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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects 06:37 - May 16 with 13880 viewsRonaldStump

What is the real source of truth for the latest rise in cases in Glasgow?

6 people who have had the vaccine are currently being treated for complications in Glasgow.

What is the REAL truth?

Isn't it strange how vaccinated people are coming down with the CHY NA virus (Kung Flu) or one of it's variant double or triple mutant versions?

It's either the jab doesn't do what it's supposed to or it actually does?

With no long term studies on this new medicine miracle, but plenty coming out about the effects it's having on the immune system.

Why is there a need for healthy people to get jabbed when they have a 99.7% chance of surviving anyway. (more to the point why are we jabbing our kids?)

Far more questions than answers at the moment

cue Anti vaxxer abuse from the usual crowd!
[Post edited 16 May 2021 6:57]

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 17:54 - May 17 with 1000 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 17:28 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

So scientists are not just sharks etc etc they are also conspiracy theorists as well. You really know how to lay in to them when they disagree with you.
Tell me which bat coronavirus has a "unique furin-like cleavage site of the 2019-nCoV, lacking in the other SARS-like CoVs. " identified by research.

Do you know the nobel prize winner Kary Mullis, was he lying?
Is F. William Engdahl a liar?
Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr a liar?

A round up of Dr Fauci's lies and or mistakes on COVID.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/here-are-faucis-biggest-flip-flops-and-b

Are you suggesting that Fauci and NIH did not sponsor the Wuhan lab research, when their own papers quote them as sponsors?


Mullis died in 2019. He was no virologist. The others are politicians with vested interest.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:01 - May 17 with 986 viewsonehunglow

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 15:38 - May 17 by Professor

Ok

Lusaka, Lithuania, Louisiana, Lucerne or Liverpool.

Happy with that. You are so dense!!!!


Paul.You should have been an undertaker as you are calm beyond measure.

Ive long since given up with thee anti all.

We get a problem ,we produce a solution ,hen it's not good enough.

No lockdown ,no mask,just let em die

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:36 - May 17 with 969 viewskrunchykarrot

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 17:54 - May 17 by Professor

Mullis died in 2019. He was no virologist. The others are politicians with vested interest.


Hi Prof, you will never convince the Antivax brigade. I was just coming home and a caller said something interesting. It went along the lines of if we went for herd immunity first off would we have been covered for the Indian or Kent variety. She followed that with Australia has closed down and they have the Indian strain and are perplexed where its come from. Anyway it got me thinking.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:38 - May 17 with 961 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:01 - May 17 by onehunglow

Paul.You should have been an undertaker as you are calm beyond measure.

Ive long since given up with thee anti all.

We get a problem ,we produce a solution ,hen it's not good enough.

No lockdown ,no mask,just let em die


"No lockdown ,no mask,just let em die "
If you are referring to me then I will call you a liar to your face, forum rules or no forum rules.
I have already explained my position, why don't you go and read it again.
Letting people die is to not use every available drug to treat them.
So where do you stand?
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:38 - May 17 with 968 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:36 - May 17 by krunchykarrot

Hi Prof, you will never convince the Antivax brigade. I was just coming home and a caller said something interesting. It went along the lines of if we went for herd immunity first off would we have been covered for the Indian or Kent variety. She followed that with Australia has closed down and they have the Indian strain and are perplexed where its come from. Anyway it got me thinking.


From India. There was still some limited travel-I think was explained elsewhere in the thread on red list and India. The herd immunity one is good!
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:40 - May 17 with 960 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 17:54 - May 17 by Professor

Mullis died in 2019. He was no virologist. The others are politicians with vested interest.


Yes, as I have predicted before that is exactly what you would say.
There is only one arbiter of "truth" and that is you.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects (n/t) on 19:10 - May 17 with 935 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:40 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Yes, as I have predicted before that is exactly what you would say.
There is only one arbiter of "truth" and that is you.


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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:17 - May 17 with 928 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Interesting data from Bolton

Infection rate per 100,000
Over 60s 59
20 to 39 310
10 to 19 486

Over 10,000 people who were eligible to be vaccinated have not taken up the offer as of Friday

6,200 vaccines administered over the weekend.
Most of the people now in local hospitals were offered the vaccine buy declined.

Clear evidence that you should get vaccinated.

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:17 - May 17 with 924 viewsonehunglow

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 18:38 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

"No lockdown ,no mask,just let em die "
If you are referring to me then I will call you a liar to your face, forum rules or no forum rules.
I have already explained my position, why don't you go and read it again.
Letting people die is to not use every available drug to treat them.
So where do you stand?


You won't see me face to face but read what is aid,Champ before going off on one.

People like you eshew mask wearing,distancing, and now vaccine SO...the question remains to those who are denying this curse' s true effects is .are you happy to carry on as normal and ee people die.If they do,they tough,they're probably old anyway.Innit.

Consider yourself blessed not to be in a position to say anything to my face .Trust me,you best stay well away from me.

I'll leave it there

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:37 - May 17 with 920 viewsScotia

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 17:28 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

So scientists are not just sharks etc etc they are also conspiracy theorists as well. You really know how to lay in to them when they disagree with you.
Tell me which bat coronavirus has a "unique furin-like cleavage site of the 2019-nCoV, lacking in the other SARS-like CoVs. " identified by research.

Do you know the nobel prize winner Kary Mullis, was he lying?
Is F. William Engdahl a liar?
Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr a liar?

A round up of Dr Fauci's lies and or mistakes on COVID.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/here-are-faucis-biggest-flip-flops-and-b

Are you suggesting that Fauci and NIH did not sponsor the Wuhan lab research, when their own papers quote them as sponsors?


Engdahl is an economist who thinks oil forms from rock. Do you agree?

If Robert F Kennedy isn't a lier he's very misguided.

You're very easily led aren't you?
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:45 - May 17 with 900 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:37 - May 17 by Scotia

Engdahl is an economist who thinks oil forms from rock. Do you agree?

If Robert F Kennedy isn't a lier he's very misguided.

You're very easily led aren't you?


Except there are hundreds of others which I just cannot be bothered to post because your attitude is exactly the same as profs, attack the person and not the data being presented. It is all you ever do.
How do you think any hydrocarbon forms?
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:48 - May 17 with 898 viewsonehunglow

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:37 - May 17 by Scotia

Engdahl is an economist who thinks oil forms from rock. Do you agree?

If Robert F Kennedy isn't a lier he's very misguided.

You're very easily led aren't you?


I remember Bobby K getting shot. Where did the time go.Now just wtf has he to do with covid 2021.

Life throws up problems then we address them.

We did with covid but

its not safe enough
its not good enough
its ueless
Older people are the main ones dying.
That's what Im seeing

There is s clear trend in our fan base of demeaning/insulting older people.

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:59 - May 17 with 891 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:17 - May 17 by onehunglow

You won't see me face to face but read what is aid,Champ before going off on one.

People like you eshew mask wearing,distancing, and now vaccine SO...the question remains to those who are denying this curse' s true effects is .are you happy to carry on as normal and ee people die.If they do,they tough,they're probably old anyway.Innit.

Consider yourself blessed not to be in a position to say anything to my face .Trust me,you best stay well away from me.

I'll leave it there


You are one twisted individual, I know you have problems so I am going to cut you some slack. But do not threaten me with personal violence again.
As you obviously did not bother to read what I wrote before or missed it I will repeat it here for you again.
Since March 2020 I have advocated
Masks
Glasses
Gloves
Border locking
Quarantine
Isolation
Lockdown because they did not do proper quarantine or isolation
The use of every available drug to treat COVID .

If you don't believe me go back to the original COVID Thread in March 2020 and others and read it for yourself. You will find that I predicted exactly what has happened if Johnson didn't shut the border and bring in proper Quarantine.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:07 - May 17 with 884 viewsScotia

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:45 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Except there are hundreds of others which I just cannot be bothered to post because your attitude is exactly the same as profs, attack the person and not the data being presented. It is all you ever do.
How do you think any hydrocarbon forms?


I'm far more qualified to discuss the formation of Oil than Engdahl is.

Oh, and some bloke who used to work in factory.

Feel free to enlighten me.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:16 - May 17 with 863 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:07 - May 17 by Scotia

I'm far more qualified to discuss the formation of Oil than Engdahl is.

Oh, and some bloke who used to work in factory.

Feel free to enlighten me.


No, come on tell me how hydrocarbons are formed, seeing as you raised it.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:08 - May 17 with 843 viewsScotia

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:16 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

No, come on tell me how hydrocarbons are formed, seeing as you raised it.


Nope, you raised it.

A hydrocarbon is an organic compound. As far as I know Engdahl argues it is an inorganic compound. He's an economist arguing against a fundamental of chemistry.

Do you really think that's credible?

Have you thought for a minute that these people are just stringing you along?
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:12 - May 17 with 837 viewsonehunglow

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:17 - May 17 by felixstowe_jack

Interesting data from Bolton

Infection rate per 100,000
Over 60s 59
20 to 39 310
10 to 19 486

Over 10,000 people who were eligible to be vaccinated have not taken up the offer as of Friday

6,200 vaccines administered over the weekend.
Most of the people now in local hospitals were offered the vaccine buy declined.

Clear evidence that you should get vaccinated.


And this is surely a racial/cultural issue

Muslim friends.There is no pork in the vaccine.

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:21 - May 17 with 827 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:08 - May 17 by Scotia

Nope, you raised it.

A hydrocarbon is an organic compound. As far as I know Engdahl argues it is an inorganic compound. He's an economist arguing against a fundamental of chemistry.

Do you really think that's credible?

Have you thought for a minute that these people are just stringing you along?


Pay attention, you raised it I was talking about Engdahl 's take on Fauci, nothing to do with oil.
You introduced his take on oil.

As to whether Hydrocarbons are Organic, then possibly coal, but even that is not certain.

You do know that there are hydrocarbons on Titan and asteroids, but there aren't any "organics". In fact Hydrocarbons, based on Hydrogen, are just about everywhere in the universe.

Yet again I have had to school you with the scientific facts.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:34 - May 17 with 825 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:21 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Pay attention, you raised it I was talking about Engdahl 's take on Fauci, nothing to do with oil.
You introduced his take on oil.

As to whether Hydrocarbons are Organic, then possibly coal, but even that is not certain.

You do know that there are hydrocarbons on Titan and asteroids, but there aren't any "organics". In fact Hydrocarbons, based on Hydrogen, are just about everywhere in the universe.

Yet again I have had to school you with the scientific facts.


No. Inorganic hydrocarbons are a tiny fraction of the Earth’s hydrocarbons. Directly or indirectly they are from bacterial, plant or algal products. Those that can synthesise hydrogen and carbon together. Photosynthesis being the biggest driver. Those of animal origin would derive their energy from plants in a food chain. The simple building blocks form the source for longer chain alkanes and alkenes.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:12 - May 17 with 796 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:34 - May 17 by Professor

No. Inorganic hydrocarbons are a tiny fraction of the Earth’s hydrocarbons. Directly or indirectly they are from bacterial, plant or algal products. Those that can synthesise hydrogen and carbon together. Photosynthesis being the biggest driver. Those of animal origin would derive their energy from plants in a food chain. The simple building blocks form the source for longer chain alkanes and alkenes.


Yes that is why there are vast quantities of hydrocarbons on Titan, the plants and algae are producing it.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20080213.html

You two make a great team, like the Marx brothers.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:26 - May 17 with 791 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:12 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Yes that is why there are vast quantities of hydrocarbons on Titan, the plants and algae are producing it.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20080213.html

You two make a great team, like the Marx brothers.
[Post edited 17 May 2021 22:13]


Mr Dense strikes again. If you read posts instead of following your idiotic agenda you would see I said Earth. Not Titan, Europa, Io or any other moon. And yes there are small quantities of inorganic hydrocarbons on earth. But not the hydrocarbons used for fuel or lubricant. Strange then that plants can synthesise hydrocarbon fuel sources. Brazil being a big example of this. You would like Brazil. They have an idiot populist in charge.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:50 - May 17 with 774 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:26 - May 17 by Professor

Mr Dense strikes again. If you read posts instead of following your idiotic agenda you would see I said Earth. Not Titan, Europa, Io or any other moon. And yes there are small quantities of inorganic hydrocarbons on earth. But not the hydrocarbons used for fuel or lubricant. Strange then that plants can synthesise hydrocarbon fuel sources. Brazil being a big example of this. You would like Brazil. They have an idiot populist in charge.


So, let me see, Hydrocarbons are found on comets, asteroids and Gas Giants.
They are all called organics as are the ones on Titan.
So it can be found all over the solar system but hardly any on Earth.
Russian Scientists have been talking about Adiabatic Oil for decades.
Scotia was dispaging Mr Engdahl who was correct Oil does come from Rocks, as well as organic life.
That was the discussion which you butted into as usual.
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 23:01 - May 17 with 771 viewsProfessor

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:50 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

So, let me see, Hydrocarbons are found on comets, asteroids and Gas Giants.
They are all called organics as are the ones on Titan.
So it can be found all over the solar system but hardly any on Earth.
Russian Scientists have been talking about Adiabatic Oil for decades.
Scotia was dispaging Mr Engdahl who was correct Oil does come from Rocks, as well as organic life.
That was the discussion which you butted into as usual.


Inorganic hydrocarbons come from methane. The amounts on earth are a tiny fraction of organic hydrocarbons. There is little science on them as they are rare on earth and usually in pretty inaccessible places. There may be undiscovered deposits which I am sure you would love as we can carry on burning them until we reach oblivion. But you don’t believe that either. In fact unless some tin foil hat anti-science source tells you then it can’t possibly be the case. Either way they don’t come from rocks. Even though that’s what petroleum means
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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 01:27 - May 18 with 730 viewsDJack

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9588873/Chinese-billionaire-yacht-Steve

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:01 - May 18 with 674 viewsScotia

Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:21 - May 17 by A_Fans_Dad

Pay attention, you raised it I was talking about Engdahl 's take on Fauci, nothing to do with oil.
You introduced his take on oil.

As to whether Hydrocarbons are Organic, then possibly coal, but even that is not certain.

You do know that there are hydrocarbons on Titan and asteroids, but there aren't any "organics". In fact Hydrocarbons, based on Hydrogen, are just about everywhere in the universe.

Yet again I have had to school you with the scientific facts.


I did introduce his take on oil because it is absurd. You referred to him as being a credible source regarding Fauci and Covid. He seems to be anything but. You believe him, and notable others, because you want to.

Then you come out with this :-

"As to whether Hydrocarbons are Organic, then possibly coal, but even that is not certain."

Any evidence, whatsoever, that coal isn't organic? I don't know if you live in south Wales but we couldn't be in a better place to establish that fact.
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