| C4 Tory Leadership debate 18:32 - Jun 16 with 17408 views | bluey_the_blue |
"Six men - and it is all men".
Oh dear.
Each candidate's schooling mentioned.
It's a bear pit as predicted. |  | | |  |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 13:56 - Jun 17 with 1442 views | sherpajacob |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 13:30 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
True, but the real underlying issue is he still believes he can get May's deal through parliament. His tactic is an ineffectual threat.
Given it's been voted down how many times now, he's literally on another planet.
Anyone lookimg to get a deal shouldn't look at what Parliament has voted down but what Parliament has shown agreement for and right now it's only the Brady amendment that matches that criteria. |
The Brady amendment, isn't that the one that says the solution to the Irish border issue is unspecified "alternative arrangements"
How will that negotiation go?
UK, "Monsieur Barnier, we would like to replace the backstop with alternative arrangements"
M Barnier, "what alternative arrangements do you have in mind?"
UK, " We don't know"
It's up there with Dave's unloseable keys pitch to Dragons den on the royle family. That is genuinely the intellectual level the debate is taking place on. |  |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 14:16 - Jun 17 with 1419 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 13:55 - Jun 17 by WarwickHunt |
He’s not “literally” on another planet, you daft twà t. |
Says the literacy policeman who failed to notice a missing full stop. | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 14:18 - Jun 17 with 1417 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 13:56 - Jun 17 by sherpajacob |
The Brady amendment, isn't that the one that says the solution to the Irish border issue is unspecified "alternative arrangements"
How will that negotiation go?
UK, "Monsieur Barnier, we would like to replace the backstop with alternative arrangements"
M Barnier, "what alternative arrangements do you have in mind?"
UK, " We don't know"
It's up there with Dave's unloseable keys pitch to Dragons den on the royle family. That is genuinely the intellectual level the debate is taking place on. |
EU are reportedly already looking at potential technological solutions.
Like it or not, that's the ONLY "solution" Parliament have backed.
You could equally pitch Parliament to EU as follows...
UK "Ok, we don't want May's deal so let's get it sorted"
M Barnier "Ok what do you want?"
UK "Dunno, but we'll remain in perpetual limbo" | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 14:21 - Jun 17 with 1411 views | Highjack |
It’s not the Irish border any more. It’s the EU border. |  |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 15:19 - Jun 17 with 1361 views | WarwickHunt |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 14:16 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
Says the literacy policeman who failed to notice a missing full stop. |
Pray for me.
Come back when you’ve twigged the difference between its and it’s. |  | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 15:56 - Jun 17 with 1350 views | exiledclaseboy |
Ah the Brady amendment. The one with the “alternative arrangements” that no one can specify because, oh yes, they don’t exist. |  |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 15:59 - Jun 17 with 1342 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 14:21 - Jun 17 by Highjack |
It’s not the Irish border any more. It’s the EU border. |
It’s not at the moment but it will be if the Uk leaves. That’s kind of the whole problem. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:43 - Jun 17 with 1302 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 15:56 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
Ah the Brady amendment. The one with the “alternative arrangements” that no one can specify because, oh yes, they don’t exist. |
It's the only thing parliament has said it wants...
I'm sure minds both in UK and EU are looking into alternative arrangements as we speak. | | | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:46 - Jun 17 with 1298 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:43 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
It's the only thing parliament has said it wants...
I'm sure minds both in UK and EU are looking into alternative arrangements as we speak. |
They have been since all this started mun. There’s a reason we still have the backstop.
And I’m sure I don’t need to point out the pointlessness of the only thing parliament voted for being the only thing it can’t have on account of it not existing. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:51 - Jun 17 with 1292 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:46 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
They have been since all this started mun. There’s a reason we still have the backstop.
And I’m sure I don’t need to point out the pointlessness of the only thing parliament voted for being the only thing it can’t have on account of it not existing. |
We have the backstop as it's the simplest thing EU wanted.
If mankind gave up on innovation because something hasn't been implemented already, the whole world would look like Swansea... | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:56 - Jun 17 with 1289 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:51 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
We have the backstop as it's the simplest thing EU wanted.
If mankind gave up on innovation because something hasn't been implemented already, the whole world would look like Swansea... |
We have the backstop because it’s currently the only solution. Don’t you think that both the EU and the UK would have eagerly grasped an alternative and put all this nonsense to bed if there was an alternative solution? | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:02 - Jun 17 with 1282 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:56 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
We have the backstop because it’s currently the only solution. Don’t you think that both the EU and the UK would have eagerly grasped an alternative and put all this nonsense to bed if there was an alternative solution? |
The backstop is the simplest solution from EU's perspective. That's the sole reason it's there unless you wish to attribute malice to EU. | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:07 - Jun 17 with 1279 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:02 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
The backstop is the simplest solution from EU's perspective. That's the sole reason it's there unless you wish to attribute malice to EU. |
It’s the only solution. That’s why it’s there. Jesus, Bluey. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:10 - Jun 17 with 1273 views | bluey_the_blue |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:07 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
It’s the only solution. That’s why it’s there. Jesus, Bluey. |
Yet over six months ago, political declaration had both sides looking into technology to replace backdrop.
Time, effort, money. That's why EU want the absolute simplest solution. | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:16 - Jun 17 with 1261 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:10 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
Yet over six months ago, political declaration had both sides looking into technology to replace backdrop.
Time, effort, money. That's why EU want the absolute simplest solution. |
Yes, the political declaration pledges to look at future alternatives. The UK decided it had to leave the EU now. Hence the backstop as the only current and viable arrangement. You want to leave the EU now, backstop it is. Simple fact. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:21 - Jun 17 with 1251 views | londonlisa2001 |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:10 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
Yet over six months ago, political declaration had both sides looking into technology to replace backdrop.
Time, effort, money. That's why EU want the absolute simplest solution. |
The backstop isn’t a solution. It’s what is kept in place until a solution is found as the alternative is a breach of our previously agreed international treaties.
I realise these things don’t matter anymore. | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:29 - Jun 17 with 1237 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:21 - Jun 17 by londonlisa2001 |
The backstop isn’t a solution. It’s what is kept in place until a solution is found as the alternative is a breach of our previously agreed international treaties.
I realise these things don’t matter anymore. |
Nah it’s the EU being lazy. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:36 - Jun 17 with 1232 views | sherpajacob |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 16:43 - Jun 17 by bluey_the_blue |
It's the only thing parliament has said it wants...
I'm sure minds both in UK and EU are looking into alternative arrangements as we speak. |
The UK wants to leave, There is currently no technology that allows the UK to leave, including leaving SM and CU without breaking GFA.
Uk is confident such technology will exist soon.
Therefore logical solution is,that UK leaves now , but maintains regulatory alignment until these , soon to be in place, solutions are available.
What possible name could we call this solution.? [Post edited 17 Jun 2019 17:38]
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:39 - Jun 17 with 1222 views | londonlisa2001 |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:29 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
Nah it’s the EU being lazy. |
Brexiteers - “we have to control our borders”
Also Brexiteers - “how dare the EU want to control their borders”
Brexiteers - “we can give £350m a week to our NHS’
Also Brexiteers - ‘the NHS is sh*t and it’ll be a lot better if we let the Americans have access to it’.
Brexiteers - ‘we will be able to negotiate far better trade deals if we’re on our own’
Also Brexiteers ‘our negotiators are utter sh*t and that’s why we have such a bad deal from the EU’
Brexiteers - ‘the only thing that matters is the sovereignty of our parliament’
Also Brexiteers - ‘parliament should be suspended to allow a f*ckwit dictator to force through a no deal brexit against their will’.
Brexiteers - ‘we’ll have the best deal ever because German car manufacturers are desperate for our business’
Also Brexiteers - ‘we always said we wanted to leave without a deal’.
Just don’t call them stupid. | | | |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:39 - Jun 17 with 1222 views | sherpajacob |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:29 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
Nah it’s the EU being lazy. |
It was the UK s suggestion. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:42 - Jun 17 with 1212 views | exiledclaseboy |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:39 - Jun 17 by sherpajacob |
It was the UK s suggestion. |
Tell Bluey. I can’t help him any further. Maybe you’ll have more luck. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:47 - Jun 17 with 1201 views | sherpajacob |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 17:42 - Jun 17 by exiledclaseboy |
Tell Bluey. I can’t help him any further. Maybe you’ll have more luck. |
A Tory solution to a Tory created problem not going through because it keeps being voted down by right wing Tories and their swivel eyed loony mates from Ulster.
Yeah, Bluey will accept all that. | |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 18:02 - Jun 17 with 1181 views | Muteswan |
| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 09:28 - Jun 17 by Pegojack |
It was a joke, mate. Well, an attempt at one. |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 18:29 - Jun 17 with 1154 views | BrynCartwright |
I missed the first televised debate because I had better things to do like iron my socks, but will watch the Boris one for a laugh, but imagine how much better it would be with a few Facebook type filters accidentally turned on...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48663289
What a hoot. |  |
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| C4 Tory Leadership debate on 18:52 - Jun 17 with 1133 views | exiledclaseboy |
Lidington backs Stewart. He might scrape through the next round after all. | |
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