| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr 22:18 - Dec 17 with 9334 views | Boundy |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:26 - Jan 5 with 798 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:31 - Jan 4 by majorraglan |
Most do but prefer to use Welsh, some have very very poor English (older people and farmer types down west) and have great difficulty using English.
I’m fluent in both languages so have the best of both worlds. There are times when speaking Welsh definitely brings an advantage to the table and others when it’s of no issue whatsoever. As you can tell I’m pro the Welsh language, but I’m not a zealot. [Post edited 4 Jan 20:32]
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If that is the case,then they need English lessons and it’s the language of this island for business and commerce,world wide .
Plenty around
Fir what it’s worth,my fathers lot were from Cardy and spoke nowt but welsh until they moved to Swansea to start a business ,then they stopped speaking welsh to their kids as it held them back,in Swansea .
Swansea was purely English in business matters .
Note how offensive some get over this issue
It’s why many detest the compulsory teaching of welsh | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:30 - Jan 5 with 794 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 19:02 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
Lesen😉 |
Leggere .Italian
Leer ?Spanish
Ler Portuguese
Lire . French | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:08 - Jan 5 with 744 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:08 - Jan 4 by Kilkennyjack |
False narrative.
We want first class public services.
We want a positive, inclusive and vibrant welsh language.
We want both.
Tell you what ….. we could save a lot of money by chasing down Covid fraud, rejoining the EU, stopping involvement in illegal wars, dumping the costly royals and the HoL’s, getting fair funding for Wales from HS2 ….. see , we can have both as politics is really all about choices. |
We would send more money not less if we joined the EU . Our share of the EU budget next year would have been £22 billion if we wwre still member. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:34 - Jan 5 with 719 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:28 - Jan 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Oh, yet another misrepresentation, that's become typical of you.
If you remember what I said, do try, it was about the implementation being rubbish and they wasted money changing signs on roads only for them to be changed back.
If they had planned it and implemented it properly they would only have changed the signs that actually needed cjhanging and saved millions.
We have yet to find out (officially) how mnay lives it actually saved.
To be concise, you do not remember correctly. How many people have died on Welsh roads since they did this change?
PS, I was also all for other measures that would save more lives such as restrictions on learner drivers, more police on the roads and more speed cameras. Lets not let the truth get in the way of an attempted character assassination though, eh  |
Not an attempted character assassination at all, the majority of what you posted in the opening post of the 20mph thread was just plain incorrect.i was sure you said during that long thread that thousands of people were going to be inconvenienced for the sake of saving a few lives, or words to that effect. If I am wrong I will apologise. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:33 - Jan 5 with 670 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 06:44 - Jan 5 by Plankton |
Like those planks still campaigning for the slip bridge to be brought back.
Let it go, only Dalek sounding North Walians and arrogant West Wales farmers speak it and that's just to stealthily slag off people. |
I don't want to be disrespectful, but i have to say your attitude to the welsh language is from another era …. Thankfully ….. say, about 1957 ?
It sounds a bit personal tbh.
Did a handsome welsh speaker take your first girlfriend off you (or boyfriend) ?
Or give you a good smack in the chops during a game of rugby or something ?
You might want to try and join the rest of us in 2025 ?
Be good for you.
If you support our Cymru national team then you will have seen the adult approach to welsh. Its not a threat and its to be enjoyed even if its just a word here and there.
Jo Allen, Rambo, Ben, are all great examples for you. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 13:36 - Jan 5 with 627 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:33 - Jan 5 by Kilkennyjack |
I don't want to be disrespectful, but i have to say your attitude to the welsh language is from another era …. Thankfully ….. say, about 1957 ?
It sounds a bit personal tbh.
Did a handsome welsh speaker take your first girlfriend off you (or boyfriend) ?
Or give you a good smack in the chops during a game of rugby or something ?
You might want to try and join the rest of us in 2025 ?
Be good for you.
If you support our Cymru national team then you will have seen the adult approach to welsh. Its not a threat and its to be enjoyed even if its just a word here and there.
Jo Allen, Rambo, Ben, are all great examples for you. |
English is not a threat either when the the English buy up derelict little houses in Bontwynog and spend thousands making them habitable employing local Labour
Fact
Languages are just that | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:35 - Jan 5 with 594 views | union_jack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:33 - Jan 5 by Kilkennyjack |
I don't want to be disrespectful, but i have to say your attitude to the welsh language is from another era …. Thankfully ….. say, about 1957 ?
It sounds a bit personal tbh.
Did a handsome welsh speaker take your first girlfriend off you (or boyfriend) ?
Or give you a good smack in the chops during a game of rugby or something ?
You might want to try and join the rest of us in 2025 ?
Be good for you.
If you support our Cymru national team then you will have seen the adult approach to welsh. Its not a threat and its to be enjoyed even if its just a word here and there.
Jo Allen, Rambo, Ben, are all great examples for you. |
I think you may find Plankton’s maybe less than diplomatic point more popular than you think or would like. People just don’t say it like that normally. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:16 - Jan 5 with 547 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:08 - Jan 4 by Kilkennyjack |
False narrative.
We want first class public services.
We want a positive, inclusive and vibrant welsh language.
We want both.
Tell you what ….. we could save a lot of money by chasing down Covid fraud, rejoining the EU, stopping involvement in illegal wars, dumping the costly royals and the HoL’s, getting fair funding for Wales from HS2 ….. see , we can have both as politics is really all about choices. |
The only false narrative is yours. We can want both but they cost money and as we don't have enough money for the NHS, schools, police and social care I can clearly state that it's ok to want both but we CAN'T have both, not the way things are right now.
Wales didn't lose money to Covid fraud did it, what was Westminster.
Rejoining the EU won't actually save any money, after the membership fee we could hope there would be an increase in GDP.
Which illegal war are we involved in? If you mean stop sending resources to Ukraine, that's a very bad idea, we cannot let Putin win.
The last 2 points, no argument there from me and I'm really disappointed that Labour have come to power and not righted the HS2 wrongs.
Politics is about choices but those choices have to be paid for. You seem to think because we want something we can just have it all. Clearly we cannot. | | | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:16 - Jan 5 with 545 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 14:35 - Jan 5 by union_jack |
I think you may find Plankton’s maybe less than diplomatic point more popular than you think or would like. People just don’t say it like that normally. |
Note how this thread has progressed | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:43 - Jan 5 with 524 views | union_jack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:16 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Note how this thread has progressed |
Emotive or what? | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:57 - Jan 5 with 513 views | Gwyn737 |
I don’t speak the language but I wish I did. Sign of the times I was in school.
I don’t understand why any proud Welsh person would want to see the language die 🤷🏻 | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:31 - Jan 5 with 502 views | union_jack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:57 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t speak the language but I wish I did. Sign of the times I was in school.
I don’t understand why any proud Welsh person would want to see the language die 🤷🏻 |
Most don’t. They just don’t want to see it artificially respirated at the expense of other services that need funding desperately.
If that means it dies well clearly the interest isn’t there. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:41 - Jan 5 with 482 views | Gwyn737 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:31 - Jan 5 by union_jack |
Most don’t. They just don’t want to see it artificially respirated at the expense of other services that need funding desperately.
If that means it dies well clearly the interest isn’t there. |
I think there is the interest.
It’s always going to be a hard job up against a language that is the most spoken language in the western world. A language that we consume pretty much all our culture in.
I think it’s important enough to deserve a leg up. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:53 - Jan 5 with 467 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:57 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t speak the language but I wish I did. Sign of the times I was in school.
I don’t understand why any proud Welsh person would want to see the language die 🤷🏻 |
Who on the name of the living God is wishing it to die
First,it hasn’t and won’t
Again,utter puerile defence .
This started with name change of a constituency | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:57 - Jan 5 with 461 views | Gwyn737 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:53 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Who on the name of the living God is wishing it to die
First,it hasn’t and won’t
Again,utter puerile defence .
This started with name change of a constituency |
If it doesn’t get promoted, it could well die.
Things like the name change will help so no issue from me. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 19:21 - Jan 5 with 439 views | Boundy |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:57 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t speak the language but I wish I did. Sign of the times I was in school.
I don’t understand why any proud Welsh person would want to see the language die 🤷🏻 |
I don't far from it but to have it thrust now into our everyday life without consent only ,at times, stirs up negative a reaction. This emotion applies to other subjects , the introduction of the 20mph limit for example | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 19:28 - Jan 5 with 410 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:26 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
If that is the case,then they need English lessons and it’s the language of this island for business and commerce,world wide .
Plenty around
Fir what it’s worth,my fathers lot were from Cardy and spoke nowt but welsh until they moved to Swansea to start a business ,then they stopped speaking welsh to their kids as it held them back,in Swansea .
Swansea was purely English in business matters .
Note how offensive some get over this issue
It’s why many detest the compulsory teaching of welsh |
You sound like one of those Victorian’s who introduced the Welsh not to deter children from speaking Welsh in school. We’re in Wales and if people want to then so be it. Plenty of countries around the world have more than 1 language and everything works smoothly. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:13 - Jan 5 with 374 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 19:28 - Jan 5 by majorraglan |
You sound like one of those Victorian’s who introduced the Welsh not to deter children from speaking Welsh in school. We’re in Wales and if people want to then so be it. Plenty of countries around the world have more than 1 language and everything works smoothly. |
If yiure going to have a go and stimulate lifey then at least get your grammar correct .
Possessive pronoun abuse is rampart,I grant you.
For what it’s worth ,many non here sound like the very worst type of language fascist that monoglot ,decent welsh folk detest .
Sadly, anyone having the balls to say this gets the utter shite lifey spouts
A decent debate ruined by puerile posting | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:31 - Jan 5 with 359 views | Plankton |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:33 - Jan 5 by Kilkennyjack |
I don't want to be disrespectful, but i have to say your attitude to the welsh language is from another era …. Thankfully ….. say, about 1957 ?
It sounds a bit personal tbh.
Did a handsome welsh speaker take your first girlfriend off you (or boyfriend) ?
Or give you a good smack in the chops during a game of rugby or something ?
You might want to try and join the rest of us in 2025 ?
Be good for you.
If you support our Cymru national team then you will have seen the adult approach to welsh. Its not a threat and its to be enjoyed even if its just a word here and there.
Jo Allen, Rambo, Ben, are all great examples for you. |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:38 - Jan 5 with 351 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:31 - Jan 5 by Plankton |
Bit |
Mazong really that we have welsh speaking fans that purport to support n anglised city in the English Pyramid system.
I mean , I doubt Swansea City playing Bala Town would get people moist even though the welsh speakers could mingle with the Gogs and slag off the English as well as each other and the difference in dialects.
More welsh speaking in rugby so it s surprising that these people don’t follow welsh rugby and all who sail on her.
It’s also the case that rugby in wales is demonised and seen as a threat ,not dissimilar to the English immigrant seen in such a light
Weird or what
This topic was about a constituency change and the posts show just how the welsh language divides though this will not be admitted ,apart from the likes of me . It’s because people lack basic guts and want to look good on a forum. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:57 - Jan 5 with 323 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:38 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Mazong really that we have welsh speaking fans that purport to support n anglised city in the English Pyramid system.
I mean , I doubt Swansea City playing Bala Town would get people moist even though the welsh speakers could mingle with the Gogs and slag off the English as well as each other and the difference in dialects.
More welsh speaking in rugby so it s surprising that these people don’t follow welsh rugby and all who sail on her.
It’s also the case that rugby in wales is demonised and seen as a threat ,not dissimilar to the English immigrant seen in such a light
Weird or what
This topic was about a constituency change and the posts show just how the welsh language divides though this will not be admitted ,apart from the likes of me . It’s because people lack basic guts and want to look good on a forum. |
Go and have a lay down ffs. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:21 - Jan 6 with 205 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:31 - Jan 5 by Plankton |
Bit |
Ok you are the world’s greatest comedian … what a guy …. Yawn …. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:28 - Jan 6 with 195 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:38 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
Mazong really that we have welsh speaking fans that purport to support n anglised city in the English Pyramid system.
I mean , I doubt Swansea City playing Bala Town would get people moist even though the welsh speakers could mingle with the Gogs and slag off the English as well as each other and the difference in dialects.
More welsh speaking in rugby so it s surprising that these people don’t follow welsh rugby and all who sail on her.
It’s also the case that rugby in wales is demonised and seen as a threat ,not dissimilar to the English immigrant seen in such a light
Weird or what
This topic was about a constituency change and the posts show just how the welsh language divides though this will not be admitted ,apart from the likes of me . It’s because people lack basic guts and want to look good on a forum. |
The English league supports professional football.
If you want a professional team then playing in England was the historic solution.
Its not about language, is it ?
The Cymru Prem is semi-professional apart from the last 10 years with TNS.
If you want a semi-professional team then playing in Wales is now an established option.
Again about money, not language.
I dont know why you have difficulty with these fairly easily understood concepts. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:43 - Jan 6 with 147 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 17:57 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t speak the language but I wish I did. Sign of the times I was in school.
I don’t understand why any proud Welsh person would want to see the language die 🤷🏻 |
It's a sign of the times I was in school too. I had to do Latin and when that stopped they considered I was too behind so no point in doing Welsh.
I don't want the language to die but if there is enough interest it will survive without a leg up.
Schools in Wales are badly in need of funding, we struggle to recruit teachers, building are falling apart, isn't that more worthy of a leg up and that's before we egt to the NHS and saving peoples lives. | | | |
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