| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) 13:15 - Mar 25 with 12496 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:47 - Mar 26 with 703 views | Swanseajill |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:38 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I would quite happily ask all the above questions to the face of whoever they should be directed to if given the opportunity. I am not 'hiding on a messageboard' like you keep saying. [Post edited 26 Mar 2014 16:40]
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Funny we never had those questions asked at the AGM,.
Anyone can go ( you can join on the night if you so wish) I guess you were washing your hair that night.
Yet another missed opportunity Dwight..... |  | | |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:50 - Mar 26 with 691 views | Darran |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:47 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I have never been spotty. I am thankful to have not suffered from acne when many others my age did.
Regarding me having a lot to say, judging from the sampling of our fans via this poll, it appears many others have a lo to say too, but for whatever reasons they do not want to make public their opinions. I would guess it is probably due to fear of being persecuted by the usual posters on here. |
Outvoted is the word you're looking for I think. |  |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:52 - Mar 26 with 687 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:50 - Mar 26 by Darran |
Outvoted is the word you're looking for I think. |
Before this thread was made I am sure most expected 'No' to win by a landslide, but it has not. This is a positive step in our long road to the truth.
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:53 - Mar 26 with 683 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:47 - Mar 26 by Swanseajill |
Funny we never had those questions asked at the AGM,.
Anyone can go ( you can join on the night if you so wish) I guess you were washing your hair that night.
Yet another missed opportunity Dwight..... |
Where and when is the next one? | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:55 - Mar 26 with 677 views | Swanseajill |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:52 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Before this thread was made I am sure most expected 'No' to win by a landslide, but it has not. This is a positive step in our long road to the truth.
#UnitedWeStand |
Sorry to say, you're a very long road from the truth..... | | | |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:27 - Mar 26 with 662 views | Jackistentialist |
Obvious troll is obvious. |  | | |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:36 - Mar 26 with 653 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:27 - Mar 26 by Jackistentialist |
Obvious troll is obvious. |
If you were a consistent reader of this forum from January onwards, you would know I am not a troll and this is my honest opinion. If I was trolling then I would deservedly be banned by now. Your contribution to this thread is not of the high standard this thread has so far produced. Please do not post again here unless you plan on posting a constructive message. Thank you. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:47 - Mar 26 with 646 views | IAN05 |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:36 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
If you were a consistent reader of this forum from January onwards, you would know I am not a troll and this is my honest opinion. If I was trolling then I would deservedly be banned by now. Your contribution to this thread is not of the high standard this thread has so far produced. Please do not post again here unless you plan on posting a constructive message. Thank you. |
Problem is that 70 odd people out of an attendance of 20,000 every game is not going to get you any kind of motion. Particularly when only 28 out of those people agree with you.
I don't expect anyone to give long statements about decisions made. Would I like them ? Of course, on some of the points but then I would love to know the ins and outs of many things in life, but I don't necessarily have the right to do so.
Instead, I will listen at the fans forum and accept the word of the person elected to act on behalf of the members. |  | | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 17:57 - Mar 26 with 636 views | Oldjack |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 16:42 - Mar 26 by Darran |
You've got a lot to say for a spotty kid mind. |
At least we can believe what he says unlike you Tea Bag ,if you said it was raining we'd have to outside too take a look  |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:32 - Mar 26 with 615 views | 1jack |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 13:15 - Mar 25 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season condemning the actions the board have taken this season in almost every key decision they have had to make and demand answers as to why they have acted in such immature and quite bizarre ways they have.
You may disagree with some of the questions I think should be addressed, if so, please tell me why, do not just click no and leave, or call me names and leave. This is a very important topic and one I am sure Phil and the other head sheep will be quick to try and swipe away.
We all have our own ideas and suspicions as to why certain things were done / weren't done, but we have never recieved an official answer regarding most of the decisions. For example, we deserve to know;
1. Why we failed to strenghthen in January knowing we were struggling and heading downwards to the bottom end of the table
2. Why we have wasted large sums of money on bringing in Ngog and Emnes when they offer absolutely nothing
3. Why we they waited until the window ended to sack Laudrup
4. Why Laudrup was sacked when they had no clue who to replace him with
5. Why they gambled our clubs huge future revenues on a player with ZERO managerial experience and his assistant (Curt) who also has ZERO managerial experience
6. Why a huge level of transparency has developed between the board and the fans, even on minor matters such as why Michu was out injured longer than anticipated
7. Why many of our DIRECTORS have the self dicipline of ten year old children, spilling important and probably confidential information to newspapers such as Van Zweeden spilling anything Dutch related (Koeman asking about the job), or Dineen being worked into a temper by 14 year old kids on Twitter and saying things someone of his position shouldn't.
8. Why, with our FOURTH season in this league fast approaching, haven't we hired somebody capable of helping expand our revenues etc to their potential. Instances such as the Summer one where sponsors pulled out last minute leaving us in a mess are embarrassing. I respect Huw and co for what they have done, but they are not the men to run a business approaching turning over £100m a year. I have no problem with Huw overseeing each department, he is the chairman, but he shouldn't be running each one himself when he has little to zero experience doing so. |
Not having a go, just what I think. Some of the questions do need to be asked, whether we need to be told the answers is another thing.
1. Why we failed to strenghthen in January knowing we were struggling and heading downwards to the bottom end of the table
I believe it is common knowledge that in January you pay well over the odds for players and we had injured players to come back.
2. Why we have wasted large sums of money on bringing in Ngog and Emnes when they offer absolutely nothing
I don't believe we spent large sums of money on those two, but you are right they have offered bugger all.
3. Why we they waited until the window ended to sack Laudrup
Only the board know why, but I would expect the relationship between ml and the board just got worse due to the lack of transfers. There were rumours that Laudrup couldn't be bothered, we will probably never know. Is it any of our business?
4. Why Laudrup was sacked when they had no clue who to replace him with
As above really. I don't believe we have no clue, just waiting until season ends.
5. Why they gambled our clubs huge future revenues on a player with ZERO managerial experience and his assistant (Curt) who also has ZERO managerial experience
Do they believe those two can keep us up? Did they think Laudrup could keep us up? They had to do what they thought best for the club.
6. Why a huge level of transparency has developed between the board and the fans, even on minor matters such as why Michu was out injured longer than anticipated
Silly question really, if an injury takes longer than expected to heal then so be it.
7. Why many of our DIRECTORS have the self dicipline of ten year old children, spilling important and probably confidential information to newspapers such as Van Zweeden spilling anything Dutch related (Koeman asking about the job), or Dineen being worked into a temper by 14 year old kids on Twitter and saying things someone of his position shouldn't.
That does need to sorted now.
8. Why, with our FOURTH season in this league fast approaching, haven't we hired somebody capable of helping expand our revenues etc to their potential. Instances such as the Summer one where sponsors pulled out last minute leaving us in a mess are embarrassing. I respect Huw and co for what they have done, but they are not the men to run a business approaching turning over £100m a year. I have no problem with Huw overseeing each department, he is the chairman, but he shouldn't be running each one himself when he has little to zero experience doing so.
He does need help, no doubt. Are there others there helping him? There must be surely, I don't know. we definitely need some marketing and pr people there. |  | | |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:40 - Mar 26 with 605 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:32 - Mar 26 by 1jack |
Not having a go, just what I think. Some of the questions do need to be asked, whether we need to be told the answers is another thing.
1. Why we failed to strenghthen in January knowing we were struggling and heading downwards to the bottom end of the table
I believe it is common knowledge that in January you pay well over the odds for players and we had injured players to come back.
2. Why we have wasted large sums of money on bringing in Ngog and Emnes when they offer absolutely nothing
I don't believe we spent large sums of money on those two, but you are right they have offered bugger all.
3. Why we they waited until the window ended to sack Laudrup
Only the board know why, but I would expect the relationship between ml and the board just got worse due to the lack of transfers. There were rumours that Laudrup couldn't be bothered, we will probably never know. Is it any of our business?
4. Why Laudrup was sacked when they had no clue who to replace him with
As above really. I don't believe we have no clue, just waiting until season ends.
5. Why they gambled our clubs huge future revenues on a player with ZERO managerial experience and his assistant (Curt) who also has ZERO managerial experience
Do they believe those two can keep us up? Did they think Laudrup could keep us up? They had to do what they thought best for the club.
6. Why a huge level of transparency has developed between the board and the fans, even on minor matters such as why Michu was out injured longer than anticipated
Silly question really, if an injury takes longer than expected to heal then so be it.
7. Why many of our DIRECTORS have the self dicipline of ten year old children, spilling important and probably confidential information to newspapers such as Van Zweeden spilling anything Dutch related (Koeman asking about the job), or Dineen being worked into a temper by 14 year old kids on Twitter and saying things someone of his position shouldn't.
That does need to sorted now.
8. Why, with our FOURTH season in this league fast approaching, haven't we hired somebody capable of helping expand our revenues etc to their potential. Instances such as the Summer one where sponsors pulled out last minute leaving us in a mess are embarrassing. I respect Huw and co for what they have done, but they are not the men to run a business approaching turning over £100m a year. I have no problem with Huw overseeing each department, he is the chairman, but he shouldn't be running each one himself when he has little to zero experience doing so.
He does need help, no doubt. Are there others there helping him? There must be surely, I don't know. we definitely need some marketing and pr people there. |
Thank you for your response. Some of my potential questions are maybe less important than others, but some really need to be addressed ASAP for the good of our club. I don't see how people are happy to sit back and watch our club be run the way it is without even questioning why certain areas are not being improved. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:48 - Mar 26 with 598 views | monmouth |
As 1Jack says, I've no problems with asking questions (although some of these would need to be phrased in a more mature way....not a dig, they just would), but where has this assumption come from that we seem to have a 'right' to be told the answers? Maybe, just maybe the issues underlying these questions were considered as part of a proper corporate decision by the board of the private company that is SCFC? There is absolutely no obligation to divulge those discussions, nor open up the decisions to third parties which the members of the trust are in this instance. The Board is there to make the decision, the trust has a member ofthe Board that under normal company policy is bound by collective responsibility and confidentiality.
Someone else might be able to help with the constitutional arrangements regarding what the procedures are for the trust directors mandate and his accountability in terms of what he can and can't discuss with the membership, but I presume that if the trust members are unhappy, they can vote to remove and replace the trust board or trust director. If you're unhappy Dwight, join the trust and put yourself up for election. Otherwise maybe just have a rethink about what 'answers' you might be entitled to hear. Then again, you're an alter ego aren't you? It's an interesting thread and an interesting poll, so just be honest and stop pi$$ing about. It's getting wearing. |  |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:06 - Mar 26 with 583 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:48 - Mar 26 by monmouth |
As 1Jack says, I've no problems with asking questions (although some of these would need to be phrased in a more mature way....not a dig, they just would), but where has this assumption come from that we seem to have a 'right' to be told the answers? Maybe, just maybe the issues underlying these questions were considered as part of a proper corporate decision by the board of the private company that is SCFC? There is absolutely no obligation to divulge those discussions, nor open up the decisions to third parties which the members of the trust are in this instance. The Board is there to make the decision, the trust has a member ofthe Board that under normal company policy is bound by collective responsibility and confidentiality.
Someone else might be able to help with the constitutional arrangements regarding what the procedures are for the trust directors mandate and his accountability in terms of what he can and can't discuss with the membership, but I presume that if the trust members are unhappy, they can vote to remove and replace the trust board or trust director. If you're unhappy Dwight, join the trust and put yourself up for election. Otherwise maybe just have a rethink about what 'answers' you might be entitled to hear. Then again, you're an alter ego aren't you? It's an interesting thread and an interesting poll, so just be honest and stop pi$$ing about. It's getting wearing. |
Such a shame. You ruined that post with your final three sentences. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:12 - Mar 26 with 576 views | dgt73 |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 18:48 - Mar 26 by monmouth |
As 1Jack says, I've no problems with asking questions (although some of these would need to be phrased in a more mature way....not a dig, they just would), but where has this assumption come from that we seem to have a 'right' to be told the answers? Maybe, just maybe the issues underlying these questions were considered as part of a proper corporate decision by the board of the private company that is SCFC? There is absolutely no obligation to divulge those discussions, nor open up the decisions to third parties which the members of the trust are in this instance. The Board is there to make the decision, the trust has a member ofthe Board that under normal company policy is bound by collective responsibility and confidentiality.
Someone else might be able to help with the constitutional arrangements regarding what the procedures are for the trust directors mandate and his accountability in terms of what he can and can't discuss with the membership, but I presume that if the trust members are unhappy, they can vote to remove and replace the trust board or trust director. If you're unhappy Dwight, join the trust and put yourself up for election. Otherwise maybe just have a rethink about what 'answers' you might be entitled to hear. Then again, you're an alter ego aren't you? It's an interesting thread and an interesting poll, so just be honest and stop pi$$ing about. It's getting wearing. |
That's a great post. Dwight is very naive and doesn't have any understanding on the way a board of directors run a private business. |  |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:17 - Mar 26 with 573 views | monmouth |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:06 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Such a shame. You ruined that post with your final three sentences. |
Ok, I'll buy it. Some random, based in manchester suddenly is all over a message board like a rash, with a specific agenda and an inflammatory user name. Definitely not a rather pathetic planned attempt to generate dissenting posts. How could it be?
As you were then. Join the trust. Stand for election. Put up or shut up. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:20 - Mar 26 with 569 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:17 - Mar 26 by monmouth |
Ok, I'll buy it. Some random, based in manchester suddenly is all over a message board like a rash, with a specific agenda and an inflammatory user name. Definitely not a rather pathetic planned attempt to generate dissenting posts. How could it be?
As you were then. Join the trust. Stand for election. Put up or shut up. |
How anyone can find the username DwightYorkeSuperstar inflammatory is concerning.
When are the next Trust elections? | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:27 - Mar 26 with 557 views | monmouth |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:20 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How anyone can find the username DwightYorkeSuperstar inflammatory is concerning.
When are the next Trust elections? |
You don't seriously think I'm going to engage in conversation as if you're a bona fide poster do you? I'm not buttoned up the back. On you go. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:27 - Mar 26 with 557 views | dgt73 |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:20 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How anyone can find the username DwightYorkeSuperstar inflammatory is concerning.
When are the next Trust elections? |
So you are not in the trust, but you want the trust to do your dirty work. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:29 - Mar 26 with 552 views | dgt73 |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:27 - Mar 26 by monmouth |
You don't seriously think I'm going to engage in conversation as if you're a bona fide poster do you? I'm not buttoned up the back. On you go. |
Aye, the funny thing is he thinks he's fooled everyone. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:32 - Mar 26 with 549 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:29 - Mar 26 by dgt73 |
Aye, the funny thing is he thinks he's fooled everyone. |
The only people on this forum who I have fooled are the ones who ate up the very very small breadcrumbs I left on this forum over a period of 3 months regarding a certain topic. I am not going to reveal that as I still think you are completley unaware of what it is. It's certainly amusing watching you, Pencoed and a few others fret over it though.
Everything I have posted relating to Swansea City is 100% my truthful opinion. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:34 - Mar 26 with 544 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:27 - Mar 26 by monmouth |
You don't seriously think I'm going to engage in conversation as if you're a bona fide poster do you? I'm not buttoned up the back. On you go. |
You just did, five posts previously, and numerous other times over the past few days, weeks and months. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:38 - Mar 26 with 539 views | dgt73 |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:32 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
The only people on this forum who I have fooled are the ones who ate up the very very small breadcrumbs I left on this forum over a period of 3 months regarding a certain topic. I am not going to reveal that as I still think you are completley unaware of what it is. It's certainly amusing watching you, Pencoed and a few others fret over it though.
Everything I have posted relating to Swansea City is 100% my truthful opinion. |
You've been rumbled. | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:42 - Mar 26 with 529 views | Darran |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:32 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
The only people on this forum who I have fooled are the ones who ate up the very very small breadcrumbs I left on this forum over a period of 3 months regarding a certain topic. I am not going to reveal that as I still think you are completley unaware of what it is. It's certainly amusing watching you, Pencoed and a few others fret over it though.
Everything I have posted relating to Swansea City is 100% my truthful opinion. |
This one.
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/97808/what-(realistic)-p | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 20:11 - Mar 26 with 498 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
What about it? | |
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| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 20:33 - Mar 26 with 476 views | Phil_S |
| Should The Trust make a statement at the end of the season... (read first post) on 19:20 - Mar 26 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
How anyone can find the username DwightYorkeSuperstar inflammatory is concerning.
When are the next Trust elections? |
Nomimnations are usually around May with the election itself around June.
To stand you need to be a paid up member of the Trust for a minimum of twelve months. To stand for one of the key positions on the Trust (Chairman, Treasurer, Supporter Director) you need to be an elected board member for 12 months
So in short as you are not a member (as you state I am happy to check) then you would need to join for next season, stand for election in summer 2015 and you could stand for election to be Supporter Director in 2016. However, the role of the Supporter Director is a two year term and Huw was elected back in that role in 2013 for a two year term. He would therefore be for re-election in 2015 and (for he or whoever took the role in 2015) then 2017. |  | | |
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