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Pompey are near the foot of the table, the Swans are in ninth, but it’s the home teams form at home which is keeping them afloat. Thirteen points from the last possible fifteen is a warning to heed for the Swans. Sold out completely the Jack Army are on the move.







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Pompey v Swans : All your team news & Harry Darling speculation this morning 1st Jan 2025 08:00
Happy New Year to each and every one of you who have religiously supported the Indy this past year, thank you from all of us here. Swansea City visit Portsmouth today for a 3pm kick off at Fratton Park. Early news points towards Franco not being available with a bad dental injury and Jay Fulton more than likely starting the game. 0




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If Swansea City could be any more unimaginative and weak in an away fixture this season it will signal that Luke Williams really hasn’t got the credentials to lead this Swansea team to anything other than complete mediocrity. The very fact he is being linked with West Bromwich Albion (it isn’t a rumour Luke, as you well know) tells us he has already lost heart in this Swansea side, and his reluctance to speak truthfully about it is an insult to Swansea fans. 0










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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 09:40 - Jan 2 with 1008 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 09:34 - Jan 2 by onehunglow

Morning
Christie simply should not be here as is the case with Naughton and indeed Allen.
We are not a retirement home .
A knackered Franco is worth twice what the likes of Fulton are .


I don’t disagree with that. We haven’t been able to afford better players though due to the way this club has been run for a number of years. Hopefully that’s about to change.

He’s brought off to protect himself. Better to miss 10 minutes most games than 2 months through an injury picked up when he’s knackered.

The issue isn’t taking him off, it’s that we’ve got no one anywhere near his quality to replace him.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 09:54 - Jan 2 with 955 viewsRichardO

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 08:16 - Jan 2 by vetchonian

As ever Rich you have hit the hammer on the head.
A good explanation of how things are,I'm amazed after already disappointing performances and results in games when Franco has been absent that fans who have discussed his replacement by Fulton still can't see then problem isn't all down to the coach though he does have some blame.
In fairness his subs yesterday were not different....ie Peart Harris for Fulton not putting him out wide then a further change in shape when Key came on.
We are what we are a mid table squad with a rookie championship manager .


Fine line between a team being mid table, play off candidates or dropping into a relagation battle, Williams had to use the experienced players at the end of last year to stave off the relegation threat, the team needed the older players to balanced the inexperience at this level of some the younger players at this forward to this year a couple of signings, player out on loan because off budget restraints that haven't helped, we have shown we can compete with the best in the league to a degree but we also have seen that we need new players to cover the absence of our first eleven players, missed Franco and Key against Portsmouth, will we be without Cabango against WBA the strength in depth is needed but when you are struggling for quality players you have to keep the game plan simple and not try playing football at a level that the players can't cope with it is wrecking any confidence that the team has tried to build leading to indecision and bad choices resulting in mistakes in the wrong areas of the pitch.
Lack of depth in the squad given the previous owners but lack of direction from the coaches to build the confidence of the team. At least four players are needed to bolster the squad but looking at the absence of injured players it does make you think are our methods to get players up to full fitness good enough.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:02 - Jan 2 with 841 viewsSullutaCreturned

Well it was a nice drive down and back, even considering the weather. It was spoiled somewhat by the bit in the middle, the point of the trip.

What an absolute shitshow that was. Their second goal, we had Darlin, Grimes and Cabango all stood together on the edge of our box, getting in each oithers way, Vigoroux stood on his line...goal. What a massive farce. That's why I don't like Grimes getting in there. Too many players in close quarters in our area and we gift goals.
I also don't see the point of the short pass to Vigoroux from goal kicks, we play it around the back for a bit but then it inevitably ends up passed to Vigoroux to lump it up the pitch, usually under pressure.

Question, why can't Cabango or Darling lump it up the pitch instead of putting our keeper under pressure, no wonder he makes mistakes when he gets so much of the ball with the oppo shutting him down quickly.

More pointless passing around the defence yesterday too. Pointless possession with little or no movement for anyone to pick a pass. When I say pointless possession, I mean the kind that sees us conceding soft goals. Yesterday we had 73% possession yet we lost 4 nil and are lucky it wasn't a couple more.

73%. Think on that. The team with 27% possessiin put 4 goals on us and we managed what, 3 shots on target, they had 6. They had more shots than us over all too.

If it's not pointless possession then what is the point because it's clearly not trying to score goals. You know, those things that win games.

Luke Williams, what does he do to earn his money? When we were so obviously under the cosh after 20 minutes, when it clearly wasn't working, he didn't change anything. We kept doing the same mind numbingly awful, pointless shite up til half time. After half time we had a bit of a go for 15 minutes or so but then we reverted to the awful total dross of the first half.

All Portsmouth had to do was close us down quickly and get the ball into our box. They were quicker in thought and action.

Then after the game we hear Williams has made another silly statement.

I don't know what is going on but if Williams isn't happy then let him talk to WBA, get him moved on. The timing stinks whatwith the transfer window open. I don't know who we'd get to replace him. But honestly, something stinks and it needs to be sorted out.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:21 - Jan 2 with 809 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:02 - Jan 2 by SullutaCreturned

Well it was a nice drive down and back, even considering the weather. It was spoiled somewhat by the bit in the middle, the point of the trip.

What an absolute shitshow that was. Their second goal, we had Darlin, Grimes and Cabango all stood together on the edge of our box, getting in each oithers way, Vigoroux stood on his line...goal. What a massive farce. That's why I don't like Grimes getting in there. Too many players in close quarters in our area and we gift goals.
I also don't see the point of the short pass to Vigoroux from goal kicks, we play it around the back for a bit but then it inevitably ends up passed to Vigoroux to lump it up the pitch, usually under pressure.

Question, why can't Cabango or Darling lump it up the pitch instead of putting our keeper under pressure, no wonder he makes mistakes when he gets so much of the ball with the oppo shutting him down quickly.

More pointless passing around the defence yesterday too. Pointless possession with little or no movement for anyone to pick a pass. When I say pointless possession, I mean the kind that sees us conceding soft goals. Yesterday we had 73% possession yet we lost 4 nil and are lucky it wasn't a couple more.

73%. Think on that. The team with 27% possessiin put 4 goals on us and we managed what, 3 shots on target, they had 6. They had more shots than us over all too.

If it's not pointless possession then what is the point because it's clearly not trying to score goals. You know, those things that win games.

Luke Williams, what does he do to earn his money? When we were so obviously under the cosh after 20 minutes, when it clearly wasn't working, he didn't change anything. We kept doing the same mind numbingly awful, pointless shite up til half time. After half time we had a bit of a go for 15 minutes or so but then we reverted to the awful total dross of the first half.

All Portsmouth had to do was close us down quickly and get the ball into our box. They were quicker in thought and action.

Then after the game we hear Williams has made another silly statement.

I don't know what is going on but if Williams isn't happy then let him talk to WBA, get him moved on. The timing stinks whatwith the transfer window open. I don't know who we'd get to replace him. But honestly, something stinks and it needs to be sorted out.


It’s not the possessions fault. We don’t take our chances.

They had 14 shots to our 12 yesterday. That’s fairly even. We usually have more than the opponents.

First goal yesterday, we tried to vary it and instead of the usual playing out from the back, Vigaroux played an aerial ball to Cullen in the wing. It wasn’t pinpoint, he miscontrolled it, they broke an scored.

Second goal, Darling lamped a clearance down field (which looked the right decision in fairness). It came back as it invariably will when we do that, Tymon lost control and let them in.

The fourth goal was the type where overplaying it at the back cost us. I can understand people criticising possession when we concede like that.

It’s a red herring though. If we took as many of our chances as our opponents do, we’d win far more games.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:51 - Jan 2 with 746 viewsSullutaCreturned

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:21 - Jan 2 by jack247

It’s not the possessions fault. We don’t take our chances.

They had 14 shots to our 12 yesterday. That’s fairly even. We usually have more than the opponents.

First goal yesterday, we tried to vary it and instead of the usual playing out from the back, Vigaroux played an aerial ball to Cullen in the wing. It wasn’t pinpoint, he miscontrolled it, they broke an scored.

Second goal, Darling lamped a clearance down field (which looked the right decision in fairness). It came back as it invariably will when we do that, Tymon lost control and let them in.

The fourth goal was the type where overplaying it at the back cost us. I can understand people criticising possession when we concede like that.

It’s a red herring though. If we took as many of our chances as our opponents do, we’d win far more games.


Sorry but your wrong, they had 27% possession but they had 2 more shots than us and 6 shots on target to our 3, twice as many shots on target.

We reguarly put Vigoroux under pressure, he even ended up taking on an attacker 3 times, and beating him 3 times.

The lumping the ball up the pitch came from passing it around at the back until we got closed down and had no options, back to the keeper it went (usually) for him to clear.

It was slow, pointless possession, we didn't look to move it up the field, we played slow keep ball and it hurt us.

The second goal,Tymon didn't lose control, him and darling were stood close together, Tymon tried to dink a header to Darling and it all went wrong ending up with a goal.

The 4th goal, Grimes tried keeping possession and passed it to the full back who was pressed, lost possession and goal.

When you try and fail to keep possession and it costs goals, shouldn't you learn?

Stood behind that goal yesterday, watching that rubbish and being able to predict so much of it, it was awful.

A mate reckons a Portsmouth fan said we beat ourselves as much as they did.

Finally, in what world is 14 shots to 12 "nearly even" when the possession is so lop sided, we should have had many moire shots than them if the possession game was working. It didn't work.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:57 - Jan 2 with 698 viewsWhiterockin

Possession for possessions sake means not a jot. If you have 100% possession and it's in your defencive third, it's not you that is going to score.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:09 - Jan 2 with 655 viewssons_of_omri

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 16:59 - Jan 1 by max936

Wish I'd watched Cardiff v Ospreys Mrs watched it and said it was a cracker, typical.


It was despite the sending off of James Fender leaving the Ospreys half the game with 14 players they still should have won it. Really shit analysis from the BBC all bar James Hook and Holley - didn’t realise Alex Cuthbert was such a bell end
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:14 - Jan 2 with 643 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:51 - Jan 2 by SullutaCreturned

Sorry but your wrong, they had 27% possession but they had 2 more shots than us and 6 shots on target to our 3, twice as many shots on target.

We reguarly put Vigoroux under pressure, he even ended up taking on an attacker 3 times, and beating him 3 times.

The lumping the ball up the pitch came from passing it around at the back until we got closed down and had no options, back to the keeper it went (usually) for him to clear.

It was slow, pointless possession, we didn't look to move it up the field, we played slow keep ball and it hurt us.

The second goal,Tymon didn't lose control, him and darling were stood close together, Tymon tried to dink a header to Darling and it all went wrong ending up with a goal.

The 4th goal, Grimes tried keeping possession and passed it to the full back who was pressed, lost possession and goal.

When you try and fail to keep possession and it costs goals, shouldn't you learn?

Stood behind that goal yesterday, watching that rubbish and being able to predict so much of it, it was awful.

A mate reckons a Portsmouth fan said we beat ourselves as much as they did.

Finally, in what world is 14 shots to 12 "nearly even" when the possession is so lop sided, we should have had many moire shots than them if the possession game was working. It didn't work.


Yes, but the possession isn’t really the issue. That’s how we play and not everyone likes it, but it’s taking far less of our chances than opponents that’s costing us. Whether we’re having roughly as many shots as them with 50% or 73% of the ball, the fact we’re less clinical with them is what hurts us.

There was slow, laboured possession yesterday, absolutely. We still created 12 chances with it.

Tymon dillied and dallied. He was caught between smashing it, heading it and leaving it for Darling. The point I was making there, was we didn’t play it out from the back, Darling lumped a clearance forward, the ball came straight back and they scored.

The fourth goal, Grimes just played a simple ball to Christie who wasn’t immediately under pressure and had both Grimes and Key as options. He just miscontrolled it.

We had a terrible day whichever way you look at it yesterday.

From what I saw, we conceded two goals by avoiding playing it out from the back, one from playing it out from the back and one from poor marking at a set piece.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:15 - Jan 2 with 644 viewssons_of_omri

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 09:25 - Jan 2 by jack247

There are two separate issues here.

We’ve got 15 or 16 competitive championship players. We don’t have any strikers who are at that level yet, though Bianchini is improving. If any of our first team are unavailable, it weakens us noticeably. I’d be very surprised if any other manager bar one or two right at the bottom has that issue. To be comfortably mid table in that scenario is very impressive, whether people like the style of football or not.

But - he’s made his position untenable over the last week IMO. Presentations to Cabango about what we are trying to build one minute and then openly begging West Brom the next. I’ve said over and over again I’ve got no time for the likes of Whittaker and Obafemi, even though they are very good players, because they treated our club with disdain. Same applies to Williams here. The players surely can’t respect him after that.

Just got to hope this goes through now.


Still you bang on about strikers. Strikers need chances to be created. We can’t create because half the time or more thr ball is being played between the centre backs. All down to the manager NOT Vipotnik or Bianchini. Wake up
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:17 - Jan 2 with 621 viewssons_of_omri

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 17:35 - Jan 1 by jack247

Thing with that, is we’d be playing Sheehan football again, which wasn’t much different to Duffs.

If we’re then going to appoint a footballing manager in the summer, we’re starting another adjustment/consolidation season.

They’ll have contingency plans and if he goes to West Brom, they’ll have a few quid to play with. The problem will come if they appoint someone else and we don’t want him back.


Word on the street is that they want Sheehan . FFS 🤦
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:20 - Jan 2 with 598 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:15 - Jan 2 by sons_of_omri

Still you bang on about strikers. Strikers need chances to be created. We can’t create because half the time or more thr ball is being played between the centre backs. All down to the manager NOT Vipotnik or Bianchini. Wake up


Portsmouth had 14 shots yesterday, we had 12
We had 22 against Luton they had 4
We had 10 against QPR they had 4

Where do you think all these shots are coming from if we aren’t creating chances?
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:27 - Jan 2 with 574 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:17 - Jan 2 by sons_of_omri

Word on the street is that they want Sheehan . FFS 🤦


As in full time or until the end of the season?
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:28 - Jan 2 with 559 viewsWhiterockin

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:27 - Jan 2 by jack247

As in full time or until the end of the season?


Depends what street you are on.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:32 - Jan 2 with 543 viewsSullutaCreturned

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:20 - Jan 2 by jack247

Portsmouth had 14 shots yesterday, we had 12
We had 22 against Luton they had 4
We had 10 against QPR they had 4

Where do you think all these shots are coming from if we aren’t creating chances?


Not all shots are chances mind, a hopeful potshot from 25 yards isn;'t really a chance. That's why they created xG

Portsmouth created more chances than us yesterday with 27% of the ball.

I'd love to see the seasons stats to see how many chances we have actually created, Because, again, not all chances are equal and when Bianchini misses a chance from 6 yards, that is a chance, when darling puts one in the keepers hands from 25 yards, not so much a chance, just a shot.

And I know it's labouring the point but the reason our opponents put away more of their chances is because when we play silly passes in and around our penalty area we present them with good chances whereas the oppo aren't gifting us good chances. They make us work for ours.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:34 - Jan 2 with 529 viewssons_of_omri

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:21 - Jan 2 by jack247

It’s not the possessions fault. We don’t take our chances.

They had 14 shots to our 12 yesterday. That’s fairly even. We usually have more than the opponents.

First goal yesterday, we tried to vary it and instead of the usual playing out from the back, Vigaroux played an aerial ball to Cullen in the wing. It wasn’t pinpoint, he miscontrolled it, they broke an scored.

Second goal, Darling lamped a clearance down field (which looked the right decision in fairness). It came back as it invariably will when we do that, Tymon lost control and let them in.

The fourth goal was the type where overplaying it at the back cost us. I can understand people criticising possession when we concede like that.

It’s a red herring though. If we took as many of our chances as our opponents do, we’d win far more games.


With 73 % possession we should have far more than 12 shots. We had relatively few chances compared to Portsmouth who had 27% of the ball. They squandered far more chances than we did yet they won 4-0.

Our problem is we don’t create half the chances we should because we play the ball in safe areas which don’t hurt the opposition and when we do get the ball forward we play it so damn slowly the defence is set and any chances disappear. We need Grimes and Fulton out of our midfield- make Franco or Darling captain and get some genuine ball players who can get the ball moving forward quickly. I wouldn’t mind Kry in there as he carries the ball so well.

I dread to think the opportunities the club has missed by persevering with Grimes who is a one footed short pass master instead of giving the likes of Fownes and Franco artistic licence to play their game instead of having to play second fiddle to someone with a broken violin.

Please try to understand 247 that the strikers are NOT the problem and never have been .
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:37 - Jan 2 with 500 viewssons_of_omri

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:27 - Jan 2 by jack247

As in full time or until the end of the season?


Don’t know but either way a waste of half a season for a qualified and proven coach to assess properly the deficiencies in the squad.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:47 - Jan 2 with 479 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:34 - Jan 2 by sons_of_omri

With 73 % possession we should have far more than 12 shots. We had relatively few chances compared to Portsmouth who had 27% of the ball. They squandered far more chances than we did yet they won 4-0.

Our problem is we don’t create half the chances we should because we play the ball in safe areas which don’t hurt the opposition and when we do get the ball forward we play it so damn slowly the defence is set and any chances disappear. We need Grimes and Fulton out of our midfield- make Franco or Darling captain and get some genuine ball players who can get the ball moving forward quickly. I wouldn’t mind Kry in there as he carries the ball so well.

I dread to think the opportunities the club has missed by persevering with Grimes who is a one footed short pass master instead of giving the likes of Fownes and Franco artistic licence to play their game instead of having to play second fiddle to someone with a broken violin.

Please try to understand 247 that the strikers are NOT the problem and never have been .
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Whether we should be having more chances with three quarters of the possession is a different argument and it’s a fair one.

What we’re taking about here is often having more or equal chances than the opponents and being far less clinical with them.

The strikers were never the problem until last season. We had underwhelming finishes under Martin. I never blamed that on Piroe.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:49 - Jan 2 with 471 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:37 - Jan 2 by sons_of_omri

Don’t know but either way a waste of half a season for a qualified and proven coach to assess properly the deficiencies in the squad.


Completely agree with that.

If this happens with West Brom and I hope it does, we need a permanent appointment. Not to be starting again in August. We’d be adrift of the playoffs before the next manager knows what his best team is.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:56 - Jan 2 with 445 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:32 - Jan 2 by SullutaCreturned

Not all shots are chances mind, a hopeful potshot from 25 yards isn;'t really a chance. That's why they created xG

Portsmouth created more chances than us yesterday with 27% of the ball.

I'd love to see the seasons stats to see how many chances we have actually created, Because, again, not all chances are equal and when Bianchini misses a chance from 6 yards, that is a chance, when darling puts one in the keepers hands from 25 yards, not so much a chance, just a shot.

And I know it's labouring the point but the reason our opponents put away more of their chances is because when we play silly passes in and around our penalty area we present them with good chances whereas the oppo aren't gifting us good chances. They make us work for ours.


No they aren’t, but that applies to both teams and over the course of half a season, the number of shots is going to roughly correlate with the number of chances created.

How often do we actually have hopeful potshots from 25 yards? Maybe one a game? Other teams do that too.

There’s merit to your last point. The fourth Portsmouth goal was a good example. I’m not saying I want us keeping the ball at all costs no matter how risky it is. Their first two goals came about from us doing the exact opposite.

From memory - Tymon, Bianchini, Ronald and Vipotnik all had half decent chances yesterday. Tymon and Bianchini both should have scored.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 14:48 - Jan 2 with 338 viewsonehunglow

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 12:56 - Jan 2 by jack247

No they aren’t, but that applies to both teams and over the course of half a season, the number of shots is going to roughly correlate with the number of chances created.

How often do we actually have hopeful potshots from 25 yards? Maybe one a game? Other teams do that too.

There’s merit to your last point. The fourth Portsmouth goal was a good example. I’m not saying I want us keeping the ball at all costs no matter how risky it is. Their first two goals came about from us doing the exact opposite.

From memory - Tymon, Bianchini, Ronald and Vipotnik all had half decent chances yesterday. Tymon and Bianchini both should have scored.


The first two goals were gifts
This is basic professionalism
Pompey couldn’t believe their luck
The look on their faces said so

Larry is goal,as Ove suggested ,has regressed and has become hesitant .

Our captain could end this on the field of play especially as he calls all the shots . And he does.

Poll: Christmas. Enjoyable or not

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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:29 - Jan 2 with 290 viewsjack247

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 14:48 - Jan 2 by onehunglow

The first two goals were gifts
This is basic professionalism
Pompey couldn’t believe their luck
The look on their faces said so

Larry is goal,as Ove suggested ,has regressed and has become hesitant .

Our captain could end this on the field of play especially as he calls all the shots . And he does.


All four goals were gifts. The first two started from doing the exact opposite of playing it out from the back, but both could easily have been dealt with after that.

The third was an unmarked header from an unnecessary free kick.

The fourth was absolutely from fannying around at the back. Individual error from Christie who arguably isn’t as good at that as Cabango or Darling.

Even putting the goals aside, the entire performance, except the period between half time and their third smacked of a team who had no faith in their manager.

Grimes was one of our better players. He invariably is. That wasn’t saying a lot yesterday.
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:36 - Jan 2 with 273 viewsonehunglow

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:29 - Jan 2 by jack247

All four goals were gifts. The first two started from doing the exact opposite of playing it out from the back, but both could easily have been dealt with after that.

The third was an unmarked header from an unnecessary free kick.

The fourth was absolutely from fannying around at the back. Individual error from Christie who arguably isn’t as good at that as Cabango or Darling.

Even putting the goals aside, the entire performance, except the period between half time and their third smacked of a team who had no faith in their manager.

Grimes was one of our better players. He invariably is. That wasn’t saying a lot yesterday.


“ better” .
Well,think I will bow out of this right now
I’m boring myself now as well as my poor missus
I cut short a family lunch to watch that crap .
I wasn’t very popular
The players are not with me

As for the poor buggers that went on such a vile day ,I feel for them. Every one of them was insulted .
Captain should control the performances. Good captains do.

Poll: Christmas. Enjoyable or not

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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:39 - Jan 2 with 270 viewsSullutaCreturned

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:29 - Jan 2 by jack247

All four goals were gifts. The first two started from doing the exact opposite of playing it out from the back, but both could easily have been dealt with after that.

The third was an unmarked header from an unnecessary free kick.

The fourth was absolutely from fannying around at the back. Individual error from Christie who arguably isn’t as good at that as Cabango or Darling.

Even putting the goals aside, the entire performance, except the period between half time and their third smacked of a team who had no faith in their manager.

Grimes was one of our better players. He invariably is. That wasn’t saying a lot yesterday.


Grimes dropped us in it at least 3 times yesterday because he kept coming too deep. That they only got one goal from his fannying was more by luck...

How can we drive forward when the man who gets more of the ball than anybody else is so often found between oiur centre backs? If he is our pivot, if he is the supplier, then how does he supply the attck when he's practically in the away end with the fans!
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Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:48 - Jan 2 with 240 viewsonehunglow

Portsmouth v Swansea City : Match day thread Game Day ! on 15:39 - Jan 2 by SullutaCreturned

Grimes dropped us in it at least 3 times yesterday because he kept coming too deep. That they only got one goal from his fannying was more by luck...

How can we drive forward when the man who gets more of the ball than anybody else is so often found between oiur centre backs? If he is our pivot, if he is the supplier, then how does he supply the attck when he's practically in the away end with the fans!


I have no idea as to the love of Grimes and love it is
He is seen by some as an omnipotent presence without whom we cannot play at all.
Fact is ,the fact is IS everywhere kills us stine dead
He gets in defenders way and his final ball to forwards if often garbage
He has a great left foot ,apparently,but does everything to avoid taking a shot at goal . It’s bizarre

Had I been captain at Pompey ,I would have been looking to out them to the sword from the off . To crush them underfoot . They are near the bottom for a reason. They drew with us at our home when on an appalling away run.

I get the impression we thought we could simply turn up. Massive misplaced arrogance .

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Grimes dropped us in it at least 3 times yesterday because he kept coming too deep. That they only got one goal from his fannying was more by luck...

How can we drive forward when the man who gets more of the ball than anybody else is so often found between oiur centre backs? If he is our pivot, if he is the supplier, then how does he supply the attck when he's practically in the away end with the fans!


Said it for years, Leon Britton he certainly isn't. When he plays actually in the midfield he can be excellent, but the fact that no serious approach for him has come in 10yrs tells its own story, all the opposition managers and pundits praise him as this amazing complete midfielder, yet he rarely shows it. He is so frustrating because now and then he shows you just what he's capable of.
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