel |
Wonderful rant from Andy Hornet on their forum today.
Can somebody check on him please? 😂😂😂 |
I see they have agreed that they need to get out of Spotland. I wonder where Hornets could go? |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 17:03 - Jul 20 with 2575 views | judd |
| Hornets on Sunday on 15:45 - Jul 20 by kel |
Wonderful rant from Andy Hornet on their forum today.
Can somebody check on him please? 😂😂😂 |
Have you get a link, please Kel? | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:16 - Jul 20 with 2543 views | judd |
Click on it for us, will yer, fella? | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:24 - Jul 20 with 2527 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets on Sunday on 16:19 - Jul 20 by isitme |
I see they have agreed that they need to get out of Spotland. I wonder where Hornets could go? |
Some might say to Elland back |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:28 - Jul 20 with 2511 views | TVOS1907 |
The name E Thickett seems to have a G missing. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:55 - Jul 20 with 2444 views | EllDale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 17:24 - Jul 20 by D_Alien |
Some might say to Elland back |
Haha we don’t want them here!!!! | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:23 - Jul 20 with 2378 views | 442Dale |
If someone says “personally I would have detailed” something, why don’t they if they have all the facts to hand? |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:34 - Jul 20 with 2231 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:23 - Jul 20 by 442Dale |
If someone says “personally I would have detailed” something, why don’t they if they have all the facts to hand? |
I guess 442, the pressure is on now.
Mazey has said the stated aim is to get to the Championship and the only way to do that is either win the league or go up via the playoffs.
There are only two promotion spots and six teams for those places. It looks like Keighley's Cougars will win the league so that is then one promotion place for 5 teams.
The quality in that division is so poor in that the top 6 now will be the top six at the end of the season, question is in which order.
So there is a lot of deflection going by "The Hornet" on to distract away from the actual rugby. It's a clever distraction if it is fallen for because by my reckoning Hornets still have to play:
Swinton (h) - currently 3rd
Doncaster (a) - currently 5th
Crusaders (a) - currently 2nd
Keighley (h) - currently 1st
I can't seeing them winning all of those games and then that becomes the lottery of the playoffs. Lose all four and they might finish 6th.
Clearly if they fail to get promoted this season its going to be another year in the basement division and with the cuts to RFL funding another season with limited resources and limited crowds and against the backdrop of the RFL trying to get to 20 teams, from a current pool of 37. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 20:40 - Jul 20 with 2115 views | EllDale |
Pretty good summary. The thing that strikes me is that it could be so close between positions two to six that points difference may be the deciding factor.
Hornets do score plenty of points but tend to concede a lot as well though, unnecessary ones in some cases, a hallmark of Matt Calland’s teams over the years. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:49 - Jul 20 with 2099 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:34 - Jul 20 by RAFCBLUE |
I guess 442, the pressure is on now.
Mazey has said the stated aim is to get to the Championship and the only way to do that is either win the league or go up via the playoffs.
There are only two promotion spots and six teams for those places. It looks like Keighley's Cougars will win the league so that is then one promotion place for 5 teams.
The quality in that division is so poor in that the top 6 now will be the top six at the end of the season, question is in which order.
So there is a lot of deflection going by "The Hornet" on to distract away from the actual rugby. It's a clever distraction if it is fallen for because by my reckoning Hornets still have to play:
Swinton (h) - currently 3rd
Doncaster (a) - currently 5th
Crusaders (a) - currently 2nd
Keighley (h) - currently 1st
I can't seeing them winning all of those games and then that becomes the lottery of the playoffs. Lose all four and they might finish 6th.
Clearly if they fail to get promoted this season its going to be another year in the basement division and with the cuts to RFL funding another season with limited resources and limited crowds and against the backdrop of the RFL trying to get to 20 teams, from a current pool of 37. |
Hornets have a strange record this season…..they havewon all games against teams below them in the table and lost all games against teams above them. If that continues then they can expect three more losses.
The hornets discussion board is a joke…. on the one hand they continue to say nothing can be presented in the public domain for legal reasons, yet they are slagging of Dale board of directors for what they have (allegedly) done!!!!
Even terms like ‘Rackman’ now being used. While some of this is from the johnny come lately cronies who serve as the mouthpiece of the Hornets chair, some of it is from longstanding supporters who are obviously drunk on the Koolaid being served. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:56 - Jul 20 with 2077 views | HullDale |
From the Hornets board:
"It is so sad that the relationship between Hornets and the football club has deteriorated so badly.There have been many fallout over the last 30 years or so over many issues, without knowing all the facts of these times, it appeared Hornets were the problem with issues over rent Stadium costs etc. Chris Dunphy a Chairman sympathetic to the Hornets cause offered terms of an agreement that suited both clubs. Now Rochdale have a Chairman who wants them out, which is a shame because the work of the Rochdale Hornets Foundation has been exemplary, in developing Ladies and Wheelchair Rugby teams as well as work in schools. Obviously he cannot just bin Hornets as there is a contract in place, so the next best thing is to make life difficult for people working for Hornets. After 30 years Rochdale Football Club suddenly need extra office space, so the Hornets offices and club shop have been summoned by Mr Gauge for his expanding club and Hornets are demoted to a sponsors box, which if course can't be used on match days of either club.
It really is a pathetic way of conducting business and shows Mr Gauge has not got the bottle to tell Hornets that despite Mr Dunphys contract, they are no longer welcome. Probably because he is Chairman of a club that has regularly promoted Football in the Rochdale Community, over as many years as I can remember. Hornets since the arrival of Andy Mazey have progressed greatly in that type of work. So Mr Gauge let's hear your explanation of why would you want to spoil that progress which like your own club's activities benefits the people of Rochdale, if it in the end turns out to be an issue of Hornets not paying their way, or renaging on the terms of the current contract, then that should be made public, if as appears they are merely an inconvenience to your club then that it a very sad endorsement for you as a Chairman.Your predecessors have managed to sort out issues with Hornets sadly you cant."
That to me sounds like Dale can make more money from expanded offices etc (the new entrance decor looks smart) than they do from Hornets... if the terms of the lease that Hornets signed don't include a designated office / shop space, guaranteed capacity numbers etc, then I'd suggest that is an issue for whoever signed the lease rather than the people enforcing the lease. I think I mentioned elsewhere that essentially Dale provide a service and Hornets are the customers... we are within our right to maybe ask for additional payments for additional space / services, in the same way that Hornets as the customer have the right not to 'purchase' the space / service from us.
I admire a lot of the work Hornets are doing in the town and with wheelchair / ladies teams, but the attitude of certain posters here coupled with my suspicions of, and actions by, their chairman, make
me even less likely to want to engage with them. | | | |
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