| Trump v Zelensky 19:22 - Feb 28 with 6247 views | Drewster |
Absolutely bizarre scenes in the Oval Office today, staggering.
Trump and his VP clearly had a plan to ambush him, but to do it so publicly was bad form.
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| Trump v Zelensky on 19:25 - Feb 28 with 3360 views | qprxtc |
Zelensky should have decked the orange c unt and pissed on his bloated whale carcass. And shat in Vance’s gob and let him choke on it. |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 19:30 - Feb 28 with 3297 views | loftus77 |
I've never seen anything like it. Where will the world be by the next Presidential Election (Nov 2028...atm...)?
Will there be a world?... |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 19:54 - Feb 28 with 3123 views | Juzzie |
Trump and Vance were talking to him like he was a child and wanted him to grovel and beg to them.
Vance said “say ‘thank you’ say ‘thank you’”… this is a form of coercive control. I had flashbacks to when an old girlfriend threatened me in order to say “sorry” for something (I hadn’t done). I realised then it was all about control rather than whatever i was meant to apologise for, that didn’t matter. Didn’t last long and nor will this.
“You come to the Oval Office and disrespect us….” total ambush.
Trump has no interest in facts, just over exaggerates everything for impact. Keeps saying they’ve provided $350billion in aid when it’s not even half that. What they have provided is good, without doubt, but get it right at least.
Gets dates wrong, says in started (Crimea) in 2015 and had to be reminded, twice i think, it was 2014.
Whatever people’s view on the whole situation in Ukraine is, you cannot have world leaders behaving like this, its appalling. They are effectively trying to force him out. You then had Lindsay Graham wading in afterwards.
Trump is putting words into Zelenskys mouth by suggesting he doesn’t want peace. What’s really going on here is whatever form peace comes in, it has to be on Trumps terms and to Trumps benefit.
Thats why Lindsay Graham was saying afterwards that he “did not believe Zelensky should have brought up ceasefires or security concerns ahead of the deal.” Of course not, they want to sign a deal on their terms only before any of that is discussed so it becomes void by then.
Unless there’s some big turnaround somewhere, Zelenksky will have lost the US support and have to decide to continue without it or stand down and let someone else do it, but they’ll just end up being a Trump puppet.
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| Trump v Zelensky on 19:55 - Feb 28 with 3127 views | G_Ottershaw |
and there was me hoping that this subject would be kept off this forum so that we can concentrate on QPR related issues! | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:03 - Feb 28 with 3055 views | ted_hendrix |
Zelensky wasn't given the opportunity to speak, he was continually interrupted by two verbal bullies.
Putin's next move will be yet another dreadful drone attack with impunity.
And the rest of the World us included will sit there and say ''oh dear''
If there Is a god then let him bless the poor people of Ukraine. |  |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 20:14 - Feb 28 with 2964 views | kensalriser |
Bullies drunk on power behaving like bullies, bullying a man who has shown more personal courage and done more for his country than they could ever comprehend. Total scum. I can't wait for the day Trump dies. |  |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 20:24 - Feb 28 with 2912 views | colinallcars |
I watched it on my PC before the 6 o'clock news. I still am rubbing my eyes in disbelief. |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:33 - Feb 28 with 2843 views | numptydumpty |
I had been thinking a lot of Trumps rhetoric could be ignored as tactics to find the right resolution.
But this was actually frightening.
Behaviour of bullies and hard from an outside perspective that the American nation are in support of this man and all his entourage also.
Whilst in this country we are all getting our knickers in a twist about jokes that Gino D'campo has said ten years ago.
There are not a lot of grown ups in charge of the world today..... |  |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 20:37 - Feb 28 with 2828 views | colinallcars |
Starmer seemed to do well with Trump, but I gather he's given Trump The Isle of Wight. | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:39 - Feb 28 with 2803 views | GaryHaddock |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:37 - Feb 28 by colinallcars |
Starmer seemed to do well with Trump, but I gather he's given Trump The Isle of Wight. |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 20:40 - Feb 28 with 2795 views | GaryHaddock |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:39 - Feb 28 by GaryHaddock |
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Sorry Clive, no more from me. | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:41 - Feb 28 with 2773 views | JamesB1979 |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:03 - Feb 28 by ted_hendrix |
Zelensky wasn't given the opportunity to speak, he was continually interrupted by two verbal bullies.
Putin's next move will be yet another dreadful drone attack with impunity.
And the rest of the World us included will sit there and say ''oh dear''
If there Is a god then let him bless the poor people of Ukraine. |
First they came for Ukraine but I did not speak up because I wasn’t a Ukrainian…… | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:43 - Feb 28 with 2754 views | TomS |
Trump lets the Nobel Peace prize slip through his fingers in front of the world's media.... |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 20:46 - Feb 28 with 2697 views | TomS |
I'm relieved to see one world leader stand up to him and the leaders of the rest of western Europe subsequently expressing their continued support for the Ukrainian fight to keep their freedom. | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:12 - Feb 28 with 2469 views | rbee |
I would suggest that the public ambush was pre planned. Seemingly Trump doesn’t want to fund the Ukraine to the same extent that Biden did.
Be interesting to see how the European Leaders react to this, still unilaterally supporting the Ukraine without the support of the USA? |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:16 - Feb 28 with 2417 views | colinallcars |
I'm astonished, it's a shock to me as I spent years working at the American Embassy cigarette company. | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:31 - Feb 28 with 2298 views | Juzzie |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:16 - Feb 28 by colinallcars |
I'm astonished, it's a shock to me as I spent years working at the American Embassy cigarette company. |
Did they buy the printed filter paper from a company in Somerset (or thereabouts) called Imperial Tobacco? (again, or similar name… it was over 35 years ago!)
If so, I worked at the ink company that sold them the ink! It was astonishing how much ink was used each week and i tried to calculate how many cigarettes it produced and the number was staggering. Each and every week. [Post edited 28 Feb 21:31]
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| Trump v Zelensky on 21:42 - Feb 28 with 2197 views | derbyhoop |
Purin's next step will be over running Ukraine then, just like Hitler with Czechoslovakia in the late 30s, he'll turn his eyes to the Baltic states. All 3 are now in NATO?
Reflect on that and be scared. |  |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 21:44 - Feb 28 with 2178 views | Discodroids |
i remember me old man , east ham dave , catching me as a kid nicking his mary millington and four colour press Sandinavian cum shot porno magazines.
he told me once . he told me twice. i never nicked them again.
how many times do the borstal daddies on here have to tell you lot to swerve it. jesyus fkn christ. [Post edited 28 Feb 21:44]
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| Trump v Zelensky on 21:45 - Feb 28 with 2171 views | dmm |
And Charles the turd has invited Donald the orange over for a cup of tea later in the year. Oh yay. |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:49 - Feb 28 with 2094 views | flynnbo |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:31 - Feb 28 by Juzzie |
Did they buy the printed filter paper from a company in Somerset (or thereabouts) called Imperial Tobacco? (again, or similar name… it was over 35 years ago!)
If so, I worked at the ink company that sold them the ink! It was astonishing how much ink was used each week and i tried to calculate how many cigarettes it produced and the number was staggering. Each and every week. [Post edited 28 Feb 21:31]
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Wills own a lot of land from Chew Magna to Bristol airport. |  | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:54 - Feb 28 with 2049 views | sixnil |
What is the opposite of statesman?
How dare he treat Zelensky like that..
It was a trap..and absolutely disgusting from the US | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:58 - Feb 28 with 2004 views | itsbiga |
Trump had his orders from Putin to ensure Zelensky has to resign. This was a hit job to get that done for Vlad.
He'll fall out of a hotel window pretty soon. | |
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| Trump v Zelensky on 22:05 - Feb 28 with 1928 views | rbee |
| Trump v Zelensky on 21:42 - Feb 28 by derbyhoop |
Purin's next step will be over running Ukraine then, just like Hitler with Czechoslovakia in the late 30s, he'll turn his eyes to the Baltic states. All 3 are now in NATO?
Reflect on that and be scared. |
All guess work at the moment as we don't know how things will pan out.
It is however highly likely that the Ukraine will lose more territory to Russia and as you say if he gets away with that then Putin will start looking at other countries.
China could easily start the same with Taiwan and The Philippines.
Such a shame that what Mikhail Gorbachev started has been all but lost, Putin has put Russia back in to a cold war. Russia is a huge country with a large population and many natural resources. It really should be competing with China on the world manufacturing and economic stage rather than concern itself with expansion. | | | |
| Trump v Zelensky on 22:06 - Feb 28 with 1918 views | Match82 |
Probably the best way of looking at this is who is happiest with the outcome of today? It's not Trump or Zelensky, it's Putin. That's...not great. |  | | |
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