| Senedd election 22:58 - Apr 4 with 20489 views | CwmafanJack |
How do you see it ending up?
Personally can see labour loosing quite a few votes to plaid not enough to make a significant difference though.
Can see the tories doing better than expected but abolish taking votes off them. Odds on labour plaid coalition.
Constituency changes can't see many.
Plaid to take llanelli and maybe Carmarthen west and south pembs with outside chance Caerphilly, Cardiff west
Tories to take Bridgend and maybe one or two up north east Wales.
Labour not to win any new seats
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| Senedd election on 17:51 - Apr 10 with 1175 views | Wingstandwood |
| Senedd election on 17:31 - Apr 10 by onehunglow |
Whilst having Chemo at Clatterbridge,my missus became quite chummy with a welsh lady from deepest welsh speaking north Wales on the next bed. Funnily enough ,she didnt mind speaking English which wouldnt have been the case if the said English doctor and nurses were in her home village renovating a house using local tradesmen and spending money on local products.
She was happy to be able to have her life saved by English doctors and nurses some of whom scousers too and on an English bed.
Some of the anti English filth on here need to understand how their myopia will kill many lives should Wales be dumb enough to go Indy. Thankfully,it wont as most Welsh people are smart enough.
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Independance will cause the break up of the U.K NHS as we know it! Seperately funded by each countries budget. I guess Welsh union leader Mark Serwotka truly appeciates English NHS provison because he had his heart transplant in England.
The end of service provison that you mentioned would be an absolute tradegy for the very patients that you talked about.
And what would happen if an independant nation happened to become a very high taxed one?...Yep! The best of the best would then move their expertise a few miles accross other borders! |  |
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| Senedd election on 18:18 - Apr 10 with 1145 views | onehunglow |
| Senedd election on 17:51 - Apr 10 by Wingstandwood |
Independance will cause the break up of the U.K NHS as we know it! Seperately funded by each countries budget. I guess Welsh union leader Mark Serwotka truly appeciates English NHS provison because he had his heart transplant in England.
The end of service provison that you mentioned would be an absolute tradegy for the very patients that you talked about.
And what would happen if an independant nation happened to become a very high taxed one?...Yep! The best of the best would then move their expertise a few miles accross other borders! |
I fear for those who would not be able to avoid to go private.
The Welsh NHS is no way as good as that in England.
North wales has no brain,heart or cancer centres nor specialist child trauma which is why kids get flown to Liverpool for scouse surgeons and specialists to look at. These people described by our fans as vile scum.Just saying like. | |
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| Senedd election on 18:47 - Apr 10 with 1119 views | Catullus |
| Senedd election on 18:18 - Apr 10 by onehunglow |
I fear for those who would not be able to avoid to go private.
The Welsh NHS is no way as good as that in England.
North wales has no brain,heart or cancer centres nor specialist child trauma which is why kids get flown to Liverpool for scouse surgeons and specialists to look at. These people described by our fans as vile scum.Just saying like. |
Yes, and as so many things get centralised in Cardiff very many people would have the added expense of travel AND maybe having to stay in hotels to visit loved ones.
The Senedd operates for the lucky minority in the South East and why do the indy supporters put so much faith in the massive changes we need actually happening if indy came true?
Johnlangy already said he doesn't believe manifesto's so why trust what is basically an ongoing manifesto pledge? | |
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| Senedd election on 18:56 - Apr 10 with 1116 views | felixstowe_jack |
I wonder if the turnout will be better than the very poor 45% last time or is everyone even more pissed of with thr senedd / assembly | |
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| Senedd election on 19:18 - Apr 10 with 1104 views | Catullus |
| Senedd election on 18:56 - Apr 10 by felixstowe_jack |
I wonder if the turnout will be better than the very poor 45% last time or is everyone even more pissed of with thr senedd / assembly |
That was a 3% improvement on the one before too. It's pretty consistent, less than half of Welsh people give enough of a monkey's to bother voting for the Senedd elections. | |
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| Senedd election on 19:21 - Apr 10 with 1100 views | jack247 |
| Senedd election on 18:56 - Apr 10 by felixstowe_jack |
I wonder if the turnout will be better than the very poor 45% last time or is everyone even more pissed of with thr senedd / assembly |
I think it will be higher for that very reason. | | | |
| Senedd election on 20:00 - Apr 10 with 1085 views | Flashberryjack |
| Senedd election on 19:21 - Apr 10 by jack247 |
I think it will be higher for that very reason. |
I think you could be right, most people I've spoken with, will really make an effort to vote this time, just to try to get rid of the clown man.
Their only dilemma is, Conservative or abolish. |  |
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| Senedd election on 20:01 - Apr 10 with 1085 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Senedd election on 19:21 - Apr 10 by jack247 |
I think it will be higher for that very reason. |
Depends if the school children turn up yo vote. | |
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| Senedd election on 20:35 - Apr 10 with 1073 views | Flashberryjack |
| Senedd election on 20:01 - Apr 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Depends if the school children turn up yo vote. |
That will depend on if their able to put down their x boxes for a half hour. | |
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| Senedd election on 20:43 - Apr 10 with 1067 views | Joe_bradshaw |
I don't think the turnout has exceeded 50% at any Welsh Senedd election ever which is pretty poor from the Welsh electorate. Then again, if absolutely no one inspires you to cast your vote... |  |
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| Senedd election on 21:34 - Apr 10 with 1039 views | Slugster664 |
| Senedd election on 20:00 - Apr 10 by Flashberryjack |
I think you could be right, most people I've spoken with, will really make an effort to vote this time, just to try to get rid of the clown man.
Their only dilemma is, Conservative or abolish. |
It has to be someone different please...20+ years and Labour have held us back all that time, shambles. |  |
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| Senedd election on 23:24 - Apr 10 with 1020 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Senedd election on 18:18 - Apr 10 by onehunglow |
I fear for those who would not be able to avoid to go private.
The Welsh NHS is no way as good as that in England.
North wales has no brain,heart or cancer centres nor specialist child trauma which is why kids get flown to Liverpool for scouse surgeons and specialists to look at. These people described by our fans as vile scum.Just saying like. |
Rubbish.
Our welsh NHS is outstanding.
You live in Liverpool. Hello ? |  |
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| Senedd election on 23:27 - Apr 10 with 1013 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Senedd election on 17:51 - Apr 10 by Wingstandwood |
Independance will cause the break up of the U.K NHS as we know it! Seperately funded by each countries budget. I guess Welsh union leader Mark Serwotka truly appeciates English NHS provison because he had his heart transplant in England.
The end of service provison that you mentioned would be an absolute tradegy for the very patients that you talked about.
And what would happen if an independant nation happened to become a very high taxed one?...Yep! The best of the best would then move their expertise a few miles accross other borders! |
The uk national debt is ... £2,000 billion.
Public sector net debt (excluding public sector banks, PSND ex) rose by £333.0 billion over the 11 months of the financial year-to-February 2021, taking it to £2,131.2 billion or around 97.5% of gross domestic product (GDP); maintaining a level not seen since the early 1960s
Cymru cannot afford not to go indy.
The uk is failing. | |
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| Senedd election on 23:40 - Apr 10 with 1002 views | Scotia |
| Senedd election on 23:27 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk national debt is ... £2,000 billion.
Public sector net debt (excluding public sector banks, PSND ex) rose by £333.0 billion over the 11 months of the financial year-to-February 2021, taking it to £2,131.2 billion or around 97.5% of gross domestic product (GDP); maintaining a level not seen since the early 1960s
Cymru cannot afford not to go indy.
The uk is failing. |
Based on population, that makes the Welsh share of the debt about £100 billion?
Perhaps we could pay it off in water? Or lamb? Or leeks? | | | |
| Senedd election on 23:46 - Apr 10 with 999 views | raynor94 |
| Senedd election on 23:40 - Apr 10 by Scotia |
Based on population, that makes the Welsh share of the debt about £100 billion?
Perhaps we could pay it off in water? Or lamb? Or leeks? |
Coracle making is going to be the next big thing. It'll soon hit a big hole in £100 Billion |  |
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| Senedd election on 05:54 - Apr 11 with 963 views | jack247 |
| Senedd election on 20:43 - Apr 10 by Joe_bradshaw |
I don't think the turnout has exceeded 50% at any Welsh Senedd election ever which is pretty poor from the Welsh electorate. Then again, if absolutely no one inspires you to cast your vote... |
Drakeford has this time, just not in the way he’d have liked. | | | |
| Senedd election on 06:50 - Apr 11 with 957 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Senedd election on 23:27 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk national debt is ... £2,000 billion.
Public sector net debt (excluding public sector banks, PSND ex) rose by £333.0 billion over the 11 months of the financial year-to-February 2021, taking it to £2,131.2 billion or around 97.5% of gross domestic product (GDP); maintaining a level not seen since the early 1960s
Cymru cannot afford not to go indy.
The uk is failing. |
Once again an independent UK free of the undemocratic EU has produced a world class vaccine programme. First doses 4 times that of the EU, Second doses twice that of the EU. While cases and deaths in the EU continue to rises they are falling in the UK.
Why would anyone want to join the corrupt anti trade cartel that the EU has become. | |
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| Senedd election on 16:40 - Apr 11 with 909 views | Catullus |
| Senedd election on 23:27 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk national debt is ... £2,000 billion.
Public sector net debt (excluding public sector banks, PSND ex) rose by £333.0 billion over the 11 months of the financial year-to-February 2021, taking it to £2,131.2 billion or around 97.5% of gross domestic product (GDP); maintaining a level not seen since the early 1960s
Cymru cannot afford not to go indy.
The uk is failing. |
I asked your deputy leader what would happen about our share of Uk debt, how long it would take us to meet the Copenahgen criteria, would an indy Wales mean a hard border with England and he didn't (or couldn't) answer.
I also asked how they could guarantee a referendum when we need Westminsters approval and again, no answer.
I emailed Plaid Cymru's generic email asking questions and got no answer at all.
I think I should try Labour and the tories to see what they say. I'm pretty confident I'll have a similar experience.
They are all BS merchants but at least we can judge labour by their 20 years in power. | |
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| Senedd election on 16:51 - Apr 11 with 901 views | pencoedjack |
| Senedd election on 16:40 - Apr 11 by Catullus |
I asked your deputy leader what would happen about our share of Uk debt, how long it would take us to meet the Copenahgen criteria, would an indy Wales mean a hard border with England and he didn't (or couldn't) answer.
I also asked how they could guarantee a referendum when we need Westminsters approval and again, no answer.
I emailed Plaid Cymru's generic email asking questions and got no answer at all.
I think I should try Labour and the tories to see what they say. I'm pretty confident I'll have a similar experience.
They are all BS merchants but at least we can judge labour by their 20 years in power. |
I keep saying it the vote should be
1 Do you want independence
2 Do you want to hand power back to Westminster
Most pro independence people don’t even want a vote on independence because they know what the outcome will be. |  | | |
| Senedd election on 17:19 - Apr 11 with 897 views | Catullus |
| Senedd election on 16:51 - Apr 11 by pencoedjack |
I keep saying it the vote should be
1 Do you want independence
2 Do you want to hand power back to Westminster
Most pro independence people don’t even want a vote on independence because they know what the outcome will be. |
One of my answers to Kilky was saying the same as you, have the debate, have the referendum and put all questions on it.
Do you want Indy, yes or no, if no do you want to keep or abolish the Senedd. If we keep the Senedd do you think it should have more powers. Put it in the law that if was a once in 25 years vote too so there's no arguments about having another vote every 2 years.
Give all of the electorate a genuine choice. Not surprisingly Kilky didn't want that, the indy vote yes but not the rest of it. | |
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| Senedd election on 18:14 - Apr 11 with 880 views | onehunglow |
| Senedd election on 16:40 - Apr 11 by Catullus |
I asked your deputy leader what would happen about our share of Uk debt, how long it would take us to meet the Copenahgen criteria, would an indy Wales mean a hard border with England and he didn't (or couldn't) answer.
I also asked how they could guarantee a referendum when we need Westminsters approval and again, no answer.
I emailed Plaid Cymru's generic email asking questions and got no answer at all.
I think I should try Labour and the tories to see what they say. I'm pretty confident I'll have a similar experience.
They are all BS merchants but at least we can judge labour by their 20 years in power. |
Hard border with England .FFS .
I could still sneak over on my bike | |
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| Senedd election on 17:45 - Apr 15 with 756 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Senedd election on 14:25 - Apr 5 by onehunglow |
We have houses 1.5 million plus being built not too far away and the buyers are south east and London.
A 1 m house here gets you 6 bedrooms ,poss a gym and or pool . Stabling also for horses.
In Londin,you re looking at a 4 bed detached in the better area.
Surreal q |
“ In Londin,you re looking at a 4 bed detached in the better area. ”
For a million quid?
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| Senedd election on 17:54 - Apr 15 with 744 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Senedd election on 23:27 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk national debt is ... £2,000 billion.
Public sector net debt (excluding public sector banks, PSND ex) rose by £333.0 billion over the 11 months of the financial year-to-February 2021, taking it to £2,131.2 billion or around 97.5% of gross domestic product (GDP); maintaining a level not seen since the early 1960s
Cymru cannot afford not to go indy.
The uk is failing. |
Wales would have incurred the debt though if independent.
The debt has massively increased because of furlough and other Covid schemes. Or are you saying Wales would not have provided support?
The reality btw is that the Covid debt is largely smokes and mirrors. Huge swathes have been ‘borrowed’ from the Bank of England and QE. The government owns the Bank of England so it’s borrowed from itself. It’s reported as though external debt for reasons of prudence and also as the BofE is independently run.
It’s not ‘real’ though.
In many ways I support Welsh independence - particularly if the U.K. breaks up. But I have to say that your relatively constant misinformation and lack of understanding of the genuine issues puts people off that cause not gets them to support it. Glossing over the real questions of finance, tax revenues, fiscal infrastructure is stupid. | | | |
| Senedd election on 17:58 - Apr 15 with 737 views | Catullus |
| Senedd election on 23:24 - Apr 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Rubbish.
Our welsh NHS is outstanding.
You live in Liverpool. Hello ? |
Outstanding? Waiting 5 times as long for a hip replacement as in England is outstanding?
My wife works for the NHS, I couldn't put her opinion here. Lions led by donkeys, the staff are excellent I'll agree, just badly let down by useless politicians.
% years ago I was told I need a new hip, apparently I due a review at the end of April, I've been on the urgent list for 2 years, a review feels a bit of a piss take. | |
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| Senedd election on 18:00 - Apr 15 with 736 views | trampie |
| Senedd election on 17:54 - Apr 15 by londonlisa2001 |
Wales would have incurred the debt though if independent.
The debt has massively increased because of furlough and other Covid schemes. Or are you saying Wales would not have provided support?
The reality btw is that the Covid debt is largely smokes and mirrors. Huge swathes have been ‘borrowed’ from the Bank of England and QE. The government owns the Bank of England so it’s borrowed from itself. It’s reported as though external debt for reasons of prudence and also as the BofE is independently run.
It’s not ‘real’ though.
In many ways I support Welsh independence - particularly if the U.K. breaks up. But I have to say that your relatively constant misinformation and lack of understanding of the genuine issues puts people off that cause not gets them to support it. Glossing over the real questions of finance, tax revenues, fiscal infrastructure is stupid. |
Lots of people are showing interest in Welsh independence, it's an interest that seems to be growing and is likely to intensify if Scotland and Northern Ireland go. |  |
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