| Should we lose today's match deliberately? 10:26 - Jan 5 with 5461 views | Jokeren1943 |
Consider we have played 10 matchs more then most Premier League teams all ready. Our squad is among the smallest. We have insanely many injuryed players , should Laudrup lose today's match on purpose (when you consider the matchs against Napoli, and so close we are on the bottom three)?
Lose on purpose means using, Taylor, Amat, Pozuelo, Lamah, Vázquez etc.
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:25 - Jan 5 with 975 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:14 - Jan 5 by PureRockFury |
Christ on a f*cking bike. (that'll be a 'no'). I don't understand this attitude where people are scared of playing football matches in case something bad might happen like an injury or god forbid, we might win...It's cynicism about football taken to 'just go an find something else to do with your time' levels. Same goes for the 'please don't play Bony today' brigade.
Do we really have an 'insane' injury problem anyway?
We can put out the following team:
Tremmel, Rangel, Chico, Ash, Davies, Canas, De Guzman, Shelvey, Routledge, Lamah, Bony.
That's not far off full-strength. Dyer and Michu are weeks, not months away from return and the club will bring in players this month as well. Of course, as we still have the likes of Pozuelo, Taylor, Amat and Tiendalli available and Shelvey in particular needing a rest, he'll no doubt make a few changes, but I don't buy into this idea we need to put the kids out - we've not got another game for 7 days FFS. They're footballers, this is what they do, play football, it's not an inconvenience. |
I think Shelvey may be rested. Looked knackered against Citeh |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:26 - Jan 5 with 972 views | perchrockjack |
NAH there are both too clever. Jobs agrees with me in general anyway.
See how threads become personal quickly.
Not nice is it.
Has Andrew answered my question anyway. Im off out now friend |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:27 - Jan 5 with 973 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:26 - Jan 5 by perchrockjack |
NAH there are both too clever. Jobs agrees with me in general anyway.
See how threads become personal quickly.
Not nice is it.
Has Andrew answered my question anyway. Im off out now friend |
I did indeed answer your question. Ask your nurse to show you. |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:33 - Jan 5 with 953 views | swancity |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:14 - Jan 5 by PureRockFury |
Christ on a f*cking bike. (that'll be a 'no'). I don't understand this attitude where people are scared of playing football matches in case something bad might happen like an injury or god forbid, we might win...It's cynicism about football taken to 'just go an find something else to do with your time' levels. Same goes for the 'please don't play Bony today' brigade.
Do we really have an 'insane' injury problem anyway?
We can put out the following team:
Tremmel, Rangel, Chico, Ash, Davies, Canas, De Guzman, Shelvey, Routledge, Lamah, Bony.
That's not far off full-strength. Dyer and Michu are weeks, not months away from return and the club will bring in players this month as well. Of course, as we still have the likes of Pozuelo, Taylor, Amat and Tiendalli available and Shelvey in particular needing a rest, he'll no doubt make a few changes, but I don't buy into this idea we need to put the kids out - we've not got another game for 7 days FFS. They're footballers, this is what they do, play football, it's not an inconvenience. |
Well said and especially when that game of football is against one of the biggest powers in world football on their patch in the fa cup
Taking things for granted me thinks. It's only when we get back to playing clubs like Hartlepool that some will appreciate what's happening now, on reflection. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:46 - Jan 5 with 933 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:33 - Jan 5 by swancity |
Well said and especially when that game of football is against one of the biggest powers in world football on their patch in the fa cup
Taking things for granted me thinks. It's only when we get back to playing clubs like Hartlepool that some will appreciate what's happening now, on reflection. |
Correct. If we get relegated (perish the thought ) and end up in League one again there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth by those who failed to realise in just how good a time we're enjoying right now. Some people should be made to watch the Football league show just to remind them what it's like in the swamp | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:53 - Jan 5 with 924 views | monmouth |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:13 - Jan 5 by Darran |
I wouldn't be devastated if we lost today and won next week though. |
This is what's nagging at me to be honest. The probability of winning twice in two weeks at OT is probably close to zero, but I do think we have it in us to do it once. I wish the league game had come first.
But, of course we must go out and try and win both, but I think an 'upset' is more likely in the first game than the second, especially if we have to show our full hand to do it.
I'd join you, if it were theoretically negotiable, in not being absolutely gutted in swapping a defeat today for a win next week though. If we weren't in a big Europa knock out tie and had a few more points, my view would be different. It'll be interesting to see what Come on Davie Moyes makes of it. He really has to win something so may go balls out in all the cups. |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:21 - Jan 5 with 892 views | Lord_Bony |
If ever we was in a relegation battle I m sure the powers that be would take their foot off the pedal on this one and prioritise matches.
But until then we re a competitive football club and definitely should go for it no questions asked,hell we might even win why not....it s what their getting paid for innit? |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:48 - Jan 5 with 874 views | PureRockFury |
The draw for the 4th round is at 2pm, that might affect how some feel about today's game. If the winners play Cardiff at home or a £££ fixture like Arsenal away then there may be a bit less of the 'deliberately lose' mentality. If it's Hull away or something along those lines, well... |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:51 - Jan 5 with 872 views | Jackfath |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:48 - Jan 5 by PureRockFury |
The draw for the 4th round is at 2pm, that might affect how some feel about today's game. If the winners play Cardiff at home or a £££ fixture like Arsenal away then there may be a bit less of the 'deliberately lose' mentality. If it's Hull away or something along those lines, well... |
I think the OP is perhaps the single most stupid thing I ever read on here. And that is saying something. |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:52 - Jan 5 with 872 views | Neath_Jack |
Another example of Premier League fans.
This attitude stinks. |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:53 - Jan 5 with 866 views | Jackfath |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:52 - Jan 5 by Neath_Jack |
Another example of Premier League fans.
This attitude stinks. |
Foreign johnny come lately Swans fans.
As soon as ML goes, this "fan" will be off too. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:56 - Jan 5 with 860 views | Neath_Jack |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:53 - Jan 5 by Jackfath |
Foreign johnny come lately Swans fans.
As soon as ML goes, this "fan" will be off too. |
Aye, and there's plenty of "homegrown" ones around too. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:58 - Jan 5 with 852 views | Jackfath |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 12:56 - Jan 5 by Neath_Jack |
Aye, and there's plenty of "homegrown" ones around too. |
They do my tiny little head in. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 13:09 - Jan 5 with 845 views | GrandPrix |
Whoever thinks we should loose a game or drop out of competitions on purpose may aswell give up supporting the Swans and sport in general.
Competitions are there to win and whats the point of being a football fan if it upsets you so much that you think we should pick and choose when to loose, just because you think it might benefit us in other areas.
A good cup run could boost confidence, give fringe players/youngsters a chance etc and give us, the fans, a bit more football to watch.
I thought that is the whole point in being a football fan is actually seeing our team play , not wrapped up in cotton wool. They get paid to entertain us and they cant do that if they are not running around a football pitch.
We have enough players, some might not be regulars or classed as experienced but look at Ben Davies, would he be where he is now without being thrown in?
I expect 100% effort from the boys today, and I would hope that every game they play in they feel exactly the same way. None of us should want to loose....well a majority of us anyway |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 13:46 - Jan 5 with 811 views | Jokeren1943 |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 13:09 - Jan 5 by GrandPrix |
Whoever thinks we should loose a game or drop out of competitions on purpose may aswell give up supporting the Swans and sport in general.
Competitions are there to win and whats the point of being a football fan if it upsets you so much that you think we should pick and choose when to loose, just because you think it might benefit us in other areas.
A good cup run could boost confidence, give fringe players/youngsters a chance etc and give us, the fans, a bit more football to watch.
I thought that is the whole point in being a football fan is actually seeing our team play , not wrapped up in cotton wool. They get paid to entertain us and they cant do that if they are not running around a football pitch.
We have enough players, some might not be regulars or classed as experienced but look at Ben Davies, would he be where he is now without being thrown in?
I expect 100% effort from the boys today, and I would hope that every game they play in they feel exactly the same way. None of us should want to loose....well a majority of us anyway |
The is a discussion between idealism and realism.
The idea what you in an ideal world want and what in the real world is possible.
Swanseas squad is under intense pressure in the moment (in a tournament, this year, which only will be third after the Premier League and Europa League).
We saw Laudrup change/remove a massive amount of first squad players in Swanseas first match in the Mickey Mouse Cup.
It will make good sense if Laudrup spare some of his best players in a tournament we do not have the ressources, this season, to win. [Post edited 5 Jan 2014 13:47]
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:09 - Jan 5 with 774 views | Swansea_Viking |
NO.
We should be going out to win all our games as I think it helps breeds a winning mentality. If we give our best and we lose then I will accept that but going out with a negative attitude - Never.
The one result I do not want today is a draw. That would be the worst outcome as the one thing we do not need is extra games.
Looking at West Ham today that was embarrassing and although we are playing Man Utd, if we approach it right and win then that will give us some confidence for next week’s game so I hope we go for it today.
Come on Boys!
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:22 - Jan 5 with 760 views | swancity |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:09 - Jan 5 by Swansea_Viking |
NO.
We should be going out to win all our games as I think it helps breeds a winning mentality. If we give our best and we lose then I will accept that but going out with a negative attitude - Never.
The one result I do not want today is a draw. That would be the worst outcome as the one thing we do not need is extra games.
Looking at West Ham today that was embarrassing and although we are playing Man Utd, if we approach it right and win then that will give us some confidence for next week’s game so I hope we go for it today.
Come on Boys!
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Not really, a draw would be a tremendous result. Get them back to the lib with a money spinner too. Only got 38 league games remember 8 less than we are used to. More games didn't cost us last season and good results increase confidence too. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:25 - Jan 5 with 755 views | C_jack |
We have 30 players in our first team squad. Thats nowhere near amongst the smallest squad |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:35 - Jan 5 with 747 views | JackFish |
Much like the Arsenal replay last season, I'm not going to be particularly devastated if we're knocked out today out as the FA Cup is essentially the third priority for us this season.
Having said that, a genuine opportunity to win at Old Trafford and another cup run would be fantastic, and the extra games would be on spare weekends until the quarters anyway. I'm sure we'll see some rotation today, Shelvey will probably be rested and we'll see Amat and Pozuelo. |  | | |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:36 - Jan 5 with 747 views | Jokeren1943 |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:09 - Jan 5 by Swansea_Viking |
NO.
We should be going out to win all our games as I think it helps breeds a winning mentality. If we give our best and we lose then I will accept that but going out with a negative attitude - Never.
The one result I do not want today is a draw. That would be the worst outcome as the one thing we do not need is extra games.
Looking at West Ham today that was embarrassing and although we are playing Man Utd, if we approach it right and win then that will give us some confidence for next week’s game so I hope we go for it today.
Come on Boys!
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Why do you think every manager priorities which players he is going to use. Every big team with a much larger squad do it all the time.
Last season our squad looked burned out in the last 2-3 months. This season we play 10-15 more games with the same amount of players.
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:52 - Jan 5 with 733 views | Davillin |
With all of the ManU players not in the lineup today, perhaps they are going to "not win." 
Now here are three questions for you.
What if BOTH teams in a cup tie decide to "not win"?
Would you ask for your ticket price back?
Or would the comic value make it worth the price of admission? |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 15:01 - Jan 5 with 714 views | Lord_Bony |
That would be comedy gold.
Can you imagine both teams at the starting whistle just sitting down and say...
Nah feck it..  | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 15:02 - Jan 5 with 713 views | bermudajack |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 14:52 - Jan 5 by Davillin |
With all of the ManU players not in the lineup today, perhaps they are going to "not win."
Now here are three questions for you.
What if BOTH teams in a cup tie decide to "not win"?
Would you ask for your ticket price back?
Or would the comic value make it worth the price of admission? |
Why can't we go out, set up to win both games?
United have a cup semi final midweek, have unusually poor home form this season, will pick a good spinkling of youngsters mixed with experience.
There absolutely no guarantee we'll do better next week if lose today, we'll be expected to lose both games. ML would not expect to win any of these games... So we've got absolutely no pressure on us and must go for it today & next week.
Never been a better time to get two incredible results at Old Trafford... |  |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 15:07 - Jan 5 with 701 views | NeiltheTaylor |
Don't be so f*cking stupid. | |
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| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 15:14 - Jan 5 with 688 views | union_jack |
| Should we lose today's match deliberately? on 11:15 - Jan 5 by exiledclaseboy |
I don't think many would argue that if the footballing gods said to us that they could guarantee one win out of the next two games then we'd all say "next week please". But that's a whole different thing to wanting to lose today's game deliberately, or even wanting to lose it at all. |
But it's the FA Cup mun and let's not forget, the Premier League isn't everything  |  |
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