Deserved a draw. I'm

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Deserved a draw. I'm

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Bit sad really must do better..4/10....see me!

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yeah yeah yeah
if you can't score the goals you're gonna get beat innit

we was only robbed cos we didn't score

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not sure how the Ref got 2.6

Mark Halsey's words not mine

"It’s not a penalty for me, Bobby Madley’s gone looking for trouble in the last minute and he’s found it and to add insult to injury he’s booked Fonte for the incident too.

It’s just a really soft penalty to give and Southampton also have every right to feel aggrieved that they weren’t awarded a foul on Shane Long just before the penalty was given. The other issue is Laurent Koscielny was lying on the floor for a long period before the decision, referees aren’t doctors and you could say Madley should have stopped the game to allow Koscielny to receive treatment on the pitch."

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Faster,stronger,bigger-Newcastle were outstanding . No one from QPR threw in the towel- we were blown away by a better team

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Well that was hard to watch Newcastle were the better side across the whole pitch every position. Could Jimmy changed tack and put 2 on shelby who ran the show ? If we could have kept it down to 4 they were lucky with a couple of goals but then hit the bar and missed others in truth it could have been 10 in the end. No real good performances from us could see lots of effort team did not give up just completely outclassed will need JFH to try and lift the team reminded me of Swansea and Fulham tonkings

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Here's my 2 cents:

I have a different view from most on here. I do not blame one single player for what happened yesterday. I think it all comes down to unity, or lack of. Unity in the sense that our squad is NOT confident and does NOT believe it is good enough. Unity in the sense that they are NOT working together and they do NOT understand each other and their prospective roles. Unity in the sense that QPR has had a virus for a long time and no manager seems to know how to cure it when coming in. Unity in the sense that we either DO NOT have a suitable game plan for each match or we DO NOT have the confidence and collectedness in order to act it out.

I say this because we would have one of the better squads in the league if every player in the team knew what they were doing, knew what their colleagues were doing, had a good game plan that suited each match and had the confidence to act it out. Even looking at the players as they played last night, I could see that they all have ability and they all have the basic knowledge of an individual footballer. The choice of Perch from the outset seemed actually a good one. He was breaking up play and hurtling himself into some aerial challenges. Conor seemed to be chasing down the defence with some real pace. But as the game went on, the true problems showed themselves.

Each member of our defence seemed to have no idea what the other members of the defence were doing (which was actually the problem of the whole team but showed itself most problematically in our defence). It's like we were taken by surprise completely, expecting Newcastle to play like Rochdale. I actually thought Henry showed talent in a thankless job that basically becomes pointless if the rest of the team cannot do their job or provide an open pass for him to send. Henry is not the only one. Several players truly tried, throughout the whole game. Sadly, a number of other players found themselves shellshocked and unwilling after 2 or 3 goals went in and weren't able to take any more responsibility as they had already shat themselves.

I really do not envy JFH's position. Coming to QPR is immensely hard as a manager. That disease I mentioned... it's not bad attitudes in the dressing room. We've dealt with that. It's the fact that, since our first big bucks takeover, we've gone through countless changes every season. We have barely been able to hold on to a matrix of a squad over any season. Each season there's either a new manager or an almost entirely new squad (this season we've started with a manager who is almost brand new to us and a squad that is more consistent than past seasons but still developing and incorporating new signings). Therefore, keeping a solid playing philosophy at the club has been impossible. We do not have an identity. You may get good individuals coming in but no one will truly know what we're doing or meant to be doing. This was even evident in our promotion season with Harry: we were promoted because we had some good good players, regardless of the fact that we never really got going and it being the most boring season I remember. Maybe we really do need 3 or 4 seasons in Championship obscurity before we really turn into a force.

JFH needs to be adapting and dealing with the situation better, though. We need to be more diverse when it comes to formation and tactics, especially when certain players are unavailable. It is unacceptable to play the exact same system in every game and especially unacceptable to have Washington coming into the team, like for like, when Polter is out without changing the system (some argue we shouldn't have that system to begin with). We shouldn't have two holding/defensive midfielders. I don't think Henry and Cousins can be in the team at the same time. Their roles are too similar and we become too negative with both of them on. We have to pick one or the other (it may be controversial but I'd rather keep Henry as he has a cool head and has played well in the past; Cousins hasn't really shown much of anything since after his first appearance). We shouldn't be chopping and changing the back line in every game (we may have no choice over that now, injuries considered). On the other hand, his substitutions have been fairly good in the majority of games.

We miss Luongo. He's not at the top of his game yet but he brings a creativity and gives options further up the park. Our two new Polish recruits could be a solution in the middle as well, bringing more creativity. Why the hell did we tell Faurlin he may not get much first team football this season? We should have told him he'd get as much football as possible if his fitness allowed. I imagine Shodipo was left out because his lack of experience and confidence was feared in the face of such a good opposition. But really we needed him from the get go. Yeni really didn't provide anything apart from a great cross much later.

And so it comes back to the defence, which is an absolute shambles again. All things would improve or have a better chance of improvement if that could be fixed. And this is where JFH has to take responsibility. He needs to get them well drilled and needs to have an established back line that is only changed if there are injuries. He needs to drill the midfield and wide players so that they cover well and he needs to make us more progressive and creative, which will in itself take the heat off the back four by forcing our opposition into defending.

My ideal lineup, regardless of injuries:

Smithies

Perch Onuoha Hall Bidwell

Shodipo Henry Luongo Ngbakoto

Chery Polter

Polter could be swapped in and out with Sylla.

Luongo could be swapped in and out with the two Polish fellows.

Henry could be swapped in and out with Cousins.

The back line... god help us.

Ngbakoto could be interchanged with Khayati. (this is a position we don't have much going for)

We could also try having Polter and Sylla up front with Chery in a more central role.

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What a shambles! Okay, Newcastle look like a team set for the Premiership and outclassed us in every department, but 0-6? It was just embarrassing. So what's the answer? Can you blame the players? Not really, if you're not good enough, you're not good enough. They tried, and no one wants to lose 0-6 at home. Can you blame the manager? Well, yes, I suppose you can. He picks the side and calls the style of play. I want to be constructive, so instead of slagging him off, let me suggest a couple of things. Try playing 2 up front (at least at home)...we've played a totally negative 1 up front all season and it patently isn't working. Polter does a reasonable job of making a nuisance of himself, but he doesn't score too many goals. In his absence we have Washington who is a decent enough player, but expecting him to outjump 6 foot plus defenders and hold the ball up is ridiculous, and watching him run about chasing lost causes all night was almost comical. Not until he was joined by Sylla did we look remotely like posing a threat up front. So far I haven't been very impressed by JFH's new signings. Bidwell looks no better than the much maligned Konchesky, Cousins looks slow and unable to pass the ball forward. As for the others we haven't seen enough of them to pass judgement yet, but no one has exactly set Loftus Road alight. Unlike most critics here, I don't have a major problem with the defence and goalkeeper. With a bit more positional nous, they'd be okay. My problem lies with the midfield. Henry and Cousins are both defensive, negative midfielders (though Henry very occasionally shows flashes of creativity), and both give the ball away way too cheaply. N'Gbakoto looks lost, while Chery is really the only player who looks capable of providing any danger. And here is where the problem lies..because the midfield is so negative and slow in the build up, it doesn't supply the lone striker effectively, and because the ball is given away so frequently, the defence is continually under pressure. We are basically inviting other teams to attack us. We desperately need a strategy which results in the ball being up the other end of the pitch more often to give the defence a bit of breathing space. We could try a less negative midfield, play 2 strikers, try to hit teams on the breakaway (none of which we seem able to do at the moment). Anything would be an improvement on last night. So, yes, Newcastle were by far the better team yesterday, but we made it easy for them. Shelvey ran the game, but he was allowed to. If the sad truth is that our players are just no good, then no amount of tactical shift will sort things out, but I'd like to think there's some talent there, and that the answer lies in a different, more positive approach, and that has to come from the manager.

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Good game for Saints but the score should have been 3-0 at least.

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