| Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 145713 views | Hooparoo |
An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first. |  |
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| Trump on 10:37 - Jan 7 with 2220 views | Dixie_CT |
| Trump on 10:17 - Jan 7 by Antti_Heinola |
Conversely, how will things improve if people don't compare?
the idea that it's 'divisive' to point out the spectacular differences between police responses seems wrong to me. Like, 'well, we better not upset these people any more than we already have.' This was terrorism. In a land where people have been shot by police for things that are less than misdemeanours, the response last night (or lack of it, or slowness of it) absolutely bears strong comparison. How else can we learn?
Surely it's measuring how the law responds to levels of threat and why different actions are taken depending on who is posing a perceived threat? What will improve? The response of law enforcement to similar situations in the future. You'd hope. |
Let’s keep comparing and see how that helps the black children of America today and in the next four years.
What has changed since we started to compare? Seems like we have be doing a lot of that and not actually changing anything. In fact, it seems like society prefers to sit in this debate about what is right and wrong without actually changing anything.
If we need to keep measuring the disproportionate response of the police to Black people, in the UK and the US, then something is wrong. |  | | |
| Trump on 10:45 - Jan 7 with 2194 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Trump on 10:37 - Jan 7 by Dixie_CT |
Let’s keep comparing and see how that helps the black children of America today and in the next four years.
What has changed since we started to compare? Seems like we have be doing a lot of that and not actually changing anything. In fact, it seems like society prefers to sit in this debate about what is right and wrong without actually changing anything.
If we need to keep measuring the disproportionate response of the police to Black people, in the UK and the US, then something is wrong. |
Except that conversation and comparison can lead to change, Dixie. It can awaken realisation, and realisation can lead to action. In my lifetime we've seen that path work in Northern Ireland and South Africa to name two examples of dialogue changing lives and communities for the better.
I wouldn't be as pessimistic as you, though I do get your points. |  |
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| Trump on 10:46 - Jan 7 with 2178 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
I can't believe security was so lacking as it was only White people
That's a bit conspiracist  |  |
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| Trump on 11:00 - Jan 7 with 2150 views | Dixie_CT |
| Trump on 10:45 - Jan 7 by BrianMcCarthy |
Except that conversation and comparison can lead to change, Dixie. It can awaken realisation, and realisation can lead to action. In my lifetime we've seen that path work in Northern Ireland and South Africa to name two examples of dialogue changing lives and communities for the better.
I wouldn't be as pessimistic as you, though I do get your points. |
Haha please forgive me pessimism at this current time. I'm normally an optimist, thought that was a pre-requiste and essential to surviving being a QPR fan!
Oh don't get me wrong, conversation and dialogue will be the only thing to get us through this and I do say 'us' as we are so tied in with the States now it is unhealthy. It's just who is having the convestation, where they are having it i.e. NOT on social media, and what they are talking about. | | | |
| Trump on 11:05 - Jan 7 with 2135 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Trump on 10:46 - Jan 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
I can't believe security was so lacking as it was only White people
That's a bit conspiracist |
Kind of helps when the bloke in charge is the dog whistler for the people involved. |  | | |
| Trump on 11:08 - Jan 7 with 2122 views | Dixie_CT |
| Trump on 10:46 - Jan 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
I can't believe security was so lacking as it was only White people
That's a bit conspiracist |
I would say 'Shock and Awe' tactics and numbers played a part but there was quite public #occupyDC #6th Jan stuff on social media that the police and state should have been aware of and got ready. I would suggest an air of complancy/neglect was in play.
Trump's speech had an impact on escalting the level of reaction by the mob and he should be done for inciting violence. Four deaths? Blood is on his hands.
If 30k people tunred up, White, Black, Green, Muslim, many of them armed and you were massivley down in numbers, would you fire the first shot in defense?
When it did happen inside the building and that woman was killied, I think it woke people up to the seriousness and gravity of the situation. Were they going to fire back and cause a gun fight with the state?? of | | | |
| Trump on 11:23 - Jan 7 with 2055 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Trump on 11:08 - Jan 7 by Dixie_CT |
I would say 'Shock and Awe' tactics and numbers played a part but there was quite public #occupyDC #6th Jan stuff on social media that the police and state should have been aware of and got ready. I would suggest an air of complancy/neglect was in play.
Trump's speech had an impact on escalting the level of reaction by the mob and he should be done for inciting violence. Four deaths? Blood is on his hands.
If 30k people tunred up, White, Black, Green, Muslim, many of them armed and you were massivley down in numbers, would you fire the first shot in defense?
When it did happen inside the building and that woman was killied, I think it woke people up to the seriousness and gravity of the situation. Were they going to fire back and cause a gun fight with the state?? of |
Maybe it's just me but I find it bizarre how easy it was.
But I don't want to upset anyone and them thinking I'm not human
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| Trump on 11:26 - Jan 7 with 2047 views | BklynRanger |
Ridiculous underestimation of the security needed for this group of furious loons. Why that is undoubtedly a combination of the various structural issues described above. But it's also important to remember that these people were attacking the Capitol under the blessing and at the instruction of a sitting president - talk about permission! When has that happened before? You can see a lot of it in the blatant posing, robbing and general who-gives-a-fcukery on display.
On the ground there was a total lack of joined up work by the local forces - I thought the DC mayor sounded far too passive last night even while it was still happening - a lot of detached talk about 'working with partners '. Even for someone watching her words that was weak stuff.
Two more weeks of chaos followed by the creation of a completely divided Republican party with a sizeable radical wing slobbering over a semi-retired Trump's every word. Domestic terrorism won't even cover it, they'll be coming up with new terms. |  | | |
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| Trump on 12:19 - Jan 7 with 1915 views | Juzzie |
| Trump on 10:25 - Jan 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well we will see a massive change now with the Dem's in power and winning on all fronts hmm
I'm in little doubt it would have got worse if Trump had won.
Will it get better under the Dem's? I'm not so sure, power is very much back in the hands of the establishment, the very same people that were rejected for Trump before.
Peace and love is a long way off. |
Been that way for hundreds of years. Not sure why anyone is surprised or expects it to be any different. All this does is drive a wedge further into the populous.
Divide & conquer = job done, irrespective of which ever side of the spectrum they're from. |  | | |
| Trump on 12:24 - Jan 7 with 2999 views | Juzzie |
Seems like huge swathes of America haven't progressed much from this;
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| Trump on 12:30 - Jan 7 with 2965 views | LythamR |
| Trump on 11:23 - Jan 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Maybe it's just me but I find it bizarre how easy it was.
But I don't want to upset anyone and them thinking I'm not human
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I am with you on this one, The security forces supposedly protecting the Capitol might as well have been waving them in
what little credibility Trump had left has gone , you know youve shot your bolt when you get a bollocking from Priti Patel |  | | |
| Trump on 12:43 - Jan 7 with 2861 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Trump on 12:30 - Jan 7 by LythamR |
I am with you on this one, The security forces supposedly protecting the Capitol might as well have been waving them in
what little credibility Trump had left has gone , you know youve shot your bolt when you get a bollocking from Priti Patel |
Well you know they will say it was Trump supporting security letting it happen, and they will all be sacked in a couple of weeks or sooner.
Apart from the one that shot that Woman. | |
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| Trump on 14:12 - Jan 7 with 2831 views | R_from_afar |
| Trump on 10:25 - Jan 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Well we will see a massive change now with the Dem's in power and winning on all fronts hmm
I'm in little doubt it would have got worse if Trump had won.
Will it get better under the Dem's? I'm not so sure, power is very much back in the hands of the establishment, the very same people that were rejected for Trump before.
Peace and love is a long way off. |
The thing is, though, as a billionaire property magnate, whether he likes it or not, Trump *is* the establishment in reality. It's so ironic. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Trump on 14:15 - Jan 7 with 2820 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Thanks for the article, wood. Worrying stuff. | |
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| Trump on 14:21 - Jan 7 with 2799 views | Ranger_Things |
| Trump on 14:15 - Jan 7 by BrianMcCarthy |
Thanks for the article, wood. Worrying stuff. |
I liked Jamiroquai's music but he's lost the plot now. |  | | |
| Trump on 15:08 - Jan 7 with 2730 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Trump on 12:10 - Oct 27 by PlanetHonneywood |
What did the great soothsayer base he’s predictions on?
I have had a successful run on predictions: Trump, Brexit, two UK elections and the changing Tory leadership. Nothing based on analytics I hasten to add, bit down to pure educated hunches.
It’s on this basis that my only prediction for this US election, is that regardless of who wins: there will be blood spilled in America. Its teed up with the loading of the SC; the postmaster general closing election return boxes; voter suppression; galvanising the religious right, for a battle. |
It’s been some time since I lived there, but what I saw meant nothing that has transpired is a surprise to me and the simmering hatred is now coming to the boil.
My only prediction earlier in the thread was blood spilling and I’d be surprised if there wasn’t more blood to come!
However, Trumpet will be gone and with a total Democratic Party government, the next two years until next House election will be vital. Because if America does not retreat from the path it’s on, then the next threat will be a far more calculated operator, who will be buoyed by a religious zeal that will be chilling. A zeal that will want to facilitate the second coming.
Right now: Kamala Harris is the most important person in politics! I’m not convinced that JB will see out the next 4 years (if I were part of his security detail I’d be checking my life assurance policy) because he’s going to be a target.
The cost of COVID-19 will hit their economy and if it trickles down to Main Street, the zealous right will use this, without any thought that aTrumpet played the key role in exacerbating the effects.
These are choppy waters and just because JB is replacing Trumpet does not mean we’re anywhere near out of them. |  |
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| Trump on 15:15 - Jan 7 with 2707 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Trump on 15:08 - Jan 7 by PlanetHonneywood |
It’s been some time since I lived there, but what I saw meant nothing that has transpired is a surprise to me and the simmering hatred is now coming to the boil.
My only prediction earlier in the thread was blood spilling and I’d be surprised if there wasn’t more blood to come!
However, Trumpet will be gone and with a total Democratic Party government, the next two years until next House election will be vital. Because if America does not retreat from the path it’s on, then the next threat will be a far more calculated operator, who will be buoyed by a religious zeal that will be chilling. A zeal that will want to facilitate the second coming.
Right now: Kamala Harris is the most important person in politics! I’m not convinced that JB will see out the next 4 years (if I were part of his security detail I’d be checking my life assurance policy) because he’s going to be a target.
The cost of COVID-19 will hit their economy and if it trickles down to Main Street, the zealous right will use this, without any thought that aTrumpet played the key role in exacerbating the effects.
These are choppy waters and just because JB is replacing Trumpet does not mean we’re anywhere near out of them. |
Well, you've cheered me right up John! | |
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| Trump on 15:34 - Jan 7 with 2660 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Trump on 08:34 - Jan 7 by Watford_Ranger |
I hope Theresa May and other UK politicians feel some regret for fawning over him. |
Not all of them! I certainly remember one exception. |  | | |
| Trump on 17:26 - Jan 7 with 2557 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Trump on 15:15 - Jan 7 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, you've cheered me right up John! |
Don’t start me on Covid being a mere sniffle compared to the looming Level 5 (Covid is a L2) pandemic, which will be an avian based virus that won’t f..k around.
Think on that those who tuck into a KFC! | |
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| Trump on 18:20 - Jan 7 with 2465 views | eastside_r |
I am starting a sweepstake on which country Trump will nuke in the last 12 days of his presidency.
My money is on something random like Belgium or Vanuatu (because it sounds like it comes from Star Trek.) |  | | |
| Trump on 19:16 - Jan 7 with 2363 views | JamesB1979 |
Great speech by Biden (bit long maybe). Shame he’s so old. | | | |
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