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All of a sudden positivity returns, the impossible may well be possible and Steve Cooper continues to defy the odds. Sadly Phil didn’t.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers EFL Championship Saturday April 17th 2021 Kick off 12.30pm Liberty Stadium
Match Officials KEITH from STROUD Jonathan Hunt and Sam Lewis Fourth Official: Joshua Smith
The last time we saw Keith from Stroud at the Liberty was for the 3-1 defeat to Bristol City where the swans committed more individual errors than in any game this season.
Is it on the TV ? Only via Swans TV and whatever Wycombe and their three fans watch games on.
Wycombe manager Gareth Ainsworth, loves hair and likes to be different.
The stats for prats Swans record v Wycombe Games won: 7 Games drawn: 2 Games lost: 6
Last game was at the Adams family park where the attendance looked like the Covid lockdown had been stopped. It was a 2-0 win for the swans but shoulda been a lot more.
Big day for Phil Unfortunately for followers of royalty and similar things HRH Phil will be planted on this day, hence the earlier kick off time. Phil wasn't the most popular chap in the royal family, he had slightly old fashioned ideas, luckily he never once switched to a 422, and always played with three up front. We hope he has a fairly trouble free journey.
Phil, we are not sure if he is alive or dead here, but it’s D day Saturday
Timmy Mallet that well known kids presenter from generations gone by visited the Adams family stadium this week. He’s mad is Timmy, look at him being whacky, you don’t have to be mad to work here, but it helps.
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi, Ryan Manning; Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Conor Hourihane; Connor Roberts, Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Korey Smith, Wayne Routledge, Morgan Whittaker, Liam Cullen, Yan Dhanda, Joel Latibeaudiere, Jake Bidwell, Ben Cabango.
Wycombe Wanderers: David Stockdale, Jack Grimmer, Joe Jacobson (captain), Anthony Stewart, Uche Ikpeazu, Curtis Thompson, Fred Onyedinma, Dennis Adeniran, Jason McCarthy, Admiral Muskwe, Garath McCleary.
Substitutes: Ryan Allsop, Giles Phillips, Adebayo Akinfenwa, Alex Samuel, Jordan Obita, David Wheeler, Daryl Horgan, Anis Mehmeti, Matthew Bloomfield.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 16:30 - Apr 17 by ploppy
It doesn't matter what team you pick - if your pass completion is 64% you're going to struggle. The team that Cooper picked today was plenty good enough to beat WW on paper. Ayew going off was a blow - and bringing on Routs in his place was a mistake. You could tell from the off that we weren't "at it". Balls played up to Lowe and Routs were just bouncing off and we were losing possession. Hourihane was awful.
I think the dilemma Cooper had was that Routs couldn't play 3 games in 8 days so had to be rested (except he wasn't in the end - which was odd). Roberts did well when he came on against Sheff Wed, so needed to play. But Cooper didn't want to revert to a back 5 so just shoe-horned Roberts in.
Agree with the rest though.
Ayew went off and it soon showed how much we rely on him. Our passing was not just poor, it was pedestrian too. Wycombe worked harder than us and that's not on, no prmotion chasing team should be outworked.
As we've said plenty of times, Hourihane is fine when we're on top but Wycombe put us under pressure and they were very physical too, not a tactic we deal well with.
Credit ti Cooper for making 3 quick subs and it changed the game but even so, for 75 minuteswe were quite poor. We need a higher level of performance, we need the consistency from earlier in the season. We'll make it into the play offs but unless we pick up our levels we won't go any further than the semi's.
We've been poor at putting more than two passes together for much of the season with Ayew playing nearly every minute. He should have been dropped months ago, him going off early is no excuse for the rest of the team continuing to do poorly against a decent League One side.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 17:17 - Apr 17 with 1293 views
The question has to be why destroy a winning team and revert back to a team that lost 4 in a row and even worse play more players out of position. Was it inate over caution? Change for Changes sake? Reverting to his favourite players even though the other choices were better? Everybody on here predicted this would be a tough physical game against a desperate team chasing every point. So why play Hooly who is exactly what the team doesn't need in that situation?
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 17:21 - Apr 17 with 1277 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 16:19 - Apr 17 by Dr_Parnassus
Our pass completion was 77%, same as it was in the last game and above our season average of 73.4%
We did play more long balls in this one though, which was due to chasing the game late by a couple of goals. 80 in this game, as opposed to our season per match average of 64.9 (but keeper long balls are included in this).
We had 62% possession, way above our season average of 50.2%.
14 shots, 8 on target which will be among our best conversion rate of shots attempted to on target (when shooting 10+ or more). Our season average is 10.2 shots and 3.6 on target.
460 passes which is also a touch above our season average 416.8.
All in all this was nowhere near some of the awful performances of late. Frustrating result though.
But there is a massive white elephant in the room here in Brisbane
The team we played against have the worst stats in the league bar none. Every single team they play enjoy glittering stats.
And this is why it's important to comment on this game when it's fresh in the memory and not bring up data from games 6 months ago.
Also, there were long balls throughout. Can remember screaming at Bennett and Guehi in the first 20 mins.
33 long balls from our back 4 today 26 v Millwall (25% less) 22 v Sheff Weds (50% less)
And the worst thing of all..... this was against Wycombe Wanderers!!!
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 17:37 - Apr 17 with 1251 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 16:30 - Apr 17 by ploppy
It doesn't matter what team you pick - if your pass completion is 64% you're going to struggle. The team that Cooper picked today was plenty good enough to beat WW on paper. Ayew going off was a blow - and bringing on Routs in his place was a mistake. You could tell from the off that we weren't "at it". Balls played up to Lowe and Routs were just bouncing off and we were losing possession. Hourihane was awful.
I think the dilemma Cooper had was that Routs couldn't play 3 games in 8 days so had to be rested (except he wasn't in the end - which was odd). Roberts did well when he came on against Sheff Wed, so needed to play. But Cooper didn't want to revert to a back 5 so just shoe-horned Roberts in.
Agree with the rest though.
Don't think it had anything to do with Routs' fitness, he saw Roberts' cameo and thought he’d ply like that all game. Instead he was neither defender nor attacker and effectively unbalanced the side.
We are still in the chase for automatic promotion, we have to win our remaining 4 games to achieve it, with Watford still having to play Norwich and Brentford before they play us in the last game of the season it is far from impossible. Also Brentford have to play Bournemouth away which will be no easy game.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 18:25 - Apr 17 with 1176 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 17:37 - Apr 17 by Badlands
Don't think it had anything to do with Routs' fitness, he saw Roberts' cameo and thought he’d ply like that all game. Instead he was neither defender nor attacker and effectively unbalanced the side.
Maybe, but it amounts to the same thing in the end. He wanted to play Roberts but didn't quite know what to do with him.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 19:45 - Apr 17 with 1070 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 18:13 - Apr 17 by lifelong
We are still in the chase for automatic promotion, we have to win our remaining 4 games to achieve it, with Watford still having to play Norwich and Brentford before they play us in the last game of the season it is far from impossible. Also Brentford have to play Bournemouth away which will be no easy game.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 15:57 - Apr 17 by Badlands
Commented before kick off, Cooper had picked a team not to lose rather than to win. A lot of praise for Wycombe is just an excuse for how bad we were. At one point Curtis mentioned just 64% pass completion - given how many safe touches there were in defence that figure is relegation level. Wycombe were decent at closing down but not great. And, they should have had a penalty in the fist half and created the only scoring chance down to our lack of midfield and imbalanced defence. Bennett saved some blushes but the defence was poor. Where was Roberts supposed to be today. Why was Grimes barely mentioned, how slow is Hourihane and why can’t Lowe control the ball. We gained a point through sheer panic and a bit of desire from two or three players.
I'd have bet a fair wedge on Roberts getting at least one of his 3 chances and probably 2, still frustrated on how he didn't and he probably is to in fairness. Any way its another point gained and onto Wednesday.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 14:33 - Apr 17 by 34dfgdf54
Not good enough unfortunately and despite Watford losing I think that was a must win.
Brilliant return to action for Cullen
That’s a big positive.
Weird day. It’s obviously two points dropped, but at the same time, the team we are chasing dropped three.
Brave header, he’s probably our best finisher and suits the position that’s been the elephant in the room all season. Have to admit I like an Ayew-Routledge-Lowe front three, but with Routledge and to an extent Ayews adaptability, Cullen could easily come on for any of them if we’re chasing the game.
Ok we didn’t win, but that could still turn out to be a big goal for us.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 21:45 - Apr 17 with 980 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 21:19 - Apr 17 by jack247
That’s a big positive.
Weird day. It’s obviously two points dropped, but at the same time, the team we are chasing dropped three.
Brave header, he’s probably our best finisher and suits the position that’s been the elephant in the room all season. Have to admit I like an Ayew-Routledge-Lowe front three, but with Routledge and to an extent Ayews adaptability, Cullen could easily come on for any of them if we’re chasing the game.
Ok we didn’t win, but that could still turn out to be a big goal for us.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 17:21 - Apr 17 by 9MilesHigh
But there is a massive white elephant in the room here in Brisbane
The team we played against have the worst stats in the league bar none. Every single team they play enjoy glittering stats.
And this is why it's important to comment on this game when it's fresh in the memory and not bring up data from games 6 months ago.
Also, there were long balls throughout. Can remember screaming at Bennett and Guehi in the first 20 mins.
33 long balls from our back 4 today 26 v Millwall (25% less) 22 v Sheff Weds (50% less)
And the worst thing of all..... this was against Wycombe Wanderers!!!
Yes because everyone tends to play well against them. That’s not a white elephant, it’s a fact.
Saying we only got 64% pass completion of whatever was claimed, doesn’t become a fact just because they are the worst team in the league. We had 77% pass completion, same as our “new approach” in the last game, that doesn’t change.
There are long balls throughout in all games, they don’t just come at the end. However there is always more when chasing a game, and especially late on in that instance.
I told you last week, every game is different, every match has its own challenges. You are going to be exhausted and chasing your tail if every loss you claim a distinct change of approach and then when we win claim another distinct change of approach... while we perform the same amount of passes, create the same amount of chances, have the same amount of ball etc etc
I don’t buy it, I will always side with common sense and not reactive short termism. Be that in Brisbane or Brynamman.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 15:32 - Apr 17 by Fireboy2
Damn shame Jasper, if we hadnt been arrogant and disrespectful towards wycombe and had attacked front the start instead of 60 mins we would have comfortably won the game.
Hey ho its done now and as you say cullen is back and looking good, id start him on weds.
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We were not arrogant or disrespectful Wycombe played better than their league position.
We were well under par as we were against Bournemouth Preston and Birmingham even against Cardiff we were wasteful.
Sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 00:44 - Apr 18 by Dr_Parnassus
Yes because everyone tends to play well against them. That’s not a white elephant, it’s a fact.
Saying we only got 64% pass completion of whatever was claimed, doesn’t become a fact just because they are the worst team in the league. We had 77% pass completion, same as our “new approach” in the last game, that doesn’t change.
There are long balls throughout in all games, they don’t just come at the end. However there is always more when chasing a game, and especially late on in that instance.
I told you last week, every game is different, every match has its own challenges. You are going to be exhausted and chasing your tail if every loss you claim a distinct change of approach and then when we win claim another distinct change of approach... while we perform the same amount of passes, create the same amount of chances, have the same amount of ball etc etc
I don’t buy it, I will always side with common sense and not reactive short termism. Be that in Brisbane or Brynamman.
This guy doesn't buy it because he can't grasp it
That's a massive difference.
But his latest efforts are bewildering to say the least.
He quotes stats from the whole game but he does realise Cooper was forced to change it does he?
Did he not even watch the game?
From minute 20 to half time we were shocking, probably even before minute 20.
If he really wants to get a grasp of football it's that period he should be looking at in isolation.
And not after 53 minutes when Cooper was forced into panic mode chucking on more attacking players.
That's what we wanted in the first place FFS.
You know, against the bottom of the league and a team that concedes possession to every team it plays.
We wanted to have a go at them
We should have had a go at them.
Some fans can stick up for Cooper all they like but he got that massively wrong.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:34 - Apr 18 with 714 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:34 - Apr 18 by thornabyswan
Yes the performance level was down agree on that. Bit I don't think it was down to complacency. Our form has been inconsistent for a while.
But saying that was still a big improvement on Preston and Brum.
Roberts missed 3 Hourihane fizzed one just wide Routeledge had 1 cleared off the line.
Could of had a pen for the push on Manning at the end.
Could of easily scored 3 or 4 but so could Wycombe.
All very true mate, if one had gone in it could have been a different result, still think we started very slow and I think its because we were as you say complacent and because we took them too lightly.
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:45 - Apr 18 with 700 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:34 - Apr 18 by thornabyswan
Yes the performance level was down agree on that. Bit I don't think it was down to complacency. Our form has been inconsistent for a while.
But saying that was still a big improvement on Preston and Brum.
Roberts missed 3 Hourihane fizzed one just wide Routeledge had 1 cleared off the line.
Could of had a pen for the push on Manning at the end.
Could of easily scored 3 or 4 but so could Wycombe.
We allowed them a foothold in the game
We 'lost' the game (points in the last 25 minutes of the first half.
It was so obvious to so many we needed to do something to change what we were seeing.
But Cooper didn't and we all paid the price.
Any idiot quoting stats from the game as a whole is just embarrassing themselves
Would anyone in their right mind argue the 2 games v Millwall and Wednesday were 'not' a different approach and game plan? As Jay called us, 'a real attacking threat' in those 2 games.
Would anyone be so deceitful?
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Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:46 - Apr 18 with 696 views
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:09 - Apr 18 by 9MilesHigh
This guy doesn't buy it because he can't grasp it
That's a massive difference.
But his latest efforts are bewildering to say the least.
He quotes stats from the whole game but he does realise Cooper was forced to change it does he?
Did he not even watch the game?
From minute 20 to half time we were shocking, probably even before minute 20.
If he really wants to get a grasp of football it's that period he should be looking at in isolation.
And not after 53 minutes when Cooper was forced into panic mode chucking on more attacking players.
That's what we wanted in the first place FFS.
You know, against the bottom of the league and a team that concedes possession to every team it plays.
We wanted to have a go at them
We should have had a go at them.
Some fans can stick up for Cooper all they like but he got that massively wrong.
I am afraid your relentless verbiage has no affect on me, I see right through it.
Your thoughts are too short term, you view things in 20 minute sections, its lunacy. As I taught you last week, every single game is going to be different regardless of mythical approach. Each one has different challenges.
When we win you say Cooper listened elsewhere, when we lose then it's all his fault because he changed approach. As I said, you are going to be exhausted come the end of the season, forum fatigue with all these changes of approach to berate.
Who is we? I absolutely would not have wanted Whittaker, Routledge, Cullen, Lowe, Dhanda all on from the start.
People will stick up for Cooper because it is clear in certain sections he cannot win, he is doomed with them whatever he does. He has got us to 3rd and those that have backed him have been proven correct to do so.
You won't admit it due to whatever various vendettas (I can't keep up) you have going on, but the fact we are still within a realistic shout of autos with 4 games left is a stunning achievement and that is a direct reflection on the players and management team. It's that simple.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:34 - Apr 18 by thornabyswan
Yes the performance level was down agree on that. Bit I don't think it was down to complacency. Our form has been inconsistent for a while.
But saying that was still a big improvement on Preston and Brum.
Roberts missed 3 Hourihane fizzed one just wide Routeledge had 1 cleared off the line.
Could of had a pen for the push on Manning at the end.
Could of easily scored 3 or 4 but so could Wycombe.
Correct, this is the Championship. Form is always up and down, anyone can draw with or beat anyone on their day, and they do.. constantly. The key is long term, not 20 minute periods.
Anyone who says this performance was anywhere near as bad as the matches you mention are barking. We had more possession, more chances, almost double the passes - yet conceded 2 long range strikes in a 5 minute period, that's football.
Law of averages say that doesn't happen often, hence we find ourselves 3rd. The way some speak of games is as if there is blame for absolutely every result other than a win and if they are ironed out then we win 46 out of 46.
They are people, not robots. Form and results reflect that, the key is to perform as consistently as you can for as long as you can, that's what we have and continue to do this year.
It isn't the first time we haven't beaten the bottom club and it won't be the last, not by a long chalk, regardless of manager.
[Post edited 18 Apr 2021 10:58]
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Swansea City v Wycombe Wanderers : Matchday Thread TEAMS on 10:46 - Apr 18 by Dr_Parnassus
I am afraid your relentless verbiage has no affect on me, I see right through it.
Your thoughts are too short term, you view things in 20 minute sections, its lunacy. As I taught you last week, every single game is going to be different regardless of mythical approach. Each one has different challenges.
When we win you say Cooper listened elsewhere, when we lose then it's all his fault because he changed approach. As I said, you are going to be exhausted come the end of the season, forum fatigue with all these changes of approach to berate.
Who is we? I absolutely would not have wanted Whittaker, Routledge, Cullen, Lowe, Dhanda all on from the start.
People will stick up for Cooper because it is clear in certain sections he cannot win, he is doomed with them whatever he does. He has got us to 3rd and those that have backed him have been proven correct to do so.
You won't admit it due to whatever various vendettas (I can't keep up) you have going on, but the fact we are still within a realistic shout of autos with 4 games left is a stunning achievement and that is a direct reflection on the players and management team. It's that simple.
Unfortunately, a whole lot of noise with zero substance
If the approach was so typical of any Cooper game from before why did he have to rip it up completely after half time and when we were 2 goals down?
Does anyone remember having to do that in the 2 previous games?
And who would want all those attacking players on in one go.... This guy is punching in the dark now
But how about a more attacking flavour?
Especially when you bear in mind the XI he picked were pretty much the same XI that had become so ineffective as an attacking unit in the weeks before, except his big plan was to play Roberts further forward.
What's that people say about seeing them in training??
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