| Leeds disorder 22:54 - Jul 18 with 9211 views | onehunglow |
New government ,a Labour govt and noe this
How will Yvette Cooper play this ?
Looks like ,for once,police not to blame,really
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| Leeds disorder on 22:03 - Jul 27 with 750 views | majorraglan |
| Leeds disorder on 20:37 - Jul 27 by Wingstandwood |
Here is a situation where brave police officers were subject to appalling violence, here you saw police officers in full ‘fight or flight’ adrenaline/psychological response, whilst without the advantage of stopping time in its tracks.
Anyone, whether it be a civvy or a cop would have adrenaline rushing at maximum levels in this circumstance, and all without the luxury of “pause and reflect” thinking time and a nice cup of tea to review it all.
Here we saw a police officer who was nothing other than reactive whilst showing adrenaline rush instinctively. Any tw@t that wants to have a go at the police on this one?
Freeze-frame-motion armchair critics living a paralell universe apart in a safe and secure world? Should be placed in a similar situation to suffer equal emotional distress/fear and to experience how they would personally react when themselves and own kith and kin suffer similar violence.
I guess they'll find out that it's not as easy as they think! "Walk in their shoes" hey! [Post edited 27 Jul 22:01]
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In the world in which we now live, the expectation would be that the police would always behave in a professional and restrained manner whatever they’re faced with or subjected to.
These 2 clowns viciously assaulted the police. You can see the punch the female officer took and the impact it had on her in the video. I for one hope the officers are able to satisfactorily explain their conduct away and that this gets binned once and for all.
Good on whoever leaked the video to the press, it’ll help give a more balanced perspective. [Post edited 27 Jul 22:09]
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| Leeds disorder on 22:13 - Jul 27 with 684 views | trampie |
| Leeds disorder on 22:03 - Jul 27 by majorraglan |
In the world in which we now live, the expectation would be that the police would always behave in a professional and restrained manner whatever they’re faced with or subjected to.
These 2 clowns viciously assaulted the police. You can see the punch the female officer took and the impact it had on her in the video. I for one hope the officers are able to satisfactorily explain their conduct away and that this gets binned once and for all.
Good on whoever leaked the video to the press, it’ll help give a more balanced perspective. [Post edited 27 Jul 22:09]
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The powers that have probably seen that or similar but it hasn't got the copper off the hook as he is apparently facing a criminal investigation.
It's one of those where he might have a better chance infront of a jury than a board. |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 22:14 - Jul 27 with 694 views | Boundy |
| Leeds disorder on 21:03 - Jul 27 by trampie |
The police/military types I thought were supposed to be trained, supposed to have discipline, the policeman needs retraining or he is not cut out for the job.
If he has a gun drawn the way you are talking he is pulling the trigger.
I don't think it looks good for him as regards a disciplinary if everything is above board, as regards any court case it depends on the barristers performance and the jury. |
Another arm chair judge and jury expert on what should or not happen | |
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| Leeds disorder on 22:17 - Jul 27 with 672 views | Whiterockin |
| Leeds disorder on 22:13 - Jul 27 by trampie |
The powers that have probably seen that or similar but it hasn't got the copper off the hook as he is apparently facing a criminal investigation.
It's one of those where he might have a better chance infront of a jury than a board. |
If the worst happens, I would gladly contribute to a crowd fund. It would far outway any loss of earnings and pension. |  | | |
| Leeds disorder on 22:18 - Jul 27 with 638 views | trampie |
| Leeds disorder on 22:17 - Jul 27 by Whiterockin |
If the worst happens, I would gladly contribute to a crowd fund. It would far outway any loss of earnings and pension. |
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| Leeds disorder on 22:20 - Jul 27 with 637 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Leeds disorder on 22:13 - Jul 27 by trampie |
The powers that have probably seen that or similar but it hasn't got the copper off the hook as he is apparently facing a criminal investigation.
It's one of those where he might have a better chance infront of a jury than a board. |
Hopefully he’ll be able to find a good barrister willing to defend him. |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 22:23 - Jul 27 with 592 views | trampie |
| Leeds disorder on 22:20 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Hopefully he’ll be able to find a good barrister willing to defend him. |
Best barrister wins, not right or wrong, the judicial system is just a game but as has been pointed out in the past is there a better system, possibly not. | |
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| Leeds disorder on 22:49 - Jul 27 with 574 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 22:20 - Jul 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Hopefully he’ll be able to find a good barrister willing to defend him. |
Good barristeroxynoron
Almost made me smile | |
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| Leeds disorder on 23:14 - Jul 27 with 541 views | majorraglan |
| Leeds disorder on 22:13 - Jul 27 by trampie |
The powers that have probably seen that or similar but it hasn't got the copper off the hook as he is apparently facing a criminal investigation.
It's one of those where he might have a better chance infront of a jury than a board. |
I wouldn’t expect the video to get “the copper off the hook” as you put it. The criminal investigation is just that, an investigation where the evidence will be gathered and the tested, he’ll stand or fall according to the evidence and the account he provides detailing his beliefs at the time the incident took place is likely to be a significant factor.
The police, unlike many in our society are at a distinct disadvantage in comparison to Joe Public. This officer is likely to face a criminal and disciplinary investigation, so in effect the IOPC or whatever they’re called will have 2 bites at the cherry. If the officer is told there’s no criminal case to answer or is found not guilty, they can still go for a disciplinary hearing - double jeopardy. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 00:08 - Jul 28 with 523 views | Robbie |
Man punching woman in an all out assault and breaking her nose , tough guy you sure are .
Wearing a uniform of the Emergency Services seems to be a soft touch and go to excuse to lash out at sadly , no doubt this coward of a man will have soliciters rubbing their hands awaiting the apologises from GMP and the compensation package which follows .
My client acted due to harrassment and police brutality etc. , such easy compensation .
Had been mentiond earlier the lead up to the attack had not been released on CCTV .
Whoever has well done to them too .
Good luck to the coppers fighting their corner in Court , hopefully mob rule does not win . | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 06:41 - Jul 28 with 449 views | Whiterockin |
| Leeds disorder on 00:08 - Jul 28 by Robbie |
Man punching woman in an all out assault and breaking her nose , tough guy you sure are .
Wearing a uniform of the Emergency Services seems to be a soft touch and go to excuse to lash out at sadly , no doubt this coward of a man will have soliciters rubbing their hands awaiting the apologises from GMP and the compensation package which follows .
My client acted due to harrassment and police brutality etc. , such easy compensation .
Had been mentiond earlier the lead up to the attack had not been released on CCTV .
Whoever has well done to them too .
Good luck to the coppers fighting their corner in Court , hopefully mob rule does not win . |
Scum must realise that the police are not a soft touch. The police were attacked and it turned into a street fight to defend themselves, possibly one went too far, but in the heat of the battle I can understand how it happened. Hopefully he will be moved to a desk job for 12 months then reintegrated slowly after further "training". | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 08:44 - Jul 28 with 402 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 06:41 - Jul 28 by Whiterockin |
Scum must realise that the police are not a soft touch. The police were attacked and it turned into a street fight to defend themselves, possibly one went too far, but in the heat of the battle I can understand how it happened. Hopefully he will be moved to a desk job for 12 months then reintegrated slowly after further "training". |
I’ve often thought I might get a knock on the door ,even now.
Public demand of police they get to grips with feral ,selfish ,manipulative scum
Or they should | |
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| Leeds disorder on 08:52 - Jul 28 with 389 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 06:41 - Jul 28 by Whiterockin |
Scum must realise that the police are not a soft touch. The police were attacked and it turned into a street fight to defend themselves, possibly one went too far, but in the heat of the battle I can understand how it happened. Hopefully he will be moved to a desk job for 12 months then reintegrated slowly after further "training". |
He should be sacked and face a criminal charge. Kicking someone and stamping on their head when they are on the floor and defenseless is an act of thuggery and cowardice regardless of what led up to it. They have a duty of care to the public and he failed in this | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 09:32 - Jul 28 with 374 views | raynor94 |
| Leeds disorder on 08:52 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
He should be sacked and face a criminal charge. Kicking someone and stamping on their head when they are on the floor and defenseless is an act of thuggery and cowardice regardless of what led up to it. They have a duty of care to the public and he failed in this |
Not condoning his actions, but after seeing the full video, I can understand how he lost it
Let's just hope these 2 brothers face a court of law |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 09:32 - Jul 28 with 372 views | Gwyn737 |
| Leeds disorder on 08:52 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
He should be sacked and face a criminal charge. Kicking someone and stamping on their head when they are on the floor and defenseless is an act of thuggery and cowardice regardless of what led up to it. They have a duty of care to the public and he failed in this |
An incredibly volatile situation, violence towards officers, public vulnerable, firearms risk.
Needed stopping as quickly as possible.
Job done. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 09:34 - Jul 28 with 373 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 09:32 - Jul 28 by Gwyn737 |
An incredibly volatile situation, violence towards officers, public vulnerable, firearms risk.
Needed stopping as quickly as possible.
Job done. |
Russian police wouldn’t have stood for that | |
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| Leeds disorder on 09:49 - Jul 28 with 352 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 09:32 - Jul 28 by Gwyn737 |
An incredibly volatile situation, violence towards officers, public vulnerable, firearms risk.
Needed stopping as quickly as possible.
Job done. |
No excuse for kicking someone in the head and then stamping on it. Incredibly dangerous, should never happen. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 09:55 - Jul 28 with 348 views | onehunglow |
Come to think of it,not many Pakistani women flying onto Moscow .
Why doesn’t Mother Russia seem to encourage them to come and share the great Russian state benefits . | |
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| Leeds disorder on 10:02 - Jul 28 with 342 views | Gwyn737 |
| Leeds disorder on 09:49 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
No excuse for kicking someone in the head and then stamping on it. Incredibly dangerous, should never happen. |
There are very, very few instances.
IMO this is one of them. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 10:50 - Jul 28 with 304 views | raynor94 |
Why don't they get the solicitor and the 2 brothers back on the TV now the full video has been seen
They were quick enough to condem the officer, no wonder the family have gone quiet | |
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| Leeds disorder on 11:27 - Jul 28 with 273 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 10:50 - Jul 28 by raynor94 |
Why don't they get the solicitor and the 2 brothers back on the TV now the full video has been seen
They were quick enough to condem the officer, no wonder the family have gone quiet |
Seriously,good to see such support for the Police from yiu and several others
Uparrows to all.
Hug a Copper today | |
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| Leeds disorder on 11:37 - Jul 28 with 249 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 10:02 - Jul 28 by Gwyn737 |
There are very, very few instances.
IMO this is one of them. |
Not at all the guy was on the floor, they could have tasered him. We shall have to see the outcome of the inquiry | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 11:40 - Jul 28 with 248 views | majorraglan |
| Leeds disorder on 08:52 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
He should be sacked and face a criminal charge. Kicking someone and stamping on their head when they are on the floor and defenseless is an act of thuggery and cowardice regardless of what led up to it. They have a duty of care to the public and he failed in this |
There should be an investigation and the officer and his colleagues allowed to have their say on events instead of being tried by CCTV and the media.
Kicking someone in the head and stamping on them are pretty serious acts, but if the officers can justify their action and show their conduct was reasonable then they should be allowed to return to duty. Common law, The Criminal Law Act 1967 and the Human Rights Act 1987 all allow for reasonable force to be used. Bear in mind these officers were armed and could have had their weapons taken off them by the assailants or crowd then the risk levels are escalated and the situation is a lot more difficult to control.
Good on the Manchester Evening News for publishing this video, it puts a bit more context around things. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 11:44 - Jul 28 with 245 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 11:40 - Jul 28 by majorraglan |
There should be an investigation and the officer and his colleagues allowed to have their say on events instead of being tried by CCTV and the media.
Kicking someone in the head and stamping on them are pretty serious acts, but if the officers can justify their action and show their conduct was reasonable then they should be allowed to return to duty. Common law, The Criminal Law Act 1967 and the Human Rights Act 1987 all allow for reasonable force to be used. Bear in mind these officers were armed and could have had their weapons taken off them by the assailants or crowd then the risk levels are escalated and the situation is a lot more difficult to control.
Good on the Manchester Evening News for publishing this video, it puts a bit more context around things. |
Down to what is “ reasonable”
Cue lawyers | |
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| Leeds disorder on 11:53 - Jul 28 with 237 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 11:44 - Jul 28 by onehunglow |
Down to what is “ reasonable”
Cue lawyers |
Someone has decide, can't let the police police themselves | | | |
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