| Corbyn's Cronies 09:06 - Jul 24 with 7743 views | raynor94 |
7 of them defied the party whip, well done Keir, banned from the party for 6 months |  |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 11:09 - Jul 27 with 844 views | controversial_jack |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 18:46 - Jul 26 by trampie |
Here is a question for you, why did a lot of the Western World green light a Genocide in Gaza ???
After a period of time and not talking about immediately after the Oct 7th attack, it became obvious there was a genocide taking place in Gaza, yet lots of Western countries still backed the country carrying out the genocide, how was that possible ??? |
It's because of past history. The Jewish ppl were persecuted during ww2 as we all know. They were victims of course, but now they have become the persecutors, but that doesn't seem to be getting across to the many who support them.
They also think this started on oct 7th, when the causes have been going on for decades.Gaza, has been occupied, persecuted and oppressed for decades, but they either don't see it or don't want to.
It's also not against the Jewish ppl, but their regime and govt.They do not see the distinction, especially when any opposition to this regime is made. it is then twisted to become anti semitic. It is pure fascism, the very movement that was fought against 80 years ago. It's shocking! |  | | |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 11:41 - Jul 27 with 826 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 18:46 - Jul 26 by trampie |
Here is a question for you, why did a lot of the Western World green light a Genocide in Gaza ???
After a period of time and not talking about immediately after the Oct 7th attack, it became obvious there was a genocide taking place in Gaza, yet lots of Western countries still backed the country carrying out the genocide, how was that possible ??? |
First of all, this talk of genocide is just ridiculous hyperbole. So let’s leave that at the door because it’s simply sensationalist claptrap.
Then let’s look at the UK’s official stance on the conflict as set out by prime ministers and foreign secretary’s to the UN:
“The UK continues to support Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas terrorism as it seeks the return of over 100 hostages who are still held in Gaza. But we are absolutely clear that Israel must be targeted and precise in achieving that goal.”
Seems like a fairly sensible stance. Hamas have to be eradicated. Groups like that are a threat to the region and a bigger threat to the Palestinian people they are pretending to represent.
I wouldn’t put that in the category of “green lighting” anything. |  |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:18 - Jul 27 with 773 views | trampie |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 11:41 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
First of all, this talk of genocide is just ridiculous hyperbole. So let’s leave that at the door because it’s simply sensationalist claptrap.
Then let’s look at the UK’s official stance on the conflict as set out by prime ministers and foreign secretary’s to the UN:
“The UK continues to support Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas terrorism as it seeks the return of over 100 hostages who are still held in Gaza. But we are absolutely clear that Israel must be targeted and precise in achieving that goal.”
Seems like a fairly sensible stance. Hamas have to be eradicated. Groups like that are a threat to the region and a bigger threat to the Palestinian people they are pretending to represent.
I wouldn’t put that in the category of “green lighting” anything. |
It's definitely a genocide about 40,000 Palestinians dead nearly all civilians and most of them are women and children.
The International Criminal Court have arrest warrants out for Israeli leaders including the Prime Minister Netanyahu, one of the accusations is that Israel used starvation as a “method of war”.
As regards Israeli influence among some Western Governments we have a situation in the UK where the UK will now no longer protest against arrest warrants against the accused Israeli leaders, but some British Jewish groups don't like the fact the UK will let the International Criminal Court do it's job if it gets hold of the accused Israeli leaders, these groups have demanded to see the UK prime minister and that the UK supports Israels war crimes, the irony is they are telling the UK Government that UK policy is wrong and needs to be changed in how we treat Israel yet if anyone accuses those groups of putting Israel before the UK they will deem it as anti Semitic, yet they are actively supporting a foreign Government over our own Government and try and get policy changed against the will of the UK people as well. |  |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:40 - Jul 27 with 757 views | onehunglow |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 11:41 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
First of all, this talk of genocide is just ridiculous hyperbole. So let’s leave that at the door because it’s simply sensationalist claptrap.
Then let’s look at the UK’s official stance on the conflict as set out by prime ministers and foreign secretary’s to the UN:
“The UK continues to support Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas terrorism as it seeks the return of over 100 hostages who are still held in Gaza. But we are absolutely clear that Israel must be targeted and precise in achieving that goal.”
Seems like a fairly sensible stance. Hamas have to be eradicated. Groups like that are a threat to the region and a bigger threat to the Palestinian people they are pretending to represent.
I wouldn’t put that in the category of “green lighting” anything. |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:54 - Jul 27 with 737 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:18 - Jul 27 by trampie |
It's definitely a genocide about 40,000 Palestinians dead nearly all civilians and most of them are women and children.
The International Criminal Court have arrest warrants out for Israeli leaders including the Prime Minister Netanyahu, one of the accusations is that Israel used starvation as a “method of war”.
As regards Israeli influence among some Western Governments we have a situation in the UK where the UK will now no longer protest against arrest warrants against the accused Israeli leaders, but some British Jewish groups don't like the fact the UK will let the International Criminal Court do it's job if it gets hold of the accused Israeli leaders, these groups have demanded to see the UK prime minister and that the UK supports Israels war crimes, the irony is they are telling the UK Government that UK policy is wrong and needs to be changed in how we treat Israel yet if anyone accuses those groups of putting Israel before the UK they will deem it as anti Semitic, yet they are actively supporting a foreign Government over our own Government and try and get policy changed against the will of the UK people as well. |
40,000 deaths out of a Palestinian population of over 5 million is a very small proportion. If it were a genocide we should expect the death toll to be in the millions by now. To put it into perspective during the Rwandan genocide 70% of the Tutsi population were slaughtered in a matter of weeks. During the holocaust some countries saw 90% of its Jewish pre war population killed. 60% of the total European population dead. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:55 - Jul 27 with 736 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:40 - Jul 27 by onehunglow |
Someone knocking on the door
Don’t let them in |
I never answer my door. If I’m not expecting someone they can piss off. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:00 - Jul 27 with 714 views | onehunglow |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:55 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I never answer my door. If I’m not expecting someone they can piss off. |
Don’t turn way JWs .
You would slaughter them
My fav are Mormons . Great lads . Natural comics . Listening to them,you feel truly sane in comparison.
They don’t call on me anymore . | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:02 - Jul 27 with 714 views | Dr_Winston |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:54 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
40,000 deaths out of a Palestinian population of over 5 million is a very small proportion. If it were a genocide we should expect the death toll to be in the millions by now. To put it into perspective during the Rwandan genocide 70% of the Tutsi population were slaughtered in a matter of weeks. During the holocaust some countries saw 90% of its Jewish pre war population killed. 60% of the total European population dead. |
Indeed.
It's probably the case that Israel isn't taking enough precautions to avoid civilian casualties (without going into detail as to what exactly constitutes a civilian in Gaza).
You also have to acknowledge that Hamas' don't really give a shite about the Gazan population and their well proven tactic of hiding their control centres within civilian structures such as schools and hospitals (not to mention starting the whole thing) is probably just as culpable for the death toll as anything else. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:18 - Jul 27 with 682 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:02 - Jul 27 by Dr_Winston |
Indeed.
It's probably the case that Israel isn't taking enough precautions to avoid civilian casualties (without going into detail as to what exactly constitutes a civilian in Gaza).
You also have to acknowledge that Hamas' don't really give a shite about the Gazan population and their well proven tactic of hiding their control centres within civilian structures such as schools and hospitals (not to mention starting the whole thing) is probably just as culpable for the death toll as anything else. |
People chuck words such as genocide around like confetti without actually knowing the meaning behind them. More people died in the 8 months of the London blitz than have died in 10 months in Gaza. It’s a horrible thing but people die in a war. In a genocide, everyone dies. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:33 - Jul 27 with 639 views | trampie |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:18 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
People chuck words such as genocide around like confetti without actually knowing the meaning behind them. More people died in the 8 months of the London blitz than have died in 10 months in Gaza. It’s a horrible thing but people die in a war. In a genocide, everyone dies. |
6 million out of a total of 15 million Jewish people died in the holocaust, so you don't think the holocaust was a genocide then ? | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 16:38 - Jul 27 with 601 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:33 - Jul 27 by trampie |
6 million out of a total of 15 million Jewish people died in the holocaust, so you don't think the holocaust was a genocide then ? |
How on Earth did you leap to that conclusion? I already pointed out that in some countries like Poland and Slovakia 90% of Jews were killed. That was definitely a genocide. The Israel/hamas conflict clearly isn’t. I’m not sure how simpler I can explain this… | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 16:41 - Jul 27 with 599 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:00 - Jul 27 by onehunglow |
Don’t turn way JWs .
You would slaughter them
My fav are Mormons . Great lads . Natural comics . Listening to them,you feel truly sane in comparison.
They don’t call on me anymore . |
When I was in the scouts as a teenager we went camping down west wales and on the next pitch to us were a huge group of Mormon girls. Needless to say we were in our element and one of them taught me things I’ve never forgotten. I’ll leave it there but they were all such lovely, happy people. Mormons always seem to be happy in their own skin. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 16:56 - Jul 27 with 572 views | trampie |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 16:38 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
How on Earth did you leap to that conclusion? I already pointed out that in some countries like Poland and Slovakia 90% of Jews were killed. That was definitely a genocide. The Israel/hamas conflict clearly isn’t. I’m not sure how simpler I can explain this… |
You said "In a genocide, everyone dies". but per your figures not everyone dies.
You also said there are 5 million Palestinians, when it's the Gaza strip that is suffering all out war and there is 2 million living there, hence why i said there were 15 million Jewish people during Hitlers time to compare like with like and not your attempt at cherry picking which does not work with me.
You are also trying to introduce some kind of hierarchy of war crime deaths into the debate, 40,000 deaths of mainly civilians is terrible and a war crime per the international criminal court. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 17:30 - Jul 27 with 550 views | controversial_jack |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:54 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
40,000 deaths out of a Palestinian population of over 5 million is a very small proportion. If it were a genocide we should expect the death toll to be in the millions by now. To put it into perspective during the Rwandan genocide 70% of the Tutsi population were slaughtered in a matter of weeks. During the holocaust some countries saw 90% of its Jewish pre war population killed. 60% of the total European population dead. |
Genocide is just mass killings on an industrial scale. 40k qualifies for that. Yes, there have been greater genocides, but this is definitely one | | | |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 12:37 - Jul 28 with 500 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Corbyn’s other friends Hezbollah asking for a good spanking now. Corbyn have any friends left at this rate. There’s always Dianne Abbott to fall back on I suppose. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 12:49 - Jul 28 with 495 views | onehunglow |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 16:41 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
When I was in the scouts as a teenager we went camping down west wales and on the next pitch to us were a huge group of Mormon girls. Needless to say we were in our element and one of them taught me things I’ve never forgotten. I’ll leave it there but they were all such lovely, happy people. Mormons always seem to be happy in their own skin. |
It’s a cracking story regarding Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and their trek to the Salt Lake
The missionaries ,Joe,aren’t allowed any contact with home | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 12:50 - Jul 28 with 495 views | raynor94 |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 12:37 - Jul 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Corbyn’s other friends Hezbollah asking for a good spanking now. Corbyn have any friends left at this rate. There’s always Dianne Abbott to fall back on I suppose. |
At least he'd have a soft landing | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 13:37 - Jul 28 with 472 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 14:18 - Jul 27 by trampie |
It's definitely a genocide about 40,000 Palestinians dead nearly all civilians and most of them are women and children.
The International Criminal Court have arrest warrants out for Israeli leaders including the Prime Minister Netanyahu, one of the accusations is that Israel used starvation as a “method of war”.
As regards Israeli influence among some Western Governments we have a situation in the UK where the UK will now no longer protest against arrest warrants against the accused Israeli leaders, but some British Jewish groups don't like the fact the UK will let the International Criminal Court do it's job if it gets hold of the accused Israeli leaders, these groups have demanded to see the UK prime minister and that the UK supports Israels war crimes, the irony is they are telling the UK Government that UK policy is wrong and needs to be changed in how we treat Israel yet if anyone accuses those groups of putting Israel before the UK they will deem it as anti Semitic, yet they are actively supporting a foreign Government over our own Government and try and get policy changed against the will of the UK people as well. |
genocide
noun
1.
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:
40k out of 5 million, not that large a number. There is an argument for destroying the nation though. Even so, they need rid of Hamas and that is their aim, Hamas meanwhile hide in ciilian buildings, have openly used a human shoeld tactic and so, if there is a genocide happening then Hamas are also complicit. | | | |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 13:37 - Jul 28 with 472 views | KeithHaynes |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 12:37 - Jul 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Corbyn’s other friends Hezbollah asking for a good spanking now. Corbyn have any friends left at this rate. There’s always Dianne Abbott to fall back on I suppose. |
There’s plenty of folks who still support him. |  |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:03 - Jul 28 with 434 views | controversial_jack |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 13:37 - Jul 28 by SullutaCreturned |
genocide
noun
1.
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:
40k out of 5 million, not that large a number. There is an argument for destroying the nation though. Even so, they need rid of Hamas and that is their aim, Hamas meanwhile hide in ciilian buildings, have openly used a human shoeld tactic and so, if there is a genocide happening then Hamas are also complicit. |
For your sensibilities then, I'll call it mass murder instead.
No evidence Hamas are using human shields or hiding in buildings. Where are the bodies of these Hamas fighters?. Btw, these demons hit another school yesterday
Something else too
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/147326 [Post edited 28 Jul 15:06]
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 09:53 - Jul 29 with 346 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 15:03 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
For your sensibilities then, I'll call it mass murder instead.
No evidence Hamas are using human shields or hiding in buildings. Where are the bodies of these Hamas fighters?. Btw, these demons hit another school yesterday
Something else too
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/147326 [Post edited 28 Jul 15:06]
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I’ll agree to call it mass murder as long as you acknowledge the Russians have committed mass murder in Ukraine.
Quid pro quo Clarice. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:13 - Jul 29 with 319 views | controversial_jack |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 09:53 - Jul 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’ll agree to call it mass murder as long as you acknowledge the Russians have committed mass murder in Ukraine.
Quid pro quo Clarice. |
There have been causalities yes, on both sides. I'm not sure it's deliberately targeting civilians as the IDF has been doing | | | |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:23 - Jul 29 with 314 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:13 - Jul 29 by controversial_jack |
There have been causalities yes, on both sides. I'm not sure it's deliberately targeting civilians as the IDF has been doing |
Sounds like genocide to me. | |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:33 - Jul 29 with 309 views | Dr_Winston |
Certainly ethnic cleansing. Displacing the indigenous populations and replacing them with Moscow loyalists is an old Soviet hobby.
It is amusing watching the anti-Semites criticise Israel for apparently doing exactly the same thing they've been defending Putin for since 2022. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:37 - Jul 29 with 306 views | controversial_jack |
| Corbyn's Cronies on 10:33 - Jul 29 by Dr_Winston |
Certainly ethnic cleansing. Displacing the indigenous populations and replacing them with Moscow loyalists is an old Soviet hobby.
It is amusing watching the anti-Semites criticise Israel for apparently doing exactly the same thing they've been defending Putin for since 2022. |
The Ukranian military was persecuting and killing the ethnic Russians and their supporters living in the Donbass since 2014. That's one of the causes of this conflict | | | |
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