| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin 10:03 - May 31 with 1297 views | theloneranger |
""Southampton obtained confidential contract details about Russell Martin to secure a cut-price £1.25 million deal to recruit him last summer, court documents allege.
A High Court claim lodged by Swansea City, Martin’s former club, reveals the Premier League were asked to launch a “tapping up” investigation into the circumstances of the move last summer. “To the best of Swansea City’s knowledge”, the league’s “regulatory team is presently investigating the matter”, the papers filed last month say. Telegraph Sport understands, however, that England’s top tier is not pursuing the case.
Nevertheless, Swansea are pressing ahead with suing Martin, alleging he or representatives helped Southampton avoid paying a full £2 million release clause. In addition to speaking to Southampton without Swansea’s “written consent”, the Welsh club claim he passed on confidential terms which helped keep costs down.
The south coast club paid £1.25 million, the compensation fee applicable for a Championship club, rather than the £2 million fee they would have owed as a Premier League team.
Swansea allege that Southampton would have approached and effectively secured a deal with Martin prior to their relegation to the Championship last year. Detailing breach of contract allegations, the claim says “Mr Martin, and/or his agent acting on his behalf communicated with another football club that made an approach for his services whether directly or indirectly, without receiving permission in writing by the CEO” and “revealed to a third party confidential information namely the Release Sums and/or details of the Resigning Employees.”
The Premier League had first been alerted to complaints in June last year, according to the claim filed just weeks before Southampton secured their return to the top tier via the Championship play-offs.
Martin “did not act, whether through his own actions and/or those of an agent acting on his behalf, in the best interests of Swansea City”, the claim adds.
Southampton announced Martin as head coach a week after the Premier League’s AGM was held and the team’s top tier shares were transferred to Burnley, one of the newly promoted sides
“By reason of the factual foregoing, it is to be reasonably inferred that.... Without Swansea City’s knowledge or permission, Southampton FC approached Mr. Martin or persons acting on his behalf, such as his intermediary or agent, in order to induce him to leave his employment with Swansea City,” the claim says.
It first emerged last month that Swansea were set to file a High Court case suing Martin for “breach of contract” following his defection to then Championship rivals Southampton last summer.
Swansea warned last summer that they would pursue “full compensation” for Russell, who they said had more than a year remaining on his contract.
“Martin had a little over 12 months remaining on the three-year deal he signed upon arriving at the Swansea.com Stadium in August 2021,” the club said last summer.
“The club also stands firm in our belief that we are owed full compensation for Russell, and we will continue working diligently and strategically to protect the best interests of the club.”
Former Scotland defender Martin, 38, replaced Rubén Sellés as Southampton manager on a three-year contract.
Henrik Kraft, the Southampton chairman, said Martin had been the “stand-out candidate”, while the new manager added: “It’s a privilege to accept this opportunity at Southampton, a club with such a long and rich history”.
Swansea appointed Barnsley’s Michael Duff to replace Martin but he was sacked in December.
Both clubs and Martin’s representatives have been contacted for comment."
https://sports.yahoo.com/premier-league-asked-investigate-tapping-171940851.html [Post edited 31 May 10:05]
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:01 - May 31 with 1058 views | SullutaCreturned |
Ok, so reading that (and yes this is for all the Russell Martin fans) if this is true then "mr nice guy" Russell totally shafted us for his own personal interests. Now that doesn't surprise me and nor should it surprise anyone because it's the way of the world most of the time.
I suppose I could invoke Brendan Rodgers as the exception, he who did the opposite and acted in our clubs best interests but t's pointless.
This is why you shouldn't get attached to managers or players. As soon as there's a chance for personal gain they're off.
And no, this isn't about hating Martin either. This is just how it is and anybody who refuses to accept it should give their head a wobble. If Luke Williams does ok here and gets a better offer he'll be gone too. |  | | |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:43 - May 31 with 1044 views | onehunglow |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:01 - May 31 by SullutaCreturned |
Ok, so reading that (and yes this is for all the Russell Martin fans) if this is true then "mr nice guy" Russell totally shafted us for his own personal interests. Now that doesn't surprise me and nor should it surprise anyone because it's the way of the world most of the time.
I suppose I could invoke Brendan Rodgers as the exception, he who did the opposite and acted in our clubs best interests but t's pointless.
This is why you shouldn't get attached to managers or players. As soon as there's a chance for personal gain they're off.
And no, this isn't about hating Martin either. This is just how it is and anybody who refuses to accept it should give their head a wobble. If Luke Williams does ok here and gets a better offer he'll be gone too. |
“Martin haters”
God help us all | |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 00:17 - Jun 1 with 938 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:43 - May 31 by onehunglow |
“Martin haters”
God help us all |
If I was a builder or some sort of contractor and did work for someone I knew the non payment of contractual obligations would be first in my appraisal of the individual. That is just the way it is.
His maneuvering to avoid the compensation fee could cost people their jobs in Swansea. £1m lost o top of £17m losses means cuts. |  |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 10:37 - Jun 2 with 726 views | onehunglow |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 00:17 - Jun 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If I was a builder or some sort of contractor and did work for someone I knew the non payment of contractual obligations would be first in my appraisal of the individual. That is just the way it is.
His maneuvering to avoid the compensation fee could cost people their jobs in Swansea. £1m lost o top of £17m losses means cuts. |
Good posting | |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 15:47 - Jun 2 with 603 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Reading the Jack Army page fans do not understand that the compensation is due from the manager not the buying club. It is my understanding that conventionally the buying club volunteers to cover the costs.
It is the manger that wants to escape from HIS contract. In this case Southampton have only volunteered to pay a proportion of the agreement after perhaps Martin showed them his contract. | |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 16:45 - Jun 2 with 560 views | Whiterockin |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 15:47 - Jun 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Reading the Jack Army page fans do not understand that the compensation is due from the manager not the buying club. It is my understanding that conventionally the buying club volunteers to cover the costs.
It is the manger that wants to escape from HIS contract. In this case Southampton have only volunteered to pay a proportion of the agreement after perhaps Martin showed them his contract. |
So the compensation Notts County had for Williams was paid for by Williams himself and not our club, rubbish. The reason we have taken Martin to court is breech of contract by Martin, his agent or both. We are looking for £750K the difference between the £2M we should have had from Southampton as a Premier League club and the money we actually received. |  |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 17:16 - Jun 2 with 504 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 16:45 - Jun 2 by Whiterockin |
So the compensation Notts County had for Williams was paid for by Williams himself and not our club, rubbish. The reason we have taken Martin to court is breech of contract by Martin, his agent or both. We are looking for £750K the difference between the £2M we should have had from Southampton as a Premier League club and the money we actually received. |
Swansea went to Notts County to get Williams and asked permission. Notts County gave permission and offered Williams a deal which he accepted. Williams had a contract with Notts County and Swansea paid the get out clause for him. Southampton wanted Martin and seemingly agreed to employ him before the end of the season.
Possibly Martin told them to delay as to do the deal after the end of the season would be cheaper for Southampton. SFC then paid up MARTIN s contract with Swansea for the reduced amount after they delayed the signature a week or two.
If Martin was not involved he might be angry SFC did not pay the full amount as it is him being taken to court not Southampton. If is nothing to do with Southampton in that sense. They have paid only part of Martins bill according to Swansea. If Swansea win SFC will no doubt offer to pick up the tab. If SFC were mid table they would not perhaps.
It could be a matter of verbal agreements. Did Southampton agree a deal verbally or with an email to pay Martins release clause before the season ended? If they did then they must pay. [Post edited 2 Jun 17:29]
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:00 - Jun 2 with 441 views | QJumpingJack |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 17:16 - Jun 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea went to Notts County to get Williams and asked permission. Notts County gave permission and offered Williams a deal which he accepted. Williams had a contract with Notts County and Swansea paid the get out clause for him. Southampton wanted Martin and seemingly agreed to employ him before the end of the season.
Possibly Martin told them to delay as to do the deal after the end of the season would be cheaper for Southampton. SFC then paid up MARTIN s contract with Swansea for the reduced amount after they delayed the signature a week or two.
If Martin was not involved he might be angry SFC did not pay the full amount as it is him being taken to court not Southampton. If is nothing to do with Southampton in that sense. They have paid only part of Martins bill according to Swansea. If Swansea win SFC will no doubt offer to pick up the tab. If SFC were mid table they would not perhaps.
It could be a matter of verbal agreements. Did Southampton agree a deal verbally or with an email to pay Martins release clause before the season ended? If they did then they must pay. [Post edited 2 Jun 17:29]
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what was said when Kaplan met Martin in March 2023 hours before the Millwall away game?
Why didn't Martin travel to Washington as planned post season?
When was Martin consulted on when Paul Watson was joining the club?
So many unknowns........ | | | |
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| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:16 - Jun 2 with 414 views | pencoedjack |
The Russy fan boys won’t be happy |  | | |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 20:34 - Jun 2 with 345 views | KeithHaynes |
| P.L.was asked to investigate ‘tapping up’ claim over Russell Martin on 19:16 - Jun 2 by pencoedjack |
The Russy fan boys won’t be happy |
There’s none on here, must be a social media thing, those places are bad for you. |  |
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