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All this Budget Speculation 23:28 - Oct 18 with 12538 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The plan seems to be to raise taxes like IHT and Capital Gains and maybe on Non-Doms etc. whilst changing the rules to borrow more.
There a realistic risk here, if the tax income does not increase as planned, the very rich can work their way around these increases, and if growth is slow then the cost of borrowing increases as bond rates will go up as confidence is lost in the money markets and we will have a slow burn Liz Truss effect.

With all that is happening in the World having some gold makes a lot of sense right now.

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All this Budget Speculation on 12:37 - Jan 7 with 1063 viewsBoundy

Its not getting any better
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/increase-in-welsh-firms-saying-they-will-r

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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All this Budget Speculation on 13:24 - Jan 7 with 1000 viewscontroversial_jack

All this Budget Speculation on 12:37 - Jan 7 by Boundy

Its not getting any better
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/increase-in-welsh-firms-saying-they-will-r


They said that when the minimum wage was introduced, it didn't happen
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:09 - Jan 7 with 946 viewsWhiterockin

Prospects look pretty grim.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/06/record-tax-raid-triggers-mass-jo
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:44 - Jan 7 with 926 viewsBoundy

All this Budget Speculation on 13:24 - Jan 7 by controversial_jack

They said that when the minimum wage was introduced, it didn't happen


Not quite the same is it.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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All this Budget Speculation on 23:28 - Jan 7 with 868 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

About to hit the fan.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-long-term-borrowing-costs-at

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All this Budget Speculation on 23:37 - Jan 7 with 854 viewsmajorraglan

All this Budget Speculation on 16:09 - Jan 7 by Whiterockin

Prospects look pretty grim.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/06/record-tax-raid-triggers-mass-jo


And then we have Next. There’s an article on the BBC about Next raising prices to offset “an unusually high" £73m increase in staff wages and taxes and then proceeding to explain the increases are as a result of changes announced in last years budget.

Anyone with the curiosity or patience to finish reading the article will learn that "Next expects profits to rise by 3.6% to more than £1bn next year."

Are we being taken for a ride by some?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkxlnlne0po
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All this Budget Speculation on 00:50 - Jan 8 with 834 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

All this Budget Speculation on 23:37 - Jan 7 by majorraglan

And then we have Next. There’s an article on the BBC about Next raising prices to offset “an unusually high" £73m increase in staff wages and taxes and then proceeding to explain the increases are as a result of changes announced in last years budget.

Anyone with the curiosity or patience to finish reading the article will learn that "Next expects profits to rise by 3.6% to more than £1bn next year."

Are we being taken for a ride by some?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkxlnlne0po


They will pay £250M in Corporation Tax if they make the numbers. They could make £750 Million net profit on £6 or £7 Billion turnover but that depends on how the economy goes. Profit could be much less and they will need to reinvest some of the £750M.

I would not like to.be in Retail.

They could swallow the NI increase but if they think can operate by increasing prices there's nothing stopping them.

There's no monopoly or obligation here to buy their goods, if people are happy to buy their goods at a given price then that's up to their customers.
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All this Budget Speculation on 07:30 - Jan 8 with 776 viewsAnotherJohn

The yield on UK 30-year gilts went up by four basis points yesterday to 5.22%, exceeding the spike after the Liz Truss fiasco. It is a bit of a mystery why there isn't more of a furore about this, as we are now moving into very dangerous territory. This is because the extra cost of servicing the national debt is now swallowing up the extra money that Rachel Reeves planned to borrow to fund her growth plans. If the extra cost of new borrowing is added to the extra cost of servicing the debt, then Reeves will break her new fiscal rules. The difficult choice she is now facing is between (a) doing that, which would be likely to spook the international markets, (b) raising taxes, or (c) cutting public spending. The big risk is stagflation. If people argue that Truss crashed the economy, I wonder what they think about this?

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Getting worse. Gilt yields up to 5.38% today and pound at lowest rate against US$ for 9 months.
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:11 - Jan 8 with 678 viewsSullutaCreturned

All this Budget Speculation on 07:30 - Jan 8 by AnotherJohn

The yield on UK 30-year gilts went up by four basis points yesterday to 5.22%, exceeding the spike after the Liz Truss fiasco. It is a bit of a mystery why there isn't more of a furore about this, as we are now moving into very dangerous territory. This is because the extra cost of servicing the national debt is now swallowing up the extra money that Rachel Reeves planned to borrow to fund her growth plans. If the extra cost of new borrowing is added to the extra cost of servicing the debt, then Reeves will break her new fiscal rules. The difficult choice she is now facing is between (a) doing that, which would be likely to spook the international markets, (b) raising taxes, or (c) cutting public spending. The big risk is stagflation. If people argue that Truss crashed the economy, I wonder what they think about this?

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Getting worse. Gilt yields up to 5.38% today and pound at lowest rate against US$ for 9 months.
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The scales have well and truly tilted in the wrong direction, Question is will Reeves sit tight and hope things improve or will they take "emergency" measures to try and rebalance the scales.
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:25 - Jan 8 with 668 viewsAnotherJohn

Indeed. Back in 2022 the emergency action was to get rid of Truss and Kwarteng and bring in Sunak and Hunt, which by October 25th resulted in the 30 year gilt yield falling to 3.68%

https://www.ft.com/content/a5758ce9-f8f3-4013-aa97-81ff3db3eaf2

I'm not sure what Starmer and Reeves can do in the present situation.
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:46 - Jan 8 with 652 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

All this Budget Speculation on 16:25 - Jan 8 by AnotherJohn

Indeed. Back in 2022 the emergency action was to get rid of Truss and Kwarteng and bring in Sunak and Hunt, which by October 25th resulted in the 30 year gilt yield falling to 3.68%

https://www.ft.com/content/a5758ce9-f8f3-4013-aa97-81ff3db3eaf2

I'm not sure what Starmer and Reeves can do in the present situation.


To quote Blackadder their resignation and suicide might raise morale a bit. Make a note of it Darling.

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All this Budget Speculation on 18:44 - Jan 8 with 601 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

All this Budget Speculation on 16:11 - Jan 8 by SullutaCreturned

The scales have well and truly tilted in the wrong direction, Question is will Reeves sit tight and hope things improve or will they take "emergency" measures to try and rebalance the scales.


I can't see anything but poor economic performance for the first three months of this year as the budget effects come through. Today's bond sale did not go well, I expect that Reeves will end up having to take some sort of action.
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All this Budget Speculation on 21:07 - Jan 8 with 544 viewsSullutaCreturned

All this Budget Speculation on 16:46 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

To quote Blackadder their resignation and suicide might raise morale a bit. Make a note of it Darling.


No need to resign, cut out the middle man, I'm all for government efficiency savings.
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All this Budget Speculation on 08:52 - Jan 13 with 298 viewsAnotherJohn

30 year gilt yields have just hit 5.528, translating to the highest interest rate on government borrowing since 1998. Some of this is related to a global rise in bond yields influenced by events in the USA, but our current government must also accept a share of the blame. People with mortgages who are not in a fixed rate deal or have a deal that is about to end could find themselves in a pickle.
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All this Budget Speculation on 12:12 - Jan 13 with 250 viewsraynor94

All this financial bad news has left Reeves looking ill, I think she has bitten off more than she can chew with the Chancellor post, it's been a nightmare for her

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All this Budget Speculation on 12:14 - Jan 13 with 248 viewsonehunglow

All this Budget Speculation on 12:12 - Jan 13 by raynor94

All this financial bad news has left Reeves looking ill, I think she has bitten off more than she can chew with the Chancellor post, it's been a nightmare for her


Agreed.
She looks shocking
Her family must be concerned
She won’t laxt the year

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All this Budget Speculation on 18:31 - Jan 13 with 178 viewsAnotherJohn

When the Mirror prints an article like the one at the link you know there is a problem.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/chancellor-under-the-spotlight-over-fiscal
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All this Budget Speculation on 19:41 - Jan 13 with 162 viewsWhiterockin

All this Budget Speculation on 18:31 - Jan 13 by AnotherJohn

When the Mirror prints an article like the one at the link you know there is a problem.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/chancellor-under-the-spotlight-over-fiscal


If Starmer keeps her he won't see the year out.
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All this Budget Speculation on 00:18 - Jan 14 with 99 viewsRobbie

Starmer trying his best to keep a positive vibe on his speeches earlier , journalists and press were asking some leadinq questions on the UK finances but like a good Politician avoided straight answers , veering in towards the greatness of AI and the benefits it brings .

Our lost cause Rach is in China with the begging bowl , trade off will be their help in our IT systems , good call , less public sectors workers and admin needed with their new dream .
Win / win for all parties I doubt .

If she goes take Ange with her as well , a so called Labour activist from a Council House Estate ready to reap the rewards of second home ownership .
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