| Departures in the development squad on 13:24 - Jun 5 with 6155 views | derbyhoop |
| Departures in the development squad on 23:31 - Jun 4 by Stainrod |
Lacking in existential angst, perhaps?
If someone had accused Mad Mark Denis of having an "Inquisitive mind" he would have nutted them.
If Nourry is big on "strong human qualities" I wonder how he would describe Taylor Richards?
An advance on 'arry's usual refrain, at least: "triffic lad.."
Question from me as someone who doesn't much follow the development and -18s. All these youngsters coming in, are they likely to play a full season is in the development squad or sent out on loan? And in an ideal world how quickly might they make the step up?
I ask because keeping in mind that Armstrong is (I think) only 20 but has been in and around the first team squad for a year, and I believe some of these players we are bringing in are around 18-19. So not that far behind age-wise, and we have already learned that we can't keep regarding 22-year-olds as "prospects". In other words they make the cut fairly quickly or we need to be brutal (which we are being now judging by all the departures).
Am happy to leave this to better qualified people than me. My one hope is we don't see lots of loans to Accrington Stanley and the like. Surely if that is all that is on offer they should either train with us or be released? But might be missing something... |
I suspect they'll spend most of the year just playing for DS. One may come on in leaps and bounds and push for a 1st team place.
Lower league loans are more likely for Hawkins, Murphy or Lloyd. |  |
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| Departures in the development squad on 17:14 - Jun 5 with 5797 views | CroydonCaptJack |
I feel the thread needs re-naming as there are plenty not departing posts here. Good to see. |  | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 17:26 - Jun 5 with 5773 views | FDC |
I swear loads of our Dev Squad players have names that sound made up, like that Japanese baseball computer game
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| Departures in the development squad on 17:32 - Jun 5 with 5750 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Departures in the development squad on 11:35 - Jun 5 by BAWHoops |
Eze, Chair, Dieng, Manning all came in this way.
Meanwhile the 'been with us since a nipper' route has yielded Furlong and Kakay |
Joe Lumley since he was 10. |  |
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| Departures in the development squad on 17:43 - Jun 5 with 5689 views | MedwayR |
| Departures in the development squad on 17:32 - Jun 5 by Esox_Lucius |
Joe Lumley since he was 10. |
Lumley joined from Spurs when he was 16. |  |
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| Departures in the development squad on 19:07 - Jun 5 with 5546 views | bosh67 |
A lot of youngsters being signed up on professional contracts and it seems that this is all very stats led. It does feel that some real effort to create a development squad that actually can feed to first team squad is being assembled... or am I just deluded? |  |
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| Departures in the development squad on 08:34 - Jun 6 with 5188 views | TheChef |
| Departures in the development squad on 17:26 - Jun 5 by FDC |
I swear loads of our Dev Squad players have names that sound made up, like that Japanese baseball computer game
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These are now all real NFL player names. |  |
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| Departures in the development squad on 09:11 - Jun 6 with 5083 views | Andybrat |
| Departures in the development squad on 19:07 - Jun 5 by bosh67 |
A lot of youngsters being signed up on professional contracts and it seems that this is all very stats led. It does feel that some real effort to create a development squad that actually can feed to first team squad is being assembled... or am I just deluded? |
I’m confused weren’t all the development squad already on a pro contract? Anyone know the difference? |  | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:40 - Jun 6 with 5064 views | terryb |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:11 - Jun 6 by Andybrat |
I’m confused weren’t all the development squad already on a pro contract? Anyone know the difference? |
I don't think that you can sign a professional contract until you're 18. I would be very surprised if players in the development squad that had reached that age, were not on a professional contract. | | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:45 - Jun 6 with 5000 views | bosh67 |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:40 - Jun 6 by terryb |
I don't think that you can sign a professional contract until you're 18. I would be very surprised if players in the development squad that had reached that age, were not on a professional contract. |
Over the years many of our players might as well have been on unprofessional contracts. | |
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| Departures in the development squad on 10:18 - Jun 6 with 4909 views | 1JD |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:11 - Jun 6 by Andybrat |
I’m confused weren’t all the development squad already on a pro contract? Anyone know the difference? |
The u18s group (aged 16-18) are signed for a 2-year scholarship deal. It’s a scholarship contract, but not a professional contact.
At the end this 2-year period, they either;
- get released
- get an extended third-year scholarship, or
- get offered a professional contract.
If kept on, they automatically move into the next age group, the U21s. | | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 10:21 - Jun 6 with 4901 views | 1JD |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:40 - Jun 6 by terryb |
I don't think that you can sign a professional contract until you're 18. I would be very surprised if players in the development squad that had reached that age, were not on a professional contract. |
It’s 17, where you can first legally sign a pro contract. Maximum 3-year period.
At 18, it can be extended to 5 year deal maximum.
The ONLY player in well over 10 years to sign a pro contract for QPR at the tender age of 17 - the earliest possible opportunity- was Rayan Kolli.
Edit: Sinclair Armstrong also. [Post edited 6 Jun 10:23]
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| Departures in the development squad on 12:35 - Jun 6 with 4703 views | QuillPenRiot |
| Departures in the development squad on 23:31 - Jun 4 by Stainrod |
Lacking in existential angst, perhaps?
If someone had accused Mad Mark Denis of having an "Inquisitive mind" he would have nutted them.
If Nourry is big on "strong human qualities" I wonder how he would describe Taylor Richards?
An advance on 'arry's usual refrain, at least: "triffic lad.."
Question from me as someone who doesn't much follow the development and -18s. All these youngsters coming in, are they likely to play a full season is in the development squad or sent out on loan? And in an ideal world how quickly might they make the step up?
I ask because keeping in mind that Armstrong is (I think) only 20 but has been in and around the first team squad for a year, and I believe some of these players we are bringing in are around 18-19. So not that far behind age-wise, and we have already learned that we can't keep regarding 22-year-olds as "prospects". In other words they make the cut fairly quickly or we need to be brutal (which we are being now judging by all the departures).
Am happy to leave this to better qualified people than me. My one hope is we don't see lots of loans to Accrington Stanley and the like. Surely if that is all that is on offer they should either train with us or be released? But might be missing something... |
Not bad, “lack of existential angst” does kind of imply “all action”
Ofc Nourry-speak version sounds better than yours |  | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 12:33 - Jun 7 with 4063 views | derbyhoop |
Looks like we're close to signing 17yo Rocco Friel (great name) from Hearts on a 4 Yr deal. RB who played for their B team.
By my reckoning it brings the Dev Squad to 19. Which could be supplemented by kids stepping up from U18s | |
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| Departures in the development squad on 07:28 - Jun 12 with 3271 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Harry Murphy and Casey Shann sign new deals. Don't think I've heard of either of them. Anyone? | | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 11:28 - Jun 12 with 2970 views | dmm |
| Departures in the development squad on 07:28 - Jun 12 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Harry Murphy and Casey Shann sign new deals. Don't think I've heard of either of them. Anyone? |
Murphy has been a Dev Squad regular. A tidy, hard working midfield player who can chip in with a few goals. Another on the small side though.
Shann is a competent LB who suffered an injury which kept him out for a number of months. Not sure if he's quite good enough to make it. The other LB, Leahy, looks a bit better to me. |  | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 16:56 - Jun 12 with 2564 views | Welsh_Ranger |
I think the cleanse is a good idea, have a development core; who you hope will make it and supplement it with U18's and 1st teamers needing game time - like the old reserves used to be. | | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 17:12 - Jun 12 with 2510 views | derbyhoop |
| Departures in the development squad on 11:28 - Jun 12 by dmm |
Murphy has been a Dev Squad regular. A tidy, hard working midfield player who can chip in with a few goals. Another on the small side though.
Shann is a competent LB who suffered an injury which kept him out for a number of months. Not sure if he's quite good enough to make it. The other LB, Leahy, looks a bit better to me. |
It wouldn't be a bad idea if those 2 + Hawkins had loan spells T L2 level. | |
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| Departures in the development squad on 22:00 - Jun 13 with 2268 views | BrianMcCarthy |
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| Departures in the development squad on 06:43 - Jun 14 with 2012 views | Match82 |
| Departures in the development squad on 17:26 - Jun 5 by FDC |
I swear loads of our Dev Squad players have names that sound made up, like that Japanese baseball computer game
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Bobson Dugnutt is just superb |  | | |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:53 - Jun 14 with 1776 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Departures in the development squad on 22:00 - Jun 13 by BrianMcCarthy |
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That is great news. If his development carries on as it has, we will have a terrific keeper. | |
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| Departures in the development squad on 11:53 - Jun 14 with 1638 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Departures in the development squad on 09:53 - Jun 14 by Esox_Lucius |
That is great news. If his development carries on as it has, we will have a terrific keeper. |
Ya, I'm excited about this one as well Esox. | |
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