| The 2024 General Election 14:36 - Oct 10 with 16724 views | johnlangy |
If Labour do win the 2024 General Election they will find themselves in a very strange situation regarding what they are able to achieve, at least in the short term.
People always want big, bold statements regarding huge investments in infrastructure, house building, energy developments to relieve our dependancy on other countries oil/gas and so on.
But I was struck by something Peter Kyle said yesterday. Labour will I’m sure make some major policy announcements but he also said this. Paraphrasing, he said it is shameful but it would be a huge achievement to get to a place where people could get an appointment with their GP, to get their NHS treatment that they’ve been waiting on for X years or to get a dental appointment.
He could have also said it would be an amazing achievement if, when people are mugged or their house is burgled that the police would turn up to investigate.
It’s a dreadful situation for the country to be in that the basic pillars of a civilised society aren’t there any more.
I’ve mentioned health but then there’s education (how many thousands of teachers are needed to fill all the vacancies which means our children’s education is suffering ?). And policing (see above) – the service is 20,000 officers short. No wonder the streets are becoming lawless. Then there’s the Prison Service and the CPS. It is all an utter shambles.
As far as I can see it all of this is down to one thing and that’s the austerity that the Conservatives have imposed on the country since 2010. They cut back massively in all departments in order to ‘bring the countries enormous debt down’. They asked that people accept the need for this pain and go along with it and that there was no other way to achieve the goal.
And after the pain of all that austerity where are we now ? In 2010 the debt was less than £1 trillion. It is now £2.6 trillion.
If they have cut back so enormously on spending, which by extension means that they were also able to cut back on borrowing, could someone explain to me where all this debt has come from ? |  | | |  |
| The 2024 General Election on 08:54 - Oct 21 with 1027 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:16 - Oct 20 by raynor94 |
Sorry, never heard it at the Liberty |
And the evidence mounts, taking a leaf out of Drakefords book eh, Builthy  | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:52 - Oct 21 with 989 views | onehunglow |
Listening to what?
Have I missed summat? | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 12:27 - Oct 21 with 960 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 08:54 - Oct 21 by SullutaCreturned |
And the evidence mounts, taking a leaf out of Drakefords book eh, Builthy |
Are you calling me a liar? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 18:07 - Oct 21 with 909 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 12:27 - Oct 21 by builthjack |
Are you calling me a liar? |
Well did you hear the little ditty today, yes or no. |  | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:20 - Oct 21 with 867 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 18:07 - Oct 21 by Whiterockin |
Well did you hear the little ditty today, yes or no. |
Sheffield obviously hate the Tories far more than Leicester. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 21:38 - Oct 21 with 859 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 21:20 - Oct 21 by builthjack |
Sheffield obviously hate the Tories far more than Leicester. |
And Swansea. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 09:58 - Oct 22 with 779 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 12:27 - Oct 21 by builthjack |
Are you calling me a liar? |
Calling you a liar, is that an admission that Drakeford is a liar then?
Anyway, the fact is you are the only person on here saying these words have been sung, and sung by thousands of people many times. if that s true then how come nobody lese has heard it?
Far be it from me to call you a liar though, lets go with you're mistaken, there must be a song that sounds like the words you think you heard.
Unfortunately I didn't make it to the game, my son was ill, but nobody else reports hearing it.
This is the kind of nonsense that erupts when we bring politics into sport, maybe the best lesson is leave politics at home and when at the game just support the team. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:10 - Oct 22 with 775 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 09:58 - Oct 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Calling you a liar, is that an admission that Drakeford is a liar then?
Anyway, the fact is you are the only person on here saying these words have been sung, and sung by thousands of people many times. if that s true then how come nobody lese has heard it?
Far be it from me to call you a liar though, lets go with you're mistaken, there must be a song that sounds like the words you think you heard.
Unfortunately I didn't make it to the game, my son was ill, but nobody else reports hearing it.
This is the kind of nonsense that erupts when we bring politics into sport, maybe the best lesson is leave politics at home and when at the game just support the team. |
I can confirm 100% this was not sung at the stadium yesterday and I haven't heard it sung this season. Possibly the Welsh are not that bothered, after the mess Labour is making in Wales it's understandable. | | | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 10:16 - Oct 22 with 772 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:10 - Oct 22 by Whiterockin |
I can confirm 100% this was not sung at the stadium yesterday and I haven't heard it sung this season. Possibly the Welsh are not that bothered, after the mess Labour is making in Wales it's understandable. |
What was or wasn’t sung ? | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 10:18 - Oct 22 with 772 views | onehunglow |
When Labour are elected,will the insouciant,committee Tories find it within themselves to call them to account.
Not sure they would
Johnson has killed them | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 10:21 - Oct 22 with 770 views | Whiterockin |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:16 - Oct 22 by onehunglow |
What was or wasn’t sung ? |
A tories out chant. If I am to be polite Builthie was exaggerating. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:35 - Oct 22 with 764 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:21 - Oct 22 by Whiterockin |
A tories out chant. If I am to be polite Builthie was exaggerating. |
This is why we should keep politics out of sport. When you have rabid supporters of either party it'll only end in arguments. Football should be an escape from the everyday shite.
PS, I am NOT calling any individual on here rabid, it is a generalisation. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:06 - Oct 22 with 743 views | builthjack |
It was not sung yesterday. But was at previous games. Sheff Wed as an example. I would think they are mostly Labour up North.
If anyone wants to call me a liar I am more than happy to meet for a “chat” and ask you to say it to my face. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 11:15 - Oct 22 with 741 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:06 - Oct 22 by builthjack |
It was not sung yesterday. But was at previous games. Sheff Wed as an example. I would think they are mostly Labour up North.
If anyone wants to call me a liar I am more than happy to meet for a “chat” and ask you to say it to my face. |
Nobody's called you a liar but I am happy to say you are mistaken. I didn't hear it at the Wednesday game though I did hear the away end hurling abuse at their ownership.
I'm sure we'll meet one day and ifI've still never heard it being sung, I'll say so. Who knows, maybe it's me who is mistaken and maybe one day somebody else will hear it being sung. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:23 - Oct 22 with 730 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 09:58 - Oct 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Calling you a liar, is that an admission that Drakeford is a liar then?
Anyway, the fact is you are the only person on here saying these words have been sung, and sung by thousands of people many times. if that s true then how come nobody lese has heard it?
Far be it from me to call you a liar though, lets go with you're mistaken, there must be a song that sounds like the words you think you heard.
Unfortunately I didn't make it to the game, my son was ill, but nobody else reports hearing it.
This is the kind of nonsense that erupts when we bring politics into sport, maybe the best lesson is leave politics at home and when at the game just support the team. |
So you are calling me a liar. I do not lie. Never do.
As I said, if you want a chat, let me know. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 11:31 - Oct 22 with 718 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:23 - Oct 22 by builthjack |
So you are calling me a liar. I do not lie. Never do.
As I said, if you want a chat, let me know. |
No, I didn't call you a liar. But you took it that way, that's up to you. The fact remains you are the only person on here who has heard this being sung so unfortunately you are mistaken.
No doubt we'll meet one day. | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:36 - Oct 22 with 713 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:31 - Oct 22 by SullutaCreturned |
No, I didn't call you a liar. But you took it that way, that's up to you. The fact remains you are the only person on here who has heard this being sung so unfortunately you are mistaken.
No doubt we'll meet one day. |
About 3 or 4 of you.
Yes, we will meet. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 11:40 - Oct 22 with 712 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:36 - Oct 22 by builthjack |
About 3 or 4 of you.
Yes, we will meet. |
Yes but only ONE person claims to have heard it. It's Ok to be wrong, Builthy, don't let it get under your skin. This is a PUBLIC forum after all.
PS, I'll say it again, keep politics out f football. [Post edited 22 Oct 2023 11:44]
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| The 2024 General Election on 11:54 - Oct 22 with 700 views | builthjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:40 - Oct 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes but only ONE person claims to have heard it. It's Ok to be wrong, Builthy, don't let it get under your skin. This is a PUBLIC forum after all.
PS, I'll say it again, keep politics out f football. [Post edited 22 Oct 2023 11:44]
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If I am wrong about something I will always admit it. Always.
Anyone that knows me knows that.
If I am right about something I will always stand by it.Always. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The 2024 General Election on 12:02 - Oct 22 with 697 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Perhaps instead of “tories out” the crowd had noticed the keeper off his line and were shouting “score he’s out!”? |  |
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| The 2024 General Election on 12:06 - Oct 22 with 689 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 2024 General Election on 11:54 - Oct 22 by builthjack |
If I am wrong about something I will always admit it. Always.
Anyone that knows me knows that.
If I am right about something I will always stand by it.Always. |
And it's not possible you are mistaken? Do you never make mistakes? Just frget it Builthy, is it really worht the effort?
When we meet I'll buy you a beer and you can call me a tory if you like, I wont take offence. Call me lots of other stuff too if you want  | | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 12:41 - Oct 22 with 674 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election on 10:21 - Oct 22 by Whiterockin |
A tories out chant. If I am to be polite Builthie was exaggerating. |
It’s as bad as Celtic then and their filthy political agenda
WTF have the Tories to do with football.
It’s a vote winner for Labour though,being the party of the “ working man” | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 12:53 - Oct 22 with 658 views | pencoedjack |
| The 2024 General Election on 12:41 - Oct 22 by onehunglow |
It’s as bad as Celtic then and their filthy political agenda
WTF have the Tories to do with football.
It’s a vote winner for Labour though,being the party of the “ working man” |
It is laughable |  | | |
| The 2024 General Election on 13:02 - Oct 22 with 655 views | onehunglow |
| The 2024 General Election on 12:53 - Oct 22 by pencoedjack |
It is laughable |
And at Anfield yesterday….God Save Gaza .
And they all deny anti semitism | |
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| The 2024 General Election on 13:55 - Oct 22 with 636 views | Togg |
| The 2024 General Election on 13:02 - Oct 22 by onehunglow |
And at Anfield yesterday….God Save Gaza .
And they all deny anti semitism |
Odd that cause he never played for them...
I'll get me coat. | | | |
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