| Impact of Beale leaving. 20:19 - Dec 29 with 2944 views | Beckenhamhoop |
Critchley hasn’t covered himself in glory but Beales departure may have far reaching repercussions
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:27 - Dec 29 with 2815 views | distortR |
interesting points by the fella, but I'll give the new bloke 6 games before I think about evaluating him. It goes back to the analytical ones points about what Critchley has inherited, in terms of quality, confidence and disharmony. He's got his work cut out, for sure. | | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:31 - Dec 29 with 2719 views | BrianMcCarthy |
"We now suspect one or two already have their bags packed, and this won’t be…
…creating a harmonious atmosphere, either on the pitch, at the training ground or indeed amongst the fanbase."
"Suspect"?
It is a very weak word, and not very analytical.
Not sure about this thread at all. |  |
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:32 - Dec 29 with 2714 views | traininvain |
I said at the time that Beale leaving would completely derail our season but it would be remiss not to point out that Luton also recently lost their manager.
If certain players don’t want to be at the club then they need to be moved on asap if possible. And someone at the club needs to explain to Critchley very quickly that he needs to get Chair and Willock on the pitch together if he wants to win games. That’s the best advice anyone could give him at this stage. |  | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:35 - Dec 29 with 2645 views | vanrrrr |
I am the least ITK person on here probably. Are there some players who are rumoured to be off to Glasgow? Any ideas who?
Agree with a lot of the stuff on that twitter thread…. Depressing | | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:40 - Dec 29 with 2549 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:31 - Dec 29 by BrianMcCarthy |
"We now suspect one or two already have their bags packed, and this won’t be…
…creating a harmonious atmosphere, either on the pitch, at the training ground or indeed amongst the fanbase."
"Suspect"?
It is a very weak word, and not very analytical.
Not sure about this thread at all. |
If this, or any other football forum only discussed facts and evidence then there wouldn’t be much on them. [Post edited 29 Dec 2022 20:41]
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:42 - Dec 29 with 2518 views | distortR |
A long term problem, that needs sorting, is the failure of our U21's to produce players good enough to put pressure on first teamers. Indeed, this seems to have been a major factor in Warb's acrimonious fall out, and, I believe, an issue for Beale.
I'm not a critic of Ferdinand, but i think maybe he is too close to people involved in the development side of things and it maybe needs an external review. For sure, better facilities will help, but I don't think they will solve the problem on their own. | | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:48 - Dec 29 with 2434 views | numptydumpty |
Well yes.
But more likely impact of getting rid of Warburton
I did say at time was in total disagreement with decision
It's proved correct
A johnnie come lightly appointment followed by disillusioned staff and players.
Yes normally no real movements in January transfer Window
But we not scoring and two strikers in Armstrong and Bonne not on bench.
Million crosses to no one.
Dykes did miss two chances but most game he either flicked on to no one or the crosses hit the front man.
Irogbenaum and Laird look on their way.
Roberts header against bar but looks unfit.
Chair was promising but apparently picked up injury. Willock seems to have given up.
Balogun and Clarke Salter disappeared and Dickie and Dunne made to look like plodders.
Adomah Shodipo Dozell and Thomas look like league one players at best.
Amos not brought on and Johansen seems permanently injured.
Apart from all that, thought Richards showed promise...
Was one of worst QPR performances for many a year. On a par with six nil home defeat by Newcastle but this was against the mighty Luton !!!!
Am I allowed to switch allegiance and start attending the Emirates or the Etihad !!!! |  |
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:48 - Dec 29 with 2420 views | Damo1962 |
Too convenient to blame Beale for the short-comings of a lot of this squad - with the caveat that a few of them are his players. It has been apparent for quite a while now, that we have signed a lot of players who are mentally weak. Add in some are playing in a league they have no right to be in...and this is the result. I think without a few new additions, we could drop. I will personally drive the Tattoo man back to Bonny Scotland. | | | |
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:51 - Dec 29 with 2393 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 20:40 - Dec 29 by Beckenhamhoop |
If this, or any other football forum only discussed facts and evidence then there wouldn’t be much on them. [Post edited 29 Dec 2022 20:41]
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100% agree, and wasn't aiming a swipe at your OP. Sorry if it seemed that way.
It's just that it is my opinion that the Twitter thread is also just opinion, and that "We now suspect one or two already have their bags packed..." could be interpreted by some as ITK fact, which is dangerous. | |
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 22:06 - Dec 29 with 1998 views | DejR_vu |
Should have kept Warburton or, at the very least, given the job to Eustace.
When Teflon Les was appointed DoF, we were in the Premier League, Luton were in League 2 having been promoted from The Conference the year before. Eight years. This should be a well oiled machine by now where, if a manager/coach leaves, he should be replaced seamlessly. Losing their manager doesn’t seem to have distracted Luton. No doubt there will be the usual list of excuses though. [Post edited 29 Dec 2022 22:20]
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| Impact of Beale leaving. on 22:15 - Dec 29 with 1913 views | Malintabuk |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 22:06 - Dec 29 by DejR_vu |
Should have kept Warburton or, at the very least, given the job to Eustace.
When Teflon Les was appointed DoF, we were in the Premier League, Luton were in League 2 having been promoted from The Conference the year before. Eight years. This should be a well oiled machine by now where, if a manager/coach leaves, he should be replaced seamlessly. Losing their manager doesn’t seem to have distracted Luton. No doubt there will be the usual list of excuses though. [Post edited 29 Dec 2022 22:20]
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I have never come on here and had a go at the club's management but think your post is spot on
I said on another thread we are a club with direction for me. Under numerous managers we go on these horrendous runs where we loose 5 or 6 games on a spin and that is not acceptable. | | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 22:36 - Dec 29 with 1804 views | baz_qpr |
We were on a terrible losing run under Warburton and we, were again on a terrible run under Beale. FFP hurts us probably more than any club as we have owners who have the money to put in but can't because of the rules and because our costs are so high and income so low.
Luton were in decent form when they lost their manager, you might argue Clives sliding doors moment and they may have got the better one, and he's had a little more time with the players and they are carrying on with the same formation and way of playing
Having said that, the selection today was one of someone who really does not know this team yet. Shodipo I suspect is getting this opportunity because when Critchley took Blackpool up he was doing well at Oxford that season and maybe he has seen something there Tyler Roberts (he's an international don't you know) I think is getting picked on reputation (and probably he's salary) Both were a problem today in this formation.
I think its going to get worse before it gets better, but I also think its true to say that both Beale's and Warburtons collapses happened when both Johansson and Willock had or were carrying injuries.
I think Critchley got it badly wrong today, and we look a disorganised mess, but we have to give the guy a few months to get his ideas across and learn about the players |  | | |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 00:36 - Dec 30 with 1595 views | VancouverHoop |
| Impact of Beale leaving. on 22:36 - Dec 29 by baz_qpr |
We were on a terrible losing run under Warburton and we, were again on a terrible run under Beale. FFP hurts us probably more than any club as we have owners who have the money to put in but can't because of the rules and because our costs are so high and income so low.
Luton were in decent form when they lost their manager, you might argue Clives sliding doors moment and they may have got the better one, and he's had a little more time with the players and they are carrying on with the same formation and way of playing
Having said that, the selection today was one of someone who really does not know this team yet. Shodipo I suspect is getting this opportunity because when Critchley took Blackpool up he was doing well at Oxford that season and maybe he has seen something there Tyler Roberts (he's an international don't you know) I think is getting picked on reputation (and probably he's salary) Both were a problem today in this formation.
I think its going to get worse before it gets better, but I also think its true to say that both Beale's and Warburtons collapses happened when both Johansson and Willock had or were carrying injuries.
I think Critchley got it badly wrong today, and we look a disorganised mess, but we have to give the guy a few months to get his ideas across and learn about the players |
I agree. Critchley's looking at what he's got squad-wise and what he hasn't (mostly the latter if the past couple of matches are anything to go by!) This isn't the time to hold his feet to the fire. Excluding those injured, most of the players who are within spitting distance of the first team are getting at least some game time (Armstrong and Kakay excepted.)
After Fleetwood the future should be a clearer as to the type of team, and player, he's going to rely on. | | | |
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