| Mawson to West Ham 15:11 - Jun 14 with 71716 views | andrew |
Deal close. Sky sports breaking. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 22:32 - Jul 30 with 2388 views | QJumpingJack |
I expect Mawson will be £15m with £5m add-ons depending on Fulham success - winning League Cup/FA Cup/Europa League covering his contract period. | | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 22:35 - Jul 30 with 2364 views | E20Jack |
I can guarantee you it will be survival based additions.
Now that is a real “claim”, if you like, to which you can all get excited over if it turns out not to be the case (which it won’t).
It certainly won’t be made up of trophy wins. [Post edited 30 Jul 2018 22:40]
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| Mawson to West Ham on 23:27 - Jul 30 with 2248 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 22:31 - Jul 30 by Shaky |
OK, let's then say in a sense we were both right, although in a more accurate and real sense I was right and you were wrong by at least 50%. |
Even though a matter of 8 weeks ago you were “assuming” we would sell him for £25m?
You know, the same price that I quoted in that very same month.
Interesting cherry picking there Shakes, not like you.  | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 23:40 - Jul 30 with 2219 views | hobo |
| Mawson to West Ham on 22:32 - Jul 30 by QJumpingJack |
I expect Mawson will be £15m with £5m add-ons depending on Fulham success - winning League Cup/FA Cup/Europa League covering his contract period. |
Nonsense. And in the very unlikely event that was the case, whoever negotiated it should be fired on the spot |  | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:43 - Jul 30 with 2203 views | QJumpingJack |
Bony - when he went to Man City in 2015:
Wilfried Bony will earn a £20,000-a-game bonus on top of his basic £100,000-a-week salary at Manchester City after completing his £25m transfer from Swansea City.
The 26-year-old striker secured the appearance fee after being denied a higher salary by the champions, who will have to pay up to an extra £3m to Swansea in add-ons. The full amount will be due if Bony features in a certain percentage of matches and the club win every domestic honour plus the European Cup. | | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:53 - Jul 30 with 2175 views | LeonWasGod |
| Mawson to West Ham on 21:47 - Jul 30 by bonymine |
As I said above mate YES on a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD and with all things considered equal Alfie IS worth more than £20M, however, I hope that lessons have been learned from last Summer’s window where by holding out for the extra £5M for Siggy until late into the window we ended up with ‘panic signings’ a la Bony .....
OK maybe Alfie is worth £25/30M in today’s market but when the season is just FIVE, YES FIVE DAYS away we may have to accept a lower cash bid in order to get some new signings in over the line which now appears to be the case.
Put yourself in Fulham’s shoes they know the score and that we need the cash to buy so will NEVER bid top dollar (no pun intended) and are in the driving seat in negotiations .... |
Yeah, I’d have thought that’s pretty obvious. It’s highly likely the fee is being influenced by our need to offload and the timing. Doesn’t sound like that bidding war ever started as that would have helped.
And if only Fulham are in for him maybe he’s not as well regarded as some of us think. I’d have thought he could get a contract at an established mid-table side at least, so a bit surprised by it all. |  | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:59 - Jul 30 with 2147 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:43 - Jul 30 by QJumpingJack |
Bony - when he went to Man City in 2015:
Wilfried Bony will earn a £20,000-a-game bonus on top of his basic £100,000-a-week salary at Manchester City after completing his £25m transfer from Swansea City.
The 26-year-old striker secured the appearance fee after being denied a higher salary by the champions, who will have to pay up to an extra £3m to Swansea in add-ons. The full amount will be due if Bony features in a certain percentage of matches and the club win every domestic honour plus the European Cup. |
That's Man City though, the best team in the Premier League. Add-ons are relevant to the likely achievements of the team in question.
A bit different to Fulham. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:04 - Jul 31 with 2036 views | awayjack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:40 - Jul 30 by hobo |
Nonsense. And in the very unlikely event that was the case, whoever negotiated it should be fired on the spot |
That's what Sky are reporting. Seems low for young English capped CB but hey ho it's not our money. |  | | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:07 - Jul 31 with 2022 views | builthjack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 22:35 - Jul 30 by E20Jack |
I can guarantee you it will be survival based additions.
Now that is a real “claim”, if you like, to which you can all get excited over if it turns out not to be the case (which it won’t).
It certainly won’t be made up of trophy wins. [Post edited 30 Jul 2018 22:40]
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Plus appearances, possibly caps. But yes, survival over the next 3 or 4 seasons most likely. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:26 - Jul 31 with 1986 views | Badlands |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:40 - Jul 30 by hobo |
Nonsense. And in the very unlikely event that was the case, whoever negotiated it should be fired on the spot |
£15 million is good money for a limited CB who hasn't improved since he arrived - good with his head and that's about it.
If he wasn't English he'd have been ripped apart by fans last season. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:41 - Jul 31 with 1946 views | Swansea93 |
Currently undergoing a medical. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:46 - Jul 31 with 1919 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:07 - Jul 31 by builthjack |
Plus appearances, possibly caps. But yes, survival over the next 3 or 4 seasons most likely. |
I concur, and this is why this sounds like a reasonably fair deal.
£20 million would not be unreasonable, but the player is injured so £15m now, rising to £20m is he proves his fitness over the next few years.
It is sharing the risk. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 11:13 - Jul 31 with 1882 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 23:27 - Jul 30 by E20Jack |
Even though a matter of 8 weeks ago you were “assuming” we would sell him for £25m?
You know, the same price that I quoted in that very same month.
Interesting cherry picking there Shakes, not like you. |
"Well come on then, stick a value in him. Let’s see who’s closest.
I have said £30m. "
13:17 - May 26 by E20Jack
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"As for my views on Mawson's value I posted then no more than a couple of weeks ago. "
13:41 - May 26 with 419 views Shaky
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"maybe Mawson could generate some sort of bidding action. But I don't see him fetching more than £25m with the best will in the world and £12-15m would not surprise me"
20:02 - May 14 with 7878 views Shaky
You really don't do yourself any favours, attempting to deny reality like this, Dim. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:36 - Jul 31 with 1729 views | E20Jack |
June 5th
Shaky said:
“Let's assume Mawson is sold for £25 million. He was signed in August 2016 on a 4 year contract which means he has 2 years left, for a reported £5.3 million to which I have added 10% for agents fees making his total cost £5.8m.”
Strange assumption to make, dontcha think? | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:46 - Jul 31 with 1682 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:36 - Jul 31 by E20Jack |
June 5th
Shaky said:
“Let's assume Mawson is sold for £25 million. He was signed in August 2016 on a 4 year contract which means he has 2 years left, for a reported £5.3 million to which I have added 10% for agents fees making his total cost £5.8m.”
Strange assumption to make, dontcha think? |
You are really scraping the barrel, Dim.
Here is the post that is taken from in response to a question about how you work out the profit from a player sale on the Sweepstake thread.
Is masochism also a part of your psychological profile, Dim?
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Profit on player sales is what they have been sold for less their value in the books contributing to total player registrations on the balance sheet.
Value on the books is basically the signing cost multiplied by the percentage of the players' contract remaining.
So for example let's assume Mawson is sold for £25 million. He was signed in August 2016 on a 4 year contract which means he has 2 years left, for a reported £5.3 million to which I have added 10% for agents fees making his total cost £5.8m
Therefore the profit would be £25m received less book value of £5.8m x 50% = £22.4m.
Players sold/let go this financial year:
- Gylfi Siggurdsen
- Fernando Llorente
- Modou Barrow
- Franck Tabanou
- Marvin Emnes
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:49 - Jul 31 with 1661 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:46 - Jul 31 by Shaky |
You are really scraping the barrel, Dim.
Here is the post that is taken from in response to a question about how you work out the profit from a player sale on the Sweepstake thread.
Is masochism also a part of your psychological profile, Dim?
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Profit on player sales is what they have been sold for less their value in the books contributing to total player registrations on the balance sheet.
Value on the books is basically the signing cost multiplied by the percentage of the players' contract remaining.
So for example let's assume Mawson is sold for £25 million. He was signed in August 2016 on a 4 year contract which means he has 2 years left, for a reported £5.3 million to which I have added 10% for agents fees making his total cost £5.8m
Therefore the profit would be £25m received less book value of £5.8m x 50% = £22.4m.
Players sold/let go this financial year:
- Gylfi Siggurdsen
- Fernando Llorente
- Modou Barrow
- Franck Tabanou
- Marvin Emnes
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Your point being?
Why didn’t you use the figure of £15m instead of clearly assuming he would go for £25m?
Put the spade down lad. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:53 - Jul 31 with 1641 views | E20Jack |
Now you have the search function down to a fine art where you have just found the thread of you assuming Mawson would be sold for £25m.. any chance you can find me saying he would go for £60m?
Same principle, just change the figure. Should be easy.
Thanks. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:54 - Jul 31 with 1628 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:49 - Jul 31 by E20Jack |
Your point being?
Why didn’t you use the figure of £15m instead of clearly assuming he would go for £25m?
Put the spade down lad. |
So as not to introduce any anchoring bias. Recall it is a competition. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:56 - Jul 31 with 1622 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:53 - Jul 31 by E20Jack |
Now you have the search function down to a fine art where you have just found the thread of you assuming Mawson would be sold for £25m.. any chance you can find me saying he would go for £60m?
Same principle, just change the figure. Should be easy.
Thanks. |
Unfortunately not.
Google Advanced search doesn't work and the hack somebody posted can only retrieve posts back to this May. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:02 - Jul 31 with 1581 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:54 - Jul 31 by Shaky |
So as not to introduce any anchoring bias. Recall it is a competition. |
Anchoring bias is irrelevant if it was simply an example. It is also irrelevant when you have not introduced an anchor  | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:03 - Jul 31 with 1579 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:56 - Jul 31 by Shaky |
Unfortunately not.
Google Advanced search doesn't work and the hack somebody posted can only retrieve posts back to this May. |
Funny that. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:09 - Jul 31 with 1561 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:02 - Jul 31 by E20Jack |
Anchoring bias is irrelevant if it was simply an example. It is also irrelevant when you have not introduced an anchor |
You clearly have no idea what anchoring bias is beyond what you just found in a quick google search. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:11 - Jul 31 with 1544 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:09 - Jul 31 by Shaky |
You clearly have no idea what anchoring bias is beyond what you just found in a quick google search. |
Do you constantly have little plays performing in your head based on whatever fantasy you would like to be true at that point in time?
It certainly seems that way.
I would be fascinated to know for certain how much of the stuff you type, you actually believe. It can’t be more than 10% surely to God? | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:20 - Jul 31 with 1513 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:11 - Jul 31 by E20Jack |
Do you constantly have little plays performing in your head based on whatever fantasy you would like to be true at that point in time?
It certainly seems that way.
I would be fascinated to know for certain how much of the stuff you type, you actually believe. It can’t be more than 10% surely to God? |
No Dim, it is simply that if you don't think an anchoring bias is potentially created by "just" making a suggestion, you have no idea what it is.
That's all | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:24 - Jul 31 with 1488 views | nantywatcher |
You two sound like a couple of old farts arguing for the sake of arguing - give it a rest!!! | | | |
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