| Remain petition on 07:48 - Mar 23 with 2118 views | trinityann |
| Remain petition on 07:44 - Mar 23 by Batterseajack |
Of course it’s feeble, but what voice do remainers have?
Less that 4% of signings are made from outside of the U.K. whilst some of these may be illegitimate, many of these will be brits who are currently abroad. You need a unique and legitimate email add for each signing, so it’s quite hard for a single bot to replicate hundreds of signings. |
Bots are exceptionally good these days. |  | |  |
| Remain petition on 09:29 - Mar 23 with 2057 views | felixstowe_jack |
Let me know when it reaches 17 Million. How many of the people who have signed are eligible to vote in a General Election? | |
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| Remain petition on 09:30 - Mar 23 with 2057 views | Batterseajack |
| Remain petition on 07:48 - Mar 23 by trinityann |
Bots are exceptionally good these days. |
Sophisticated indeed. Like this guy who created 3 email accounts to discredit the petition?
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| Remain petition on 10:25 - Mar 23 with 2027 views | longlostjack |
| Remain petition on 09:29 - Mar 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Let me know when it reaches 17 Million. How many of the people who have signed are eligible to vote in a General Election? |
If the petition had been organized by Arron Banks’ Leave Campaign it would have hit 90 million signatures by now. |  |
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| Remain petition on 11:00 - Mar 23 with 2001 views | WarwickHunt |
| Remain petition on 07:48 - Mar 23 by trinityann |
Bots are exceptionally good these days. |
So Vlad tells me. |  | | |
| Remain petition on 11:03 - Mar 23 with 2002 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Remain petition on 20:11 - Mar 22 by bluey_the_blue |
"Joked"?
Have you read the actual posts? One of the friends bragging about modifications, posting link to "training balls" for maximum pain.
I condemn any death threats made against Soubry.
Again., if right wing leave people started a petition and did the same "joke" facebook posts, the outcry would be incredible - and valid. |
When she said, "THIS CREATURE NEEDS PUTTING DOWN", I do not think that she was talking about paintballing there.
Regarding the paintballing messages, it was not just a one off post. She had an extended conversation over a period of time about how she would like to shoot Theresa May (and suggested others in the House of Commons) with a modified version of a powerful paintball gun to increase maximum pain and suffering.
I'm not sure why anyone is defending this woman. |  |
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| Remain petition on 11:28 - Mar 23 with 1989 views | chad |
| Remain petition on 11:03 - Mar 23 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
When she said, "THIS CREATURE NEEDS PUTTING DOWN", I do not think that she was talking about paintballing there.
Regarding the paintballing messages, it was not just a one off post. She had an extended conversation over a period of time about how she would like to shoot Theresa May (and suggested others in the House of Commons) with a modified version of a powerful paintball gun to increase maximum pain and suffering.
I'm not sure why anyone is defending this woman. |
Don’t be coy now DYSS
I think we all understand (however morally conflicted it may be) In the logic of the pack my enemies enemy is my friend.
It is sadly and ironically all about tribalism |  | | |
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| Remain petition on 14:41 - Mar 23 with 1868 views | WarwickHunt |
| Remain petition on 21:32 - Mar 22 by pikeypaul |
A little harder to ignore the 17.4 million who signed the leave petition don’t you think?😂😂😂😂 |
Not really. It’s actually pretty easy.  | | | |
| Remain petition on 15:11 - Mar 23 with 1847 views | Flashberryjack |
| Remain petition on 14:41 - Mar 23 by WarwickHunt |
Not really. It’s actually pretty easy. |
Very true indeed. |  |
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| Remain petition on 16:06 - Mar 23 with 1800 views | sherpajacob |
Regarding the 2 marches going on currently.
In respect of the people's vote march, I'm sure there will be a big difference between the leave and remain camps estimates of the numbers attending.
In respect of the march to leave, the exact number attending will be easily verifiable. |  |
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| Remain petition on 16:24 - Mar 23 with 1788 views | Jango |
| Remain petition on 16:06 - Mar 23 by sherpajacob |
Regarding the 2 marches going on currently.
In respect of the people's vote march, I'm sure there will be a big difference between the leave and remain camps estimates of the numbers attending.
In respect of the march to leave, the exact number attending will be easily verifiable. |
goes to show leave voters have got a life and have better things to be doing than blocking roads causing emergency services nothing but problems. | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:09 - Mar 23 with 1752 views | Ebo |
| Remain petition on 16:24 - Mar 23 by Jango |
goes to show leave voters have got a life and have better things to be doing than blocking roads causing emergency services nothing but problems. |
Oh you mean like those bell ends going slow on the motorway yesterday?
God you are dense. |  |
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| Remain petition on 17:15 - Mar 23 with 1745 views | costalotta |
So on that basis current public opinion is about 9 to 1 in favour of no Brexit. |  | | |
| Remain petition on 17:22 - Mar 23 with 1737 views | howenjack |
Vive le brexit !!!!! | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:31 - Mar 23 with 1725 views | londonlisa2001 |
You’ve just posted a link to an article that explained that the fraudulent signatures were all removed.
Lol. | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:35 - Mar 23 with 1722 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Remain petition on 17:31 - Mar 23 by londonlisa2001 |
You’ve just posted a link to an article that explained that the fraudulent signatures were all removed.
Lol. |
Not true.
" is currently investigating the petition for fraudulent activity after being forced to remove 77,000 signatures"
77k were easily identified as fake accounts.
Petition "currently investigated for fraudulent activity" in addition.
It's not too difficult to write a bot, create a mass of throwaway email addresses if not already done, register and use for petition. | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:46 - Mar 23 with 1710 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 17:35 - Mar 23 by bluey_the_blue |
Not true.
" is currently investigating the petition for fraudulent activity after being forced to remove 77,000 signatures"
77k were easily identified as fake accounts.
Petition "currently investigated for fraudulent activity" in addition.
It's not too difficult to write a bot, create a mass of throwaway email addresses if not already done, register and use for petition. |
Whatever Bluey.
Let’s see what the government says:
“A few people have been talking about fraud and overseas signatures. As of this afternoon, approximately 96% of signatures on the petition were from the UK. That’s broadly what we’d expect for a petition like this.”
“We don’t comment in detail about security measures. We use different techniques - automated and manual - to identify and block signatures from bots, disposable email addresses and other sources that show signs of fraudulent activity. We also monitor signing patterns.”
And:
“Update — 15.48 Hours Friday March 22nd 2019:
Conclusions remain unchanged:
- There is nothing to suggest bots based outside of the UK are impacting on this petition in terms of numbers of signatures and the figures of non-UK signatories are not significant.
- The data available suggest that signatures are largely genuine and non-domestic signatures are indicative of ex-pats signing the petition.
- We suspect that efforts may have been made to deny service to the petitions website, preventing users from signing the petition but restrict our view to suspicion in the absence of verified information.
- It is clear that disinformation is being spread to attempt to discredit this petition by known disinformation actors.
- Anyone claiming that bots are active either has access to data which isn’t publicly available or is aware or complicit in such activity.”
See the bit above about ‘known disinformation actors’ spreading disinformation to attempt to discredit the petition? They mean the Russians. Which the usual suspects on here all believe. | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:47 - Mar 23 with 1709 views | costalotta |
| Remain petition on 17:35 - Mar 23 by bluey_the_blue |
Not true.
" is currently investigating the petition for fraudulent activity after being forced to remove 77,000 signatures"
77k were easily identified as fake accounts.
Petition "currently investigated for fraudulent activity" in addition.
It's not too difficult to write a bot, create a mass of throwaway email addresses if not already done, register and use for petition. |
Not difficult at all. Easily spotted to.
Interestingly, the confirmation click could present some challenge. | | | |
| Remain petition on 17:56 - Mar 23 with 1705 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Remain petition on 17:46 - Mar 23 by londonlisa2001 |
Whatever Bluey.
Let’s see what the government says:
“A few people have been talking about fraud and overseas signatures. As of this afternoon, approximately 96% of signatures on the petition were from the UK. That’s broadly what we’d expect for a petition like this.”
“We don’t comment in detail about security measures. We use different techniques - automated and manual - to identify and block signatures from bots, disposable email addresses and other sources that show signs of fraudulent activity. We also monitor signing patterns.”
And:
“Update — 15.48 Hours Friday March 22nd 2019:
Conclusions remain unchanged:
- There is nothing to suggest bots based outside of the UK are impacting on this petition in terms of numbers of signatures and the figures of non-UK signatories are not significant.
- The data available suggest that signatures are largely genuine and non-domestic signatures are indicative of ex-pats signing the petition.
- We suspect that efforts may have been made to deny service to the petitions website, preventing users from signing the petition but restrict our view to suspicion in the absence of verified information.
- It is clear that disinformation is being spread to attempt to discredit this petition by known disinformation actors.
- Anyone claiming that bots are active either has access to data which isn’t publicly available or is aware or complicit in such activity.”
See the bit above about ‘known disinformation actors’ spreading disinformation to attempt to discredit the petition? They mean the Russians. Which the usual suspects on here all believe. |
Lisa, have you every worked on any government related IT systems? If you had, you'd not necessarily have great confidence in them. What has been said is classic talk.
96% of signatures "from" uk? Doesn't make them valid signatures. Not difficult that. Of course they won't comment about security measures. Bot writers are usually a few steps ahead of them for the most part.
When IT idiots in NHS couldn't be arsed applying security patches on outward facing systems, excuse me for thinking that security on a frigging petition site may not be the toughest ever.
Yup, it's got to be the Russians. I mean, their disinformation caused a Leave vote, something that's been debunked already. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:00 - Mar 23 with 1701 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Remain petition on 17:47 - Mar 23 by costalotta |
Not difficult at all. Easily spotted to.
Interestingly, the confirmation click could present some challenge. |
Easily spotted? Not necessarily. Script kiddies, sure.
Serious bot writers love challenges. Floats their boat, that kind of stuff. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:03 - Mar 23 with 1695 views | longlostjack |
| Remain petition on 17:56 - Mar 23 by bluey_the_blue |
Lisa, have you every worked on any government related IT systems? If you had, you'd not necessarily have great confidence in them. What has been said is classic talk.
96% of signatures "from" uk? Doesn't make them valid signatures. Not difficult that. Of course they won't comment about security measures. Bot writers are usually a few steps ahead of them for the most part.
When IT idiots in NHS couldn't be arsed applying security patches on outward facing systems, excuse me for thinking that security on a frigging petition site may not be the toughest ever.
Yup, it's got to be the Russians. I mean, their disinformation caused a Leave vote, something that's been debunked already. |
A Tory “publicly” defending the Russians - there’s a first time for everything !  | |
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| Remain petition on 18:03 - Mar 23 with 1695 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 18:00 - Mar 23 by bluey_the_blue |
Easily spotted? Not necessarily. Script kiddies, sure.
Serious bot writers love challenges. Floats their boat, that kind of stuff. |
How many of the 4.5m signatures you reckon are “fake” then mush? |  |
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