| Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 188883 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Discuss.
Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.
But that’s another debate.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:12 - Jul 14 with 1412 views | deanscfc |
The little girl and her mum moments before Russia killed them.
Again, no additional words needed. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:24 - Jul 14 with 1384 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:12 - Jul 14 by deanscfc |
The little girl and her mum moments before Russia killed them.
Again, no additional words needed. |
Sad if it's the case. meanwhile, Two people were killed when Ukrainian forces shelled a bus station in the separatist-held city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, a separatist leader said on Thursday. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:42 - Jul 14 with 1350 views | deanscfc |
Not in doubt. Now 23 dead so far but many more injured.
Pretty much anything Russia says should be treated with suspicion (they weren't going to invade) and no killing would be taking place at all had they not invaded Ukraine first in 2014 and then in 2022. [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 19:46]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 00:49 - Jul 15 with 1284 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:24 - Jul 14 by controversial_jack |
Sad if it's the case. meanwhile, Two people were killed when Ukrainian forces shelled a bus station in the separatist-held city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, a separatist leader said on Thursday. |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 01:15 - Jul 15 with 1276 views | DJack |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 05:20 - Jul 15 with 1241 views | felixstowe_jack |
If Russia had not invaded Ukraine these deaths would not have occurred clearly the deaths are the result of Russian aggression | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:29 - Jul 15 with 1184 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 00:49 - Jul 15 by DJack |
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Not that there was any doubt about what they're about, but the evidence just continues.
In the last 20 minutes they've just launched missiles at numerous civilian areas including Kremenchuk again. To call them war criminals would be far too weak. [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 19:45]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:37 - Jul 15 with 1182 views | felixstowe_jack |
As well as being complicit in the death of the British Aid worker by withholding his medication. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:51 - Jul 15 with 1175 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:37 - Jul 15 by felixstowe_jack |
As well as being complicit in the death of the British Aid worker by withholding his medication. |
Yep. B*stards.
Sounds like 5 missiles have hit Dnipro in the last hour, 2 have hit Kremenchuk and one has hit Bila Tserkva. The places aren't anywhere near the front line. Just straightforward Russian terrorism. And air raid sirens cover every part of Ukraine right now. To think that a small % of people still tried claiming that Russia wasn't targeting civilians. [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 19:52]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:53 - Jul 16 with 1120 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:42 - Jul 14 by deanscfc |
Not in doubt. Now 23 dead so far but many more injured.
Pretty much anything Russia says should be treated with suspicion (they weren't going to invade) and no killing would be taking place at all had they not invaded Ukraine first in 2014 and then in 2022. [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 19:46]
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Donetsk has been shelled continually now for a month. Scores dead including the elderly, women and children. And no, it’s no the Russians. The DPR have held control of this city since the 2014 Maidan uprising so it’s the Ukrainians who are shelling these residential areas, the city centre and recently hit a maternity hospital.
War crimes cut both ways. |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:16 - Jul 16 with 1103 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 01:15 - Jul 15 by DJack |
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You want to talk about atrocities?
https://t.me/Reality_Theories/7651
Never mind the source, the world knows full well that this happened. Although I can’t remember any condemnation surprisingly.
This happened on May 2nd 2014 in the throes of the Euromaidan revolution. These Ukrainian patriots (including army and police personnel probably a couple of thousand strong) chased down a peaceful picket of protesters against the regime change and the draconian anti Russian language laws they wanted the bring in - the removal of the Russian language from schools, official government forms and documents and relegating the language (which half the population spoke daily and all Ukrainians could speak and understand it) to a regional dialect despite its obvious importance.
It would be akin to Welsh nationalists seizing power in Cardiff bay and making the use of English illegal.
How on earth does anyone with a fair mind justify that??
Even if you do a kilk/trampie trip - would you burn those who protested against that ruling to death inside a locked building? These aren’t missile strikes from miles away - these people looked on and laughed while innocent men , women and children were barbarically burned alive in the Odessa trades Union building (or shot dead or beaten to death while they flung themselves out of windows to escape the flames).
This is the true face of right wing fascism in Ukraine. The Ukraine YOU support. There have been no arrests let alone prosecutions for this hideous act of mass murder. A democracy? Don’t make me laugh. Think of these images the next time you want to wave your blue and yellow flags. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:57 - Jul 16 with 1044 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:53 - Jul 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
Donetsk has been shelled continually now for a month. Scores dead including the elderly, women and children. And no, it’s no the Russians. The DPR have held control of this city since the 2014 Maidan uprising so it’s the Ukrainians who are shelling these residential areas, the city centre and recently hit a maternity hospital.
War crimes cut both ways. |
I'm amazed at how ppl don't question events and just swallow the press narrative. An example would be Bucha. The victims were mostly killed by artillery and not bullets or the bayonet. Russian troops had left and the Ukranians shelled the retreating Russian troops.The civilians were caught in this and inadvertently killed by their own side, as the Russians wouldn't shell their own troops. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 14:28 - Jul 16 with 1020 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:57 - Jul 16 by controversial_jack |
I'm amazed at how ppl don't question events and just swallow the press narrative. An example would be Bucha. The victims were mostly killed by artillery and not bullets or the bayonet. Russian troops had left and the Ukranians shelled the retreating Russian troops.The civilians were caught in this and inadvertently killed by their own side, as the Russians wouldn't shell their own troops. |
So you've had access to the autopsy reports? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 15:03 - Jul 16 with 991 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 14:28 - Jul 16 by Boundy |
So you've had access to the autopsy reports? |
Dozens of civilians who allegedly died during presence of the Russian army at the Ukrainian city of Bucha were killed by tiny metal arrows from shells of a type fired by artillery, forensic doctors claimed. Despite the anti-Russian point of view presented in the research, the results show that these were the AFU who shelled civilians in Bucha.
Pathologists and coroners who are carrying out postmortems on bodies found in mass graves in the region north of Kyiv, where Russian forces have been accused of atrocities, said they had found small metal darts, called fléchettes, embedded in people’s heads and chests.
“We found several really thin, nail-like objects in the bodies of men and women and so did others of my colleagues in the region,” Vladyslav Pirovskyi, a Ukrainian forensic doctor, told “The Guardian”. “It is very hard to find those in the body, they are too thin. The majority of these bodies come from the Bucha-Irpin region.” | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:05 - Jul 16 with 971 views | deanscfc |
Sigh. Can't believe this site allows Kremlin propaganda, even given what us happening. But here we are.
A few facts as it's better for my health not to engage directly with the worst types of people.
1) To again repeat. Everything started with Russia. Everything. As already mentioned, the day Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 I was travelling in Europe and I saw the tears and fear of a Ukrainian girl in our dorm room. She sensed what was coming next and she was right. For a long time Russia has been trying to destabilise Ukraine. Anyone defending or trying to defend the invasion an independent country for imperial reasons (which they now openly boast about on their state TV) is a total scumbag. I can't be much more succinct.
2. Eva f*cking Bartlett. As stated already, the paid Kremlin propagandist who deleted all her tweets to me on twitter because I exposed all her lies about Mariupol not having been destroyed by Russia, and her claim that there was no mass death or mass graves there (what a f'n clown).
In relation to the violence in Odesa 2014 (after Russia had invaded Crimea), here is an account without the Russian propaganda (with video footage).
https://khpg.org/en/1407453894
Note that the Ukrainians were attacked first and were the first casualties, and that we can see on video them helping people out of the building with scaffolding (again exposing some of the Kremlin lies).
Bartlett has been exposed for lying a number of times. Just like other 'independent journalists' there, she is a Kremlin tool. A paid Kremlin tool. Phillips, Lancaster...that other guy Dougan (who yesterday had British POW Aiden Aslin stand to sing the Russian anthem - ffs - obviously free choice/no duress at all) are paid by the Russian forces. The ones they literally travel with in Z-marked trucks. Post their stuff as if it's not Kremlin propaganda and you're a f*cking idiot.
3. Where is this stupid f*cking idea coming from that Ukraine banned Russian? That was a rhetorical question because it's again more dumb Kremlin propaganda which is then spread by dimwits/sh*tty people online, who both have never been to Ukraine, don't know any Ukrainians, and simply want to be 'controversial' and therefore useful idiots for the Russian war criminals.
Here are the facts on 'Ukraine banning Russian':
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/08/sergey-lavrov/russian-has-not-
Note... now that you've been educated, don't just scroll on. See if you can be a man and admit that you were incorrect because you believed Russian propaganda.
It's just all so ridiculous. I know many people throughout Ukraine...quite a few from Kyiv and some from the East. All speak Russian with zero issues at all. Only for the first time ever, some people are now CHOOSING to stop speaking Russian because they now have no doubts about what Russia is about and what it has done.
4. Bucha. I'll keep this brief but I think anyone denying the events here should be banned from this site. There's so much evidence including video footage, photographic evidence, aerial inagery and witness reports that it's no different from holocaust denial. There is zero doubt and those trying to cast doubt know this, so I have total contempt for them.
This very recent report covers much of what Russia has done:
https://osce.usmission.gov/response-to-moscow-mechanism-report-on-ukraine/
I can't remember if it is covered in the report but we also know that many young women (as young as 14) were now pregnant as a result of sexual violence by groups of Russian soldiers.
5. Just as Russia started all this killing, Russia can stop it all by leaving the country it invaded. There is no equivalence, no 'two sides'. Everything can end when Russia f*cks off out of the country that it has zero right to be in. Anyone trying to create a false equivalence should be met with some serious hostility. The Kremlin and its propagandists are evil imperialists and they pretty much gave up on trying to hide that. It is all out there, on their own state TV, in their own words. Their goals always were to 'take back old land' and to 'destroy what it means to be Ukrainian'. Their telegram channels discuss killing civilians in order to win the war. But part of Russian war is disinformation...to attempt to exhaust their enemy, to get people to cast doubt on their war crimes so that idiots online will help them when sanctions and Western weapons hit. It is a country that doesn't even allow for calling its invasion a war, ffs. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 17:56]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:32 - Jul 16 with 954 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:05 - Jul 16 by deanscfc |
Sigh. Can't believe this site allows Kremlin propaganda, even given what us happening. But here we are.
A few facts as it's better for my health not to engage directly with the worst types of people.
1) To again repeat. Everything started with Russia. Everything. As already mentioned, the day Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 I was travelling in Europe and I saw the tears and fear of a Ukrainian girl in our dorm room. She sensed what was coming next and she was right. For a long time Russia has been trying to destabilise Ukraine. Anyone defending or trying to defend the invasion an independent country for imperial reasons (which they now openly boast about on their state TV) is a total scumbag. I can't be much more succinct.
2. Eva f*cking Bartlett. As stated already, the paid Kremlin propagandist who deleted all her tweets to me on twitter because I exposed all her lies about Mariupol not having been destroyed by Russia, and her claim that there was no mass death or mass graves there (what a f'n clown).
In relation to the violence in Odesa 2014 (after Russia had invaded Crimea), here is an account without the Russian propaganda (with video footage).
https://khpg.org/en/1407453894
Note that the Ukrainians were attacked first and were the first casualties, and that we can see on video them helping people out of the building with scaffolding (again exposing some of the Kremlin lies).
Bartlett has been exposed for lying a number of times. Just like other 'independent journalists' there, she is a Kremlin tool. A paid Kremlin tool. Phillips, Lancaster...that other guy Dougan (who yesterday had British POW Aiden Aslin stand to sing the Russian anthem - ffs - obviously free choice/no duress at all) are paid by the Russian forces. The ones they literally travel with in Z-marked trucks. Post their stuff as if it's not Kremlin propaganda and you're a f*cking idiot.
3. Where is this stupid f*cking idea coming from that Ukraine banned Russian? That was a rhetorical question because it's again more dumb Kremlin propaganda which is then spread by dimwits/sh*tty people online, who both have never been to Ukraine, don't know any Ukrainians, and simply want to be 'controversial' and therefore useful idiots for the Russian war criminals.
Here are the facts on 'Ukraine banning Russian':
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/08/sergey-lavrov/russian-has-not-
Note... now that you've been educated, don't just scroll on. See if you can be a man and admit that you were incorrect because you believed Russian propaganda.
It's just all so ridiculous. I know many people throughout Ukraine...quite a few from Kyiv and some from the East. All speak Russian with zero issues at all. Only for the first time ever, some people are now CHOOSING to stop speaking Russian because they now have no doubts about what Russia is about and what it has done.
4. Bucha. I'll keep this brief but I think anyone denying the events here should be banned from this site. There's so much evidence including video footage, photographic evidence, aerial inagery and witness reports that it's no different from holocaust denial. There is zero doubt and those trying to cast doubt know this, so I have total contempt for them.
This very recent report covers much of what Russia has done:
https://osce.usmission.gov/response-to-moscow-mechanism-report-on-ukraine/
I can't remember if it is covered in the report but we also know that many young women (as young as 14) were now pregnant as a result of sexual violence by groups of Russian soldiers.
5. Just as Russia started all this killing, Russia can stop it all by leaving the country it invaded. There is no equivalence, no 'two sides'. Everything can end when Russia f*cks off out of the country that it has zero right to be in. Anyone trying to create a false equivalence should be met with some serious hostility. The Kremlin and its propagandists are evil imperialists and they pretty much gave up on trying to hide that. It is all out there, on their own state TV, in their own words. Their goals always were to 'take back old land' and to 'destroy what it means to be Ukrainian'. Their telegram channels discuss killing civilians in order to win the war. But part of Russian war is disinformation...to attempt to exhaust their enemy, to get people to cast doubt on their war crimes so that idiots online will help them when sanctions and Western weapons hit. It is a country that doesn't even allow for calling its invasion a war, ffs. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 17:56]
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Wait for the "but" I'm sure one of the chuckle brothers will be along shortly to tell you the "truth" | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:35 - Jul 16 with 952 views | Catullus |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:16 - Jul 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
You want to talk about atrocities?
https://t.me/Reality_Theories/7651
Never mind the source, the world knows full well that this happened. Although I can’t remember any condemnation surprisingly.
This happened on May 2nd 2014 in the throes of the Euromaidan revolution. These Ukrainian patriots (including army and police personnel probably a couple of thousand strong) chased down a peaceful picket of protesters against the regime change and the draconian anti Russian language laws they wanted the bring in - the removal of the Russian language from schools, official government forms and documents and relegating the language (which half the population spoke daily and all Ukrainians could speak and understand it) to a regional dialect despite its obvious importance.
It would be akin to Welsh nationalists seizing power in Cardiff bay and making the use of English illegal.
How on earth does anyone with a fair mind justify that??
Even if you do a kilk/trampie trip - would you burn those who protested against that ruling to death inside a locked building? These aren’t missile strikes from miles away - these people looked on and laughed while innocent men , women and children were barbarically burned alive in the Odessa trades Union building (or shot dead or beaten to death while they flung themselves out of windows to escape the flames).
This is the true face of right wing fascism in Ukraine. The Ukraine YOU support. There have been no arrests let alone prosecutions for this hideous act of mass murder. A democracy? Don’t make me laugh. Think of these images the next time you want to wave your blue and yellow flags. |
Never mind the source you say, is that because it's clearly a pro Russian source? If this really happened then how come you can't find a decent source for it?
Tell me, how does the "the world" know full well this happened? Because a pro Russian source says so?
Seems extremely bad luck to me that a buidling should be burnt out on the 2nd of May and then again on the 6th.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27275383
Or maybe what you describe never happened and the pro Russian "source" has twisted a real event for propaganda purposes. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:59 - Jul 16 with 938 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:32 - Jul 16 by Boundy |
Wait for the "but" I'm sure one of the chuckle brothers will be along shortly to tell you the "truth" |
There will always be a 'but', and a 'true' source from an 'independent journalist'. These people don't actually believe the sh*t they come out with, they just have zero morals and find it a bit of fun to spread conspiracies, which in this case directly helps the cause of the invading war criminals. It's very sinister. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:40 - Jul 16 with 910 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:35 - Jul 16 by Catullus |
Never mind the source you say, is that because it's clearly a pro Russian source? If this really happened then how come you can't find a decent source for it?
Tell me, how does the "the world" know full well this happened? Because a pro Russian source says so?
Seems extremely bad luck to me that a buidling should be burnt out on the 2nd of May and then again on the 6th.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27275383
Or maybe what you describe never happened and the pro Russian "source" has twisted a real event for propaganda purposes. |
Mearsheimer mentioned the event in his 2015 lecture - in America for Americans. Unless you want to paint him as a kremlin sympathizer???
There was widespread violence against Russian speaking Ukrainians which was tolerated for 8 years but thank god the Russians hit back. I'm hopeful that when the Azov start singing in the custody of the dDPR the truth will come out about that atrocity and others like it.
Ukraines Ambassador (!) was lauding WW2 Nazi collaborator Stephan Bandwra as his hero on German television recently -
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/03/684946/Ukraine-envoy-Melnyk-Bandera-Azo
Do you agree with his support for a Nazi collaborator who killed countless Poles and Jews? This is the resurgent ideology now in Ukraine - and it must be stopped. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:52 - Jul 16 with 897 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:40 - Jul 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
Mearsheimer mentioned the event in his 2015 lecture - in America for Americans. Unless you want to paint him as a kremlin sympathizer???
There was widespread violence against Russian speaking Ukrainians which was tolerated for 8 years but thank god the Russians hit back. I'm hopeful that when the Azov start singing in the custody of the dDPR the truth will come out about that atrocity and others like it.
Ukraines Ambassador (!) was lauding WW2 Nazi collaborator Stephan Bandwra as his hero on German television recently -
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/03/684946/Ukraine-envoy-Melnyk-Bandera-Azo
Do you agree with his support for a Nazi collaborator who killed countless Poles and Jews? This is the resurgent ideology now in Ukraine - and it must be stopped. |
"but thank god the Russians hit back".
You sick f*ck. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:28 - Jul 16 with 886 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:05 - Jul 16 by deanscfc |
Sigh. Can't believe this site allows Kremlin propaganda, even given what us happening. But here we are.
A few facts as it's better for my health not to engage directly with the worst types of people.
1) To again repeat. Everything started with Russia. Everything. As already mentioned, the day Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 I was travelling in Europe and I saw the tears and fear of a Ukrainian girl in our dorm room. She sensed what was coming next and she was right. For a long time Russia has been trying to destabilise Ukraine. Anyone defending or trying to defend the invasion an independent country for imperial reasons (which they now openly boast about on their state TV) is a total scumbag. I can't be much more succinct.
2. Eva f*cking Bartlett. As stated already, the paid Kremlin propagandist who deleted all her tweets to me on twitter because I exposed all her lies about Mariupol not having been destroyed by Russia, and her claim that there was no mass death or mass graves there (what a f'n clown).
In relation to the violence in Odesa 2014 (after Russia had invaded Crimea), here is an account without the Russian propaganda (with video footage).
https://khpg.org/en/1407453894
Note that the Ukrainians were attacked first and were the first casualties, and that we can see on video them helping people out of the building with scaffolding (again exposing some of the Kremlin lies).
Bartlett has been exposed for lying a number of times. Just like other 'independent journalists' there, she is a Kremlin tool. A paid Kremlin tool. Phillips, Lancaster...that other guy Dougan (who yesterday had British POW Aiden Aslin stand to sing the Russian anthem - ffs - obviously free choice/no duress at all) are paid by the Russian forces. The ones they literally travel with in Z-marked trucks. Post their stuff as if it's not Kremlin propaganda and you're a f*cking idiot.
3. Where is this stupid f*cking idea coming from that Ukraine banned Russian? That was a rhetorical question because it's again more dumb Kremlin propaganda which is then spread by dimwits/sh*tty people online, who both have never been to Ukraine, don't know any Ukrainians, and simply want to be 'controversial' and therefore useful idiots for the Russian war criminals.
Here are the facts on 'Ukraine banning Russian':
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/08/sergey-lavrov/russian-has-not-
Note... now that you've been educated, don't just scroll on. See if you can be a man and admit that you were incorrect because you believed Russian propaganda.
It's just all so ridiculous. I know many people throughout Ukraine...quite a few from Kyiv and some from the East. All speak Russian with zero issues at all. Only for the first time ever, some people are now CHOOSING to stop speaking Russian because they now have no doubts about what Russia is about and what it has done.
4. Bucha. I'll keep this brief but I think anyone denying the events here should be banned from this site. There's so much evidence including video footage, photographic evidence, aerial inagery and witness reports that it's no different from holocaust denial. There is zero doubt and those trying to cast doubt know this, so I have total contempt for them.
This very recent report covers much of what Russia has done:
https://osce.usmission.gov/response-to-moscow-mechanism-report-on-ukraine/
I can't remember if it is covered in the report but we also know that many young women (as young as 14) were now pregnant as a result of sexual violence by groups of Russian soldiers.
5. Just as Russia started all this killing, Russia can stop it all by leaving the country it invaded. There is no equivalence, no 'two sides'. Everything can end when Russia f*cks off out of the country that it has zero right to be in. Anyone trying to create a false equivalence should be met with some serious hostility. The Kremlin and its propagandists are evil imperialists and they pretty much gave up on trying to hide that. It is all out there, on their own state TV, in their own words. Their goals always were to 'take back old land' and to 'destroy what it means to be Ukrainian'. Their telegram channels discuss killing civilians in order to win the war. But part of Russian war is disinformation...to attempt to exhaust their enemy, to get people to cast doubt on their war crimes so that idiots online will help them when sanctions and Western weapons hit. It is a country that doesn't even allow for calling its invasion a war, ffs. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 17:56]
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Thanks for taking the time to create such a comprehensive post, it’s genuinely appreciated by most of us. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:59 - Jul 16 with 864 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:28 - Jul 16 by majorraglan |
Thanks for taking the time to create such a comprehensive post, it’s genuinely appreciated by most of us. |
Thanks. I'm a bit blunt but hopefully it's of some use to people. I can see how some can be genuinely confused by some of the lies, but that's the purpose of them.
For me, as I've spent some time in Ukraine and got to know people there it hits a bit different to see others happily spread the Kremlin lies online (especially when it's obvious they're doing it deliberately). For the first few weeks of this war I was speaking to a few Ukrainian friends by text while they were petrified in the bomb shelters/under the sound of the air raid sirens. Russian speaking Ukrainians too would you believe. That language that the Kremlin want some to believe got banned in public. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 21:00]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:04 - Jul 16 with 852 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:52 - Jul 16 by deanscfc |
"but thank god the Russians hit back".
You sick f*ck. |
I notice you never condemn the violence committed by the Ukrainians.It's simple to you isn't it? Russia bad Ukrainians good. Americans and allies good, rest of the world bad.I was a lot happier and contented when i was that naive too. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:11 - Jul 16 with 845 views | raynor94 |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:04 - Jul 16 by controversial_jack |
I notice you never condemn the violence committed by the Ukrainians.It's simple to you isn't it? Russia bad Ukrainians good. Americans and allies good, rest of the world bad.I was a lot happier and contented when i was that naive too. |
Have a day off, surely you have something better to do |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:23 - Jul 16 with 838 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:04 - Jul 16 by controversial_jack |
I notice you never condemn the violence committed by the Ukrainians.It's simple to you isn't it? Russia bad Ukrainians good. Americans and allies good, rest of the world bad.I was a lot happier and contented when i was that naive too. |
No country in the world is 100% perfect with totally perfect individuals but I have absolute sympathy with the Ukrainian people who were brought violence when Russia invaded in 2014. I know directly from Ukrainians living in those parts what Russia did and how it conflicts with the vile BS put online by 'Independent Journalists' and spread by 'people' like you who also disgracefully even try to deny the most documented of war crimes. The 'for 8 years Ukraine did this' are the lazy (and usually sinister) words of those who spent their time eating up Kremlin propaganda. They neglect to mention that Russia invaded and used 'separatists' to try and destabilise Ukraine (in the same way that Russia does dirty work in many other parts), and they usually refer to numbers like 14,000 killed while also neglecting to mention that the vast majority of those deaths over 8 years, since Russia invaded, were military deaths on both sides, and that civilian deaths as a result of the fighting were actually very low in the years proceeding Russia's full invasion in 2022 which has undoubtedly caused mass killing and suffering. Whatever way you people try to lie and spin it, Russia's actions are absolutely indefensible. Mass murderers, pure and simple. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 21:42]
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